SBF Nov 2015

[duckie_15]

Sembawang not bad, 2017 can take keys le

 

[tqx]

can anyone help? anyone know how is Application Rate calculated? is it the low digit better or higher the better?

don't look too much into it also , especially if you are minority.

you can see 1000 applicants for 300 flats and ratio of 3.33 but actually the ratio for you is higher or lower depending on race.

 

[tqx]

If first timer + MCPS what are the %% chances??

depends on how many which lvl of MCPS and how many fellow MCPS applicants are there

if you apply to live with parents then first priority.

if stay near parents second priority.

it is 30 % of the SOBF , so if got 100 flat for sale and only 30 applicants under MCPS then sure get.

I think the best way to get SOBF is to do 2 things.
Be a first timer with child( or wife/gf expecting) then live with parents or have 3 children

if I read HDB website correctly 50% is reserved for PPS and 30% for MCPS leaving those without both to be impossible to get a flat cos out of the 85% , 80% already choped

 

[FuzzyMuzzy]

does anyone know if you rejected application for 1st time, is there a refresh period where HDB "forgets" this rejection and you have 2 times to reject again before you are counted as 2nd timer? Or are you basically stuck with this 1 rejection status indefinitely?

 

[humanrace]

http://services2.hdb.gov.sg/webapp/BP13BTOENQWeb/AR_Nov2015_BTO?strSystem=BTO

They got state how they calculate the application rate for 1st/2nd timer below. Got state the allocation for mature/non-mature estate.

The link you give is for BTO. However that is different case for SOBF
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu11p.nsf/0/15NOVSBF_page_1911/$FILE/about0.html

Δ First-timer application rate refers to the number of first-timer applications divided by 95% of the total flat supply, while second-timer application rate refers to the number of second-timer applications divided by 5% of the total flat supply. (However, some flats are also set aside for quota-based priority schemes, where HDB does not differentiate between first-timers and second-timers. At least 95% of the remaining flats are then set aside for first-timers. Where the number of units is less than 20, all the flats will be set aside for allocation to first-timer families. Second-timer families may still apply for these flats. They will be shortlisted if the number of applications received from first-timer families is less than the flat supply)

 

[tingsters]

but i still do not how there calculate the application rate for overall or 1st/2nd timer, after see the example.. can someone explain in a layman terms..

 

[bearine]

but i still do not how there calculate the application rate for overall or 1st/2nd timer, after see the example.. can someone explain in a layman terms..

From my understanding, correct if i'm wrong.

First-timer application rate refers to the number of first-timer applications divided by 95% of the total flat supply, while second-timer application rate refers to the number of second-timer applications divided by 5% of the total flat supply.

For example,

Flat supply: 100 units
Total applicants: 150
First-timer applicants: 125
Second-timer applicants: 25

First timer application rate: 125/95 = 1.3 (95%)
Second timer application rate: 25/5 =5 (5%)
Overall rate:

The overall rate calculation takes into the account of the statement in blue when the first timer application rate is below 1.

Seems like the difference for BTO and SBF is this statement here:
However, some flats are also set aside for quota-based priority schemes, where HDB does not differentiate between first-timers and second-timers. At least 95% of the remaining flats are then set aside for first-timers. Where the number of units is less than 20, all the flats will be set aside for allocation to first-timer families. Second-timer families may still apply for these flats. They will be shortlisted if the number of applications received from first-timer families is less than the flat supply

And they didnt state any different in allocation for mature/non-mature estates.

Overall rate is not that impt to see. If you are first timer. Just look at the first timer rate.

 

[Suethin]

Sembawang not bad, 2017 can take keys le

Any idea why sembawang so many leftover?
The location got future MRT and Canberra Plaza. Is under development.
May'15 sembawang BTO over subscript, but project beside got so many leftover, wonder what is the reason being for people give up the flats.

 

[Sakagamii]

Any idea why sembawang so many leftover?
The location got future MRT and Canberra Plaza. Is under development.
May'15 sembawang BTO over subscript, but project beside got so many leftover, wonder what is the reason being for people give up the flats.

not very sure, but maybe its the industrial offices nearby? excluding the future mrt, the public transport there seem lacking too.

 

[scuderia ferrari]

A question to ask, are the chances for First timer without any priority schemes for sobf high?

 

[duckie_15]

A question to ask, are the chances for First timer without any priority schemes for sobf high?

I think that depends on luck. I am first timer with no scheme for SOBF excercise but gotten 1X from computer balloting.

One of my strategy is applying for estate that have application rate lower than 1.0

Of course i also verify that the available projects are walking distance to mrt.

 

[scuderia ferrari]

I think that depends on luck. I am first timer with no scheme for SOBF excercise but gotten 1X from computer balloting.

One of my strategy is applying for estate that have application rate lower than 1.0

Of course i also verify that the available projects are walking distance to mrt.

thanks for your reply, the current estate that I am interested in already has a rate of 2.3, is it almost certain that I wont get a 2 digit queue number without any additional priority schemes?

 

[duckie_15]

Any idea why sembawang so many leftover?
The location got future MRT and Canberra Plaza. Is under development.
May'15 sembawang BTO over subscript, but project beside got so many leftover, wonder what is the reason being for people give up the flats.

I think it is because the announcement for Canberra mrt was only release earlier this year.

 

[mollyqi]

hi all, i just applied for sembawang sbf as a first timer.
was wondering as long as the no. of applicants does not exceed the units supply mean high chances will get it right?

 

[duckie_15]

thanks for your reply, the current estate that I am interested in already has a rate of 2.3, is it almost certain that I wont get a 2 digit queue number without any additional priority schemes?

Well, again that's luck. My frd applied yishun sobf with application rate of 2.1 but gotten q no 2X

Just try to avoid competing with a huge group of applicants

 

[tingsters]

hi all, i just applied for sembawang sbf as a first timer.
was wondering as long as the no. of applicants does not exceed the units supply mean high chances will get it right?

YES! cos sembawang sbf so many units available i believe the chances is high..

 

[duckie_15]

YES! cos sembawang sbf so many units available i believe the chances is high..

I also think chances are high... best is to observe till second last or last day of the sales launch. Anyway, its not first come first serve.

 

[hydeyoshi]

hi all, i just applied for sembawang sbf as a first timer.
was wondering as long as the no. of applicants does not exceed the units supply mean high chances will get it right?

You apply for 4rm or 5rm? Im considering sembawang also.. I applied May bto but my number out of que..

Im considering btw sembawang and bidadari 3rm. I got mcps if i apply for bidadari 3rm and im monitoring the application.. Dunno which one to go for..

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[scorpio31]

Does anyone know when will sob results be out? Isit Jan or Feb? thanks!

 

[Irvvvv]

Does anyone know when will sob results be out? Isit Jan or Feb? thanks!

bto mid jan
sobf end feb