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Roflcopterr

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should i buy premarket now around $930 which is really a steal already

or wait tonight open market possibly drop till <900?
 

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I was skeptical about TSLA early last year but after reading up more, TSLA is really a beast in their field.

The technology lead that they have put themselves up ahead with other manufacturers is too much.

Now with gigafactories being commissioned, and their AI being developed, I think this is one stock you can DCA for the next 10 years and still beat the market

the other ice companies like toyota, ford, gm, merc, etc, are having lotsa catch up to do, though they do have small quantity of EV to offer but takes time and heavy investment to ramp up the volume.
 

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I will get slaughtered by those knee deep in Tesla for posting this here but I actually think in the next 3 years Tesla will get to a fairer valuation of $300 to $400 and even so it would still be more expensive compared to the likes of apple , msft.

Just wondering where is the moat in Tesla?

Competition seems to be catching up fast,
and have this feeling Lucid and eventually Rivian will end up encroaching on a lot of their sales. Not to say the traditional auto makers who start coming out with their own EVs.
When the market is flooded with EV options in a few years time, I know personally I will look around the different automaker options before I decide which to buy. In terms of design, I personally I like what lucid is coming up with ( not vested in Lucid).

anyways my point is competition for Tesla will only get more intense. Those long term put options on Tesla…are looking attractive.

just expressing my opinion here, end of the day it’s what we make from the stock that matters in our bank account.


Biggest Moat : Engineering
1.High margin due to vertically integrated processes (engineering prowess ) -tons of video on this
2. Battery tech , 4680 gonna drive down their cost of battery while competitions cant even find sufficient batteries.
3. Profits are reinvested to r&d or more factories, end game is to produce super affordable EV.
4. Startup-like culture in a 1T company , innovation is the key to success in this era.
and many more


Competition:
1. Besides Chinese EV and Volkswagen, there ain't much competition.
2. Lucid? Have you seen their car prices? 77k~169k vs 44k~120k. Paying premium for an alpha release EV?
3. Rivian? Might treat them seriously when I see some production.
For startups: ramping up production is very very difficult. The Model 3 ramp nearly cause Tesla to go bankrupt.

4. Legacy autos?
4.1 Japanese automakers aren't not too into pure EV, they prefer hybrid which cause more harm to the environment than ICE/EV. Also, more part = higher maintenance cost.
4.2 US autos like GM and Ford, they have to invest into brand new manufacturing line. Opposition from unions, lack of funds. They are losing money for every EV they sell by eating into their existing ICE sales. They are already struggling now, they might go bankrupt if their ICE sales shrink more.


When Tesla eventually comes out with a 25k model, there wouldn't be much competition. The only constraint is their production capacity.
Tesla is like a smartphone while other brands are 0G mobile phones

Additional bull cases which are great to have, but not necessarily needed for valuation:
1. FSD and possibility of robotaxi
2. Solar and storage solution
3. Tesla insurance
4. Tesla bot


New investors can wait out, wait for this taper tantrum to end. Dont have to rush to buy.
Existing investors can try to dca at key levels
 
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Hold strong for today, expect jpow to bring some greens tmr following record eps on wed.
 

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Biggest Moat : Engineering
1.High margin due to vertically integrated processes (engineering prowess ) -tons of video on this
2. Battery tech , 4680 gonna drive down their cost of battery while competitions cant even find sufficient batteries.
3. Profits are reinvested to r&d or more factories, end game is to produce super affordable EV.
4. Startup-like culture in a 1T company , innovation is the key to success in this era.
and many more


Competition:
1. Besides Chinese EV and Volkswagen, there ain't much competition.
2. Lucid? Have you seen their car prices? 77k~169k vs 44k~120k. Paying premium for an alpha release EV?
3. Rivian? Might treat them seriously when I see some production.
For startups: ramping up production is very very difficult. The Model 3 ramp nearly cause Tesla to go bankrupt.

4. Legacy autos?
4.1 Japanese automakers aren't not too into pure EV, they prefer hybrid which cause more harm to the environment than ICE/EV. Also, more part = higher maintenance cost.
4.2 US autos like GM and Ford, they have to invest into brand new manufacturing line. Opposition from unions, lack of funds. They are losing money for every EV they sell by eating into their existing ICE sales. They are already struggling now, they might go bankrupt if their ICE sales shrink more.


When Tesla eventually comes out with a 25k model, there wouldn't be much competition. The only constraint is their production capacity.
Tesla is like a smartphone while other brands are 0G mobile phones

Additional bull cases which are great to have, but not necessarily needed for valuation:
1. FSD and possibility of robotaxi
2. Solar and storage solution
3. Tesla insurance
4. Tesla bot


New investors can wait out, wait for this taper tantrum to end. Dont have to rush to buy.
Existing investors can try to dca at key levels
Those who dont understand will always say competition is coming. Funny to assume how competitors can magically overcome what tesla had to do over years.
 

loonybun

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Those who dont understand will always say competition is coming. Funny to assume how competitors can magically overcome what tesla had to do over years.
Yea we have been hearing this "competition is coming" since years ago. Its like saying a toddler just learnt how to run, and competition is coming for Usain Bolt lol
 
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