Proposal Ring - Part 3

[mardybum]

Can you tell the diff btw E and F? Most important is the visual aspects of it, not the certificate. Try to max the carat weight as much as you can as that’s most worth it imho.

Oh and just get their VS2 clarity grade as clarity really cannot see. If they don’t have the diamond you want on hand, you can custom order. Just need to wait around 3 months.

Yes I agree w this. Went JP and was shown a E & G diamond. I couldn’t tell the difference and I got it wrong twice hahaha my bf was so happy cos he don’t have to spend more on the color but carat.

 

[arsonn]

Hi all, been lurking around this thread.
Finally went down to JP.
Can't decide between these.

Octagon Cuts
0.647 D VVS1 $7,100
0.623 D VVS2 $6,700
0.608 D VVS1 $6,600
0.602 D VS2 $6,150

Any comments? Thanks.

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[purebee]

Is it true Noderite is selling C&C? They are selling for quite expensive for moissanite 14k rings, I saw their price list online:

5mm mossianite ring: SGD$1800
6mm mossianite ring: SGD$2000
7mm mossianite ring: SGD$2200
8mm mossianite ring: SGD$2600

I thought maybe they were selling a really good moissanite to be charging multiple thousands for them..

Moiss Jewelry quoted me $450 for 5.5mm C&C Forever One. For Forever Brilliant, they are selling 0.8ct for $190.

Their settings are not the cheapest but you can buy the loose stone and bring to Efficient Jewellery to set it. I enquired in Carousell and they quoted me $300+ for a plain 18k ring, if there's pave diamonds, it's $700, and their pave diamonds are quite good, G colour VS clarity one. The cut I don't know as I haven't visited them yet.

Noderite seems to be marking up quite a bit...

Hi there, Noderite doesn't stock Charles & Colvard. I mentioned them because they were the more well known moissanite company, I'll edit my previous post to be more clear. They had the original moissanite patent and it expired, now other companies have come in to develop better moissanite with better colour, clarity and slight increase in hardness.

The moissanite rough that C&C uses is the first generation 6H (SiC) which has a yellow/green cast to it that makes the gem look poor quality. Noderite uses the much improved second generation 4H (SiC) rough that is totally white/colourless. Also Forever One cut is inferior as its designed to match a diamond's optical performance not moissanite. I saw it in person and in reviews, feel that Forever One has a dark, mushy splintery center. Also, reading through reviews they seem quite inconsistent with their quality. That's why I went with Noderite as the moissanite is DE white.

You can top up money for 18k gold but 14k is more durable for everyday wear as gold is soft. I just had a look at the jeweller you mentioned but feel that Noderite's ring setting is thicker (3mm) and workmanship looks solid and sturdy, the prongs are set perfectly. Most jewellers we saw the ring thickness is thin really or at worst not symmetrical. It is recommended to have 2mm width at least to withstand everyday use because the gold will wear down and become thinner with time. There's also a degree of customisation even with the classic ring at Noderite, it's made-to-order and you're able to choose the setting you want, we went with a basket setting (low-set for practical purposes) but they offer high-settings like tiffany, cathedral. Also can choose smooth/knife-edged, tapered etc. They will discuss/advise you according to your lifestyle needs, provide 2D draft then 3D CAD model to confirm before they make it. I feel that you get what you pay for when it comes to gold weight, workmanship, level of customisation and service. Also a note about the pave diamonds, G quality is more on the yellow side, if you have a DE colour moissanite set against G pave diamonds you'll see the contrast and obvious difference in colour.

Here's pics for your reference, you can see the thickness of the ring width, basket and prongs

Official pic from their site:

 

[wint3rnights]

Is it possible to negotiate the price at stores like Canary? Feel a bit paiseh, but when I look around, the individual price of the stones I am looking at don't seem to be that high and the sapphire that I am looking at got no cert some more, not sure if its a normal thing

Depending on what you buy from Canary, you can bargain. You can request for them to show you those sapphires with certs. Cos not all precious gems are graded.

