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gregory_choo

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$30? What deal is that?
i subscribed to 100 Mbps plan long ago at $29. i did not renew contract after contract period was up. starhub continued to bill me the same rate. after a few years, the speed was upgraded to 500Mbps, and upgraded again to 1Gbps a few years later.

so may be the trick is not to sign contract :)
 

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For those getting excited about $20 broadband, I foresee at least 2 caveats at that pricing:

1) No public IPv4 address given that NLT charges quite high (heard it's some $15ish per month) for connections, so you will be on CGNAT. There's literally no money for any profit. If SIMBA follows their mobile connectivity policies, it will be IPv6 enabled so it's not so bad.
2) International routing will be suboptimal. Possibly worse than Singtel's. This is because it's hard to route effectively.
3) Traffic prioritisation may be low at the IX.

I would get it more as a failover line myself.
 

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i subscribed to 100 Mbps plan long ago at $29. i did not renew contract after contract period was up. starhub continued to bill me the same rate. after a few years, the speed was upgraded to 500Mbps, and upgraded again to 1Gbps a few years later.

so may be the trick is not to sign contract :)
Same here, now paying $30.13 for 1GB without contract also.
Never bother to renew my contract for many years.
The 1GB was auto upgrade by Starhub.
 

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For those getting excited about $20 broadband, I foresee at least 2 caveats at that pricing:

1) No public IPv4 address given that NLT charges quite high (heard it's some $15ish per month) for connections, so you will be on CGNAT. There's literally no money for any profit. If SIMBA follows their mobile connectivity policies, it will be IPv6 enabled so it's not so bad.
2) International routing will be suboptimal. Possibly worse than Singtel's. This is because it's hard to route effectively.
3) Traffic prioritisation may be low at the IX.

I would get it more as a failover line myself.
Why speculate. We’d know when it’s launch. People also kpkb when TPG just launched. Over time it has improved by leaps and bounds already.

Hopefully they will run free trials for 6 months or so.
 

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Why speculate. We’d know when it’s launch. People also kpkb when TPG just launched. Over time it has improved by leaps and bounds already.

Hopefully they will run free trials for 6 months or so.
Your comparison isn't a fair one.

Where TPG had to deploy and roll out base stations to improve coverage for their mobile service, for a broadband service they only need to come on board NLT's established infrastructure, the same infrastructure the incumbents use. As such, many aspects of costing is already known. One of our fellow forumers who is himself considering opening an ISP has reminded everyone that NLT's cut is some $15/mo/line.

Prices will remain low while SIMBA aims for market share and can use up investor's funds, but unlike mobile phones where one person can hold two or more lines, flxed line broadband services is limited to two per domicile unless they add extra NLT points at their own cost (the first is free). Eventually, the funds will dry up and they need to be profitable like any business.

Also, where they have no additional costs for mobile coverage (and hence giving free service is entirely on them), for fixed line broadband they must pay NLT fees per user per month. $20 can be reasonably considered their "free trial" amount.
 
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Your comparison isn't a fair one.

Where TPG had to deploy and roll out base stations to improve coverage for their mobile service, for a broadband service they only need to come on board NLT's established infrastructure, the same infrastructure the incumbents use. As such, many aspects of costing is already known. One of our fellow forumers who is himself considering opening an ISP has reminded everyone that NLT's cut is some $15/mo/line.

Prices will remain low while SIMBA aims for market share and can use up investor's funds, but unlike mobile phones where one person can hold two or more lines, flxed line broadband services is limited to two per domicile unless they add extra NLT points at their own cost (the first is free). Eventually, the funds will dry up and they need to be profitable like any business.

Also, where they have no additional costs for mobile coverage (and hence giving free service is entirely on them), for fixed line broadband they must pay NLT fees per user per month. $20 can be reasonably considered their "free trial" amount.
You talk as an insider. I talk as an end user perspective. There is nothing fair or not fair. I’m Sure their business mgrs will have considered all parameters to launch at this price. And $15 for others does not mean Simba cannot get a preferential rates but with certain t&c. In the world of business, there is nothing in absolute. People looks down on TPG but they managed to survive.
You can share ur view but others should be able to share theirs too.
 

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just guessing. may be simba is using their own mmWave as backhual, instead of paying NLT.
 

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just guessing. may be simba is using their own mmWave as backhual, instead of paying NLT.
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Every fibre to the home connection has to go through NLT, this is mandated by IMDA.

And mmWave is for cellular, not fixed broadband.

Plus mmWave can't even penetrate through a wall, how u provide service to everyone?
 

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mmWave is not suitable for mobile applications. the main reason is not able to penetrate walls.
but it is good for for backhual of cellular and broadband.
not directly to end users.
but to main distribution frame of buildings.
 

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Wow.i was surprise that tpg at jb roaming very seamless..don't need change network or airplane mode..it just can surf directly..when using redone ,it will lose network until I change or restart phone..speed test at mid valley faster than my home so many time.s...
 

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Wow.i was surprise that tpg at jb roaming very seamless..don't need change network or airplane mode..it just can surf directly..when using redone ,it will lose network until I change or restart phone..speed test at mid valley faster than my home so many time.s...

Alot ppl did not set the correct apn for redone and uses default apn from starhub causing connectivity issues..


Myrepublic, VIVIFI, redone
 

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For those getting excited about $20 broadband, I foresee at least 2 caveats at that pricing:

1) No public IPv4 address given that NLT charges quite high (heard it's some $15ish per month) for connections, so you will be on CGNAT. There's literally no money for any profit. If SIMBA follows their mobile connectivity policies, it will be IPv6 enabled so it's not so bad.
2) International routing will be suboptimal. Possibly worse than Singtel's. This is because it's hard to route effectively.
3) Traffic prioritisation may be low at the IX.

I would get it more as a failover line myself.
where do you get this info? They didn't even get started.
 

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pretty much first time.. been with singtel since i first got my mobile phone about 20 years ago. Thanks!
You were initially worried after reading a lot of negative reviews and comments in this thread.
However, you actually went ahead and ported over.
So, are you happy with the signal reception?
 

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simba shaking sg again


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Can registered the interest first. If there is trial can test. :)
 
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