[ST] How WP won over Sengkang

[xiongzzz]

The PE residents were misled by MIW tactics. Think was they claimed 22.5 million "missing" from the town council fund but never to confirm even after CC retirement. What a joke!

So could be the ex-PE voters must be fuming and decided to pay back once and for all.

Same as the viral video

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[Techno Pride]

not reading propaganda.

 

[Techno Pride]

The PE residents were misled by MIW tactics. Think was they claimed 22.5 million "missing" from the town council fund but never to confirm even after CC retirement. What a joke!

So could be the ex-PE voters must be fuming and decided to pay back once and for all.

When the same people keep getting "misled" over and over again over many years, then the problem is probably got nothing to do with anything misleading. It's more likely to be blind faith.

Not saying whether its ok or not to have blind faith in anyone...

 

[trento]

2015 general election was due to Ah Gong effect

Pinky took it as an endorsement of his cabinet and the policies enacted when he should have been looking at ways to improve from 2011 election results

Bloomberg did say 2011 pap made some changes tat were popular, hence winning 2015 election. I suppose some also credit ah gong effect but it's not the only thing

 

[trento]

It's very worried for pap
Next ge will be more seats gone if wp do well for next 5 years and psp improve themselves with more talent

Ng teo masago shan probably retiring and pm lee have to pass baton soon, if ccs became next pm will be worst, very interesting to see next GE or GE 2030, smells the end of pap.

The talents pap get are mostly from saf which are not impressive to many

Do well as in estate management? Shd b no problem as they can run town councils. Parliament side which is what matters they cannot do anything

 

[trento]

How about punggol east SMC (now become sengkang east if i am right) by election in 2013, how come the residents choose LLL over son of punggol?

Party values suoersede individual candidate.

Obviously jalan besar didn't vote for Josephine but for wat pap stands for

 

[trento]

Some truth in this. What the WP MPs can do that the PAP candidates can't is the time spent on the ground. Build relationships, sit down and have a honest chit chat with the residents, and behave like a fellow human being.

How do you expect a former defence chief to kneel or speak respectfully to the residents? Not that NCM is disrespectful... it is just not in a general to portray that kind of body language and behavior.

Once WP sink roots like how TPL became synonymous with her residents, they will do well.

Wp will connect well with residents. It usually does.

It doesn't matter if ppl connect to ground or not as long as he has the means to enact policies that benefit sinkies. Unfortunately wp cannot. So guys, 31 seats is the magic number. Anything less has no meaningful change in our lives.

 

[EmPtYsOuLz]

The current gen of office holders don't hold a candle to the previous generations

Young singaporeans don't really care that you're a minister unless you're Tharman, LHL, VB, Sham or LW

 

[matchy]

They overestimated the ‘abilities’ of NCM & Amin lah. Then Lam practically dug his own grave with the PMD controversy.

 

[RetroActive]

Then y’all noticed thru out the campaign and the tv rallies, MIW practically all talking about infrastructure improvements, what initiatives for the old ppl lah, etc. I dun remember hearing anything about policies.

****i, covered walkways and new this new that. All these I can do without lah. Can your covered walkways sustain my daily expenses and give me QUALITY jod opportunities anot?

Got to kick them at where it hurts the most

errr... i was surprised this covered walkway thingy already talked for like 5 yrs 10 yrs still can continue for how long? something is not right if after so many years still not done...

 

[woolff]

Punggol west will be Punggol east in the making.....let’s merge it into Sengkang GRC next election. Turn it blue

 

[fandango]

Again, Berita Harian very factual reporting.

PAP must understand you cannot stir feelings among Malay community.

 

[Gaminator]

I hope to see more inroads being made by the opposition parties come 2025, as I think many don't like the way things are going. Sure, the govt can import more FTs (CECAs, China Chinese, Pinoys, etc) and treat them well to get their votes as new citizens but at the cost of alienating more and more native citizens.

This election has thrown a wrench in the works for the PAP, and I hope to see that perhaps, they have learned something and rethink their high handed approach to decisions and policies they implement.

Look at the way they suka suka change the constitution, barring this, requiring that candidate must be Malay when Halimah is actually an Indian Muslim, and changing things around till only she was left. In the US, and most western states, the law set in the constitution is enshrined and isn't something that is easy to amend or change, and that's the way it should be. That's the problem of a super majority govt, they can do whatever and nobody can stop them

I hope to see the day when the govt loses to the point where they lose their 2/3 majority, then they cannot simply change the constitution as and when they like. They still have the majority to implement policies as they like, but with a strong opposition highlighting the negative aspects of such policies, the ruling party would have to rethink and shape its policies to help the citizens of Singapore instead of marginalizing them in favor of the elite and foreigners/new citizens.

 

[PrataKosong]

Punggol west will be Punggol east in the making.....let’s merge it into Sengkang GRC next election. Turn it blue

Sun Xue Ling star power is too strong. She connects very well with her ward's residents and is always ready to help. Even those Punggol residents not within her own ward can go to her MPS and she will do her best to help them.

Even then, it was shocking that she got only 60% of the vote against an untested Worker Party newbie.

There are other reasons for the poor showing which are entirely out of Sun Xue Ling's control. If you stay Punggol West you will know the reasons.

 

[trento]

Sun Xue Ling star power is too strong. She connects very well with her ward's residents and is always ready to help. Even those Punggol residents not within her own ward can go to her MPS and she will do her best to help them.

Even then, it was shocking that she got only 60% of the vote against an untested Worker Party newbie.

There are other reasons for the poor showing which are entirely out of Sun Xue Ling's control. If you stay Punggol West you will know the reasons.

Simple. Ppl vote party, not candidate

 

[ultrasad]

The pap lost for 2 reasons. Disunity and unfairness

Any other reasons are products from the above

 

[Techno Pride]

errr... i was surprised this covered walkway thingy already talked for like 5 yrs 10 yrs still can continue for how long? something is not right if after so many years still not done...

Yes, it's always the same discussion topics.

 

[erwinrommel]

Punggol demography is similar to SK, if SK can fall, punggol can fall as well.

If G don’t care about cost of living, free flow of labour ****, flip flopping on policies, then I wonder what would happen to Pasir Ris punggol with they break the punggol portion from Pasir Ris. WP already one foot in at Punggol West.

Pasir ris punggol grc isn't as strong as it seems because they face weak opponent.

If they face wp, i expect pap to garner 55-58 percent votes and will make tch sweat.

Even sun xueling, a very popular and well respected mp in punggol West, only got 60 percent votes against a recently parachuted wp tan chen chen. Gathering 40 percent votes in a pap stronghold is higher than the combined votes of both sda and pv.

 

[MichealScott]

I don't think jamus effect is that strong, though contributory.

Young couples in SK are just not happy with PAP anymore, so with or without Jamus, SK will still fall

Not true but yes, young people in general are already very pissed with PAP. But if the oppo not strong, don't think we will see that much of swing voters towards oppo.

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[Bohuatoh]

What is your observation on why PAP lost Seng kang GRC?

What is your observation on why PAP lost Sengkang GRC?

1. Because of Jamus Lim's effect?
2. Because of new and young Voters wanting an or more alternative voices in Parliament?
3. Because of Lam Pin Min (Two Big blunders)
The Crematorium issue and the PMD Issue.
4. Others.