 

[wint3rnights]

Hi, can help to check if this is worth 8k-9k from Jannpaul?

Diamond type: Triple Excellent
0.91 E VS1
GIA 2195195153

Looks like a 60/60 stone to me. Did u compare with non 60/60 stones and confirm u prefer the look of a 60/60 stone? You may read up below on 60/60 diamonds.

https://www.whiteflash.com/about-diamonds/diamond-education/60-60-diamonds-1503.htm

 

[rashoumon]

Depending on what you buy from Canary, you can bargain. You can request for them to show you those sapphires with certs. Cos not all precious gems are graded.

That is interesting, would have thought that all the gems will be graded. Thanks!

 

[throwawaygrad]

Hi there, Noderite doesn't stock Charles & Colvard. I mentioned them because they were the more well known moissanite company, I'll edit my previous post to be more clear. They had the original moissanite patent and it expired, now other companies have come in to develop better moissanite with better colour, clarity and slight increase in hardness.

The moissanite rough that C&C uses is the first generation 6H (SiC) which has a yellow/green cast to it that makes the gem look poor quality. Noderite uses the much improved second generation 4H (SiC) rough that is totally white/colourless. Also Forever One cut is inferior as its designed to match a diamond's optical performance not moissanite. I saw it in person and in reviews, feel that Forever One has a dark, mushy splintery center. Also, reading through reviews they seem quite inconsistent with their quality. That's why I went with Noderite as the moissanite is DE white.

You can top up money for 18k gold but 14k is more durable for everyday wear as gold is soft. I just had a look at the jeweller you mentioned but feel that Noderite's ring setting is thicker (3mm) and workmanship looks solid and sturdy, the prongs are set perfectly. Most jewellers we saw the ring thickness is thin really or at worst not symmetrical. It is recommended to have 2mm width at least to withstand everyday use because the gold will wear down and become thinner with time. There's also a degree of customisation even with the classic ring at Noderite, it's made-to-order and you're able to choose the setting you want, we went with a basket setting (low-set for practical purposes) but they offer high-settings like tiffany, cathedral. Also can choose smooth/knife-edged, tapered etc. They will discuss/advise you according to your lifestyle needs, provide 2D draft then 3D CAD model to confirm before they make it. I feel that you get what you pay for when it comes to gold weight, workmanship, level of customisation and service. Also a note about the pave diamonds, G quality is more on the yellow side, if you have a DE colour moissanite set against G pave diamonds you'll see the contrast and obvious difference in colour.

Here's pics for your reference, you can see the thickness of the ring width, basket and prongs

Official pic from their site:

Thanks!! Now I see why there's a price difference

 

[megalixer]

Hi all, long time lurker here.

Finally went down to JP for ring-choosing after mugging these forums and a exploring a few options with my SO.

I had a budget of about 8k, and initially wanted to get the largest super ideal possible around that price range.

Unfortunately JP are low on stock, and only had a 0.74 F VS1 for $7900 available.

So asked to see their Solasfera, and was quoted the following:
0.73 G VS2 $7900
0.768 G VS2 $8300

I ended up choosing the 0.73 since it seemed more "worth it" next to the 0.74 - more bling for the same size haha.

But looking at the 0.768, it seems like a good deal too - just $400 for extra 0.04 carat, especially since prices seem to be exponential to size. I personally can't say I saw an obvious difference, but my SO tends to be more perceptive about these things, haha.

Only issue is that it would be about 1k over my budget with the setting. But not bank breaking or anything.

What do you guys think? Should I pay $400 more to "upgrade" to the 0.768? Or stick with the 0.73?

Thanks much!

 

[throwawaygrad]

Hi all, long time lurker here.

Finally went down to JP for ring-choosing after mugging these forums and a exploring a few options with my SO.

I had a budget of about 8k, and initially wanted to get the largest super ideal possible around that price range.

Unfortunately JP are low on stock, and only had a 0.74 F VS1 for $7900 available.

So asked to see their Solasfera, and was quoted the following:
0.73 G VS2 $7900
0.768 G VS2 $8300

I ended up choosing the 0.73 since it seemed more "worth it" next to the 0.74 - more bling for the same size haha.

But looking at the 0.768, it seems like a good deal too - just $400 for extra 0.04 carat, especially since prices seem to be exponential to size. I personally can't say I saw an obvious difference, but my SO tends to be more perceptive about these things, haha.

Only issue is that it would be about 1k over my budget with the setting. But not bank breaking or anything.

What do you guys think? Should I pay $400 more to "upgrade" to the 0.768? Or stick with the 0.73?

Thanks much!

I've seen both but I prefer the SI over Solasfera... SI retains the traditional facet-y look. If your SO is a traditional person, she might like the SI more. Then for your budget just max the carat will do, if you have time just wait for a G colour VS2 is the usual advice here

 

[Kkeell]

Hi all, long time lurker here.

Finally went down to JP for ring-choosing after mugging these forums and a exploring a few options with my SO.

I had a budget of about 8k, and initially wanted to get the largest super ideal possible around that price range.

Unfortunately JP are low on stock, and only had a 0.74 F VS1 for $7900 available.

So asked to see their Solasfera, and was quoted the following:
0.73 G VS2 $7900
0.768 G VS2 $8300

I ended up choosing the 0.73 since it seemed more "worth it" next to the 0.74 - more bling for the same size haha.

But looking at the 0.768, it seems like a good deal too - just $400 for extra 0.04 carat, especially since prices seem to be exponential to size. I personally can't say I saw an obvious difference, but my SO tends to be more perceptive about these things, haha.

Only issue is that it would be about 1k over my budget with the setting. But not bank breaking or anything.

What do you guys think? Should I pay $400 more to "upgrade" to the 0.768? Or stick with the 0.73?

Thanks much!

I Thnk visually in size there will not b any diff and in clr from
The naked eyes.
However, the solasfera will def sparkle more.
But I feel that all jp diamonds are ordy v bling.

Since u mentioned you SO is more particular about the numbers and Anth few hundred is not bank breaking I Thnk u cn consider that 0.768 so no regrets. Or at least if she ask u u chose the biggest amount the 3.
But I Thnk not much diff even if u took 0.74 but 0.76 def sounds better.
Unless we r comparing 0.7 vs 0.78 then I Thnk the diff abit more obvious.

 

[evelynleebali]

need help!! i cant decide if i shld get the super ideal cut or solasfera too.. i already placed a deposit of the super ideal cut 0.6 e vs2. they showed me the solasfera and i can really see what you guys mean by the many many sparkles

the solasfera is a 0.61 g vs1. its 2 color lower and 1 clarity higher, and will need to top up about $700 more. if i want, i can still swap my deposit to the solasfera but need to make a decision by this week.

when i compared both the diamonds, the super ideal cut is nice too but the solasfera has its own beauty. they showed me outside the shop under the sun and the solasfera was like shooting sparkles everywhere the super ideal cut was very sparkly too.. but just different.. dunno how to describe. i'm like 80% sold on the solasfera already... just need that final push.. hehe

im thinking of setting it on a plain ring designs with these lace patterns.

but thinking of changing those lace designs to rose gold instead. any suggestions?

 

[megalixer]

I Thnk visually in size there will not b any diff and in clr from
The naked eyes.
However, the solasfera will def sparkle more.
But I feel that all jp diamonds are ordy v bling.

Since u mentioned you SO is more particular about the numbers and Anth few hundred is not bank breaking I Thnk u cn consider that 0.768 so no regrets. Or at least if she ask u u chose the biggest amount the 3.
But I Thnk not much diff even if u took 0.74 but 0.76 def sounds better.
Unless we r comparing 0.7 vs 0.78 then I Thnk the diff abit more obvious.

Thanks bro. In the end I went with the 0.77 for the reasons you stated. Since going for >0.7 already, might as well go all the way to get more "value" in this price range.

My initial plan was to go for an SIC, but unfortunately in the 0.7 - 1.0 range they only had the 0.74 on hand.

But seeing how bling the Solasfera is, I feel happy with my choice.

 

[blurpandasg2014]

need help!! i cant decide if i shld get the super ideal cut or solasfera too.. i already placed a deposit of the super ideal cut 0.6 e vs2. they showed me the solasfera and i can really see what you guys mean by the many many sparkles

the solasfera is a 0.61 g vs1. its 2 color lower and 1 clarity higher, and will need to top up about $700 more. if i want, i can still swap my deposit to the solasfera but need to make a decision by this week.

when i compared both the diamonds, the super ideal cut is nice too but the solasfera has its own beauty. they showed me outside the shop under the sun and the solasfera was like shooting sparkles everywhere the super ideal cut was very sparkly too.. but just different.. dunno how to describe. i'm like 80% sold on the solasfera already... just need that final push.. hehe

im thinking of setting it on a plain ring designs with these lace patterns.

but thinking of changing those lace designs to rose gold instead. any suggestions?

Which is the solesfera in the vid

 

[thltetek]

Which is the solesfera in the vid

Right side is Solasfera, with the higher scintillation, as well as the more yet slimmer cut facets on the diamond.

 

[arsonn]

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I chose 0.602 D VS2, do you guys think that is it worth it to top up $450 for 0.608 D VVS1?

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[thltetek]

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I chose 0.602 D VS2, do you guys think that is it worth it to top up $450 for 0.608 D VVS1?

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I'd top up $450 for bigger carat instead. Else use the $450 for ring setting would be a better choice.

 

[arsonn]

Hmmm.. 0.006 difference?

Have others also.
Which one is better deal?

0.647 D VVS1 $7,100
0.623 D VVS2 $6,700
0.608 D VVS1 $6,600
0.602 D VS2 $6,150

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[evelynleebali]

Which is the solesfera in the vid

solasfera is the right side one. i got other videos of it too.. haha. i uploaded them. i got more videos but the rest is abit blur.

super ideal cut good point is the bigger flashes and sparks. solasfera is got many many flashes and sparks but will be smaller. as a whole when i see the diamond from a far distance, i find the solasfera overall can look more sparkly in a way

 

[smileedee12]

Hmmm.. 0.006 difference?

Have others also.
Which one is better deal?

0.647 D VVS1 $7,100
0.623 D VVS2 $6,700
0.608 D VVS1 $6,600
0.602 D VS2 $6,150

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I would go for the last one. You're already paying a premium for D colour so I wouldn't want to pay another premium for the clarity. The price difference is not really due to CT weight of 0.006 but more of the clarity. VVS1 is 3 levels higher than VS2. For VS2, better to check on the durability issues.

I would get the 0.623 over the 0.608. Unless u really want to pay a premium for the Cs then the top one most worth hahaha

Where did u get these quotes from? Seems a bit steep.. But maybe prices have gone up? Lol cuz last I know, 0.72 F VS2 was $6,750..

 

[Gainduia]

I would go for the last one. You're already paying a premium for D colour so I wouldn't want to pay another premium for the clarity. The price difference is not really due to CT weight of 0.006 but more of the clarity. VVS1 is 3 levels higher than VS2. For VS2, better to check on the durability issues.

I would get the 0.623 over the 0.608. Unless u really want to pay a premium for the Cs then the top one most worth hahaha

Where did u get these quotes from? Seems a bit steep.. But maybe prices have gone up? Lol cuz last I know, 0.72 F VS2 was $6,750..

The price of those are for octagon cut, not SIC.