The Watch Thread - Part 12

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gaoxing84

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^ I thought moonwatch and 2254 uses similar bracelet and clasp? Haha
As a owner of 2254.
I think whatever a 2254 have, a seiko can match.
It's nothing special. Except the looks.
I buy because I like the look.
Other than that, nothing else.
 
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大年初一的... just wear what u like lo. Everyone got their own preference and taste on watch, so its impossible to 'convert' everyone to like what u wear.

Xiang tiong yao is kaki wear liao happy, healthy and wealthy :D:s13:
 

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- labour intensive means better?
- It is definitely not more precise lol.
- The 321 uses a column wheel and horizontal clutch. The jerk / jumpy chrono hands upon activation of the chrono is caused by the horizontal clutch engaging the chrono second hand. This is eliminated using the vertical clutch and has absolutely nothing to do with cam actuated vs column wheel. (many ignorant ppl quote this when they do not actually how it works)
- Looks are subjective. In terms of functionality, they both achieve the exact same purpose.
- Cams are way more reliable, robust and efficient. (reliability is important. Apollo 13 failure is not an option remember?)
- The nylon brake was adopted because it had a much lower friction coefficient. Omega used the metal brake in the 863 and 1863 for obvious reasons (see through caseback. Aesthetic reasons.) In any case, the 863 and 1863 were not NASA certified so it doesn't really matter.

I thought this was a 321 vs 861 comparison. So I don't really know why you started off the comparison with a column wheel + vertical clutch examples.

Zenith's el primero 36000 bph has nothing to do with the cam vs column wheel comparison. The speedmaster was originally designed to be a reliable racing chronograph that could withstand the vibrations and rigours of motor racing back in the day. The fact that it survived the NASA's tests is a testament to that quality.

This chrono was build to be a toolwatch, reliable and sturdy. Not an elegant PP 1435 or a Lange 1815 chrono. So why talk about elegance? It's akin to putting down a Honda S2000 because it's F20 engine issn't elegant.




as legit as legit can get. all objective statements.



column wheel with vertical clutch:
- the higher end, more labour-intensive mechanism
- more precise, higher tolerance construction
- smooth push action: column wheel with vertical clutch starts smoothly with no noticeable jerk
- which means the chrono seconds starts smoothly with no jerk unlike cam-activated
- looks more beautiful through a see-through case back

cam-activated with horizontal clutch:
- lower tolerance parts = cheap, budget (as in cost, not the retail price)
- simpler, less elegant than column wheel
- tougher, stickier feel when pushing the button cos it requires more force mechanically to turn the cam in its axis
- jumpy chrono seconds hand when the start button is pushed
- wear & tear: there's a reason why omega fitted nylon parts to its cal 816/1861. they only swap it with metal parts for models with the see-through caseback, cos let's face it: nylon parts noticed in a luxury watch is a disaster and embarrassment

finally as an aside:
- zenith's el-primero hum along at 36,000 vph, allowing it to accurately measure down to 1/10th of a second.
- omega's 861/1861 only manages 21,600 vph.

not trolling. at all. :)
 

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大年初一的... just wear what u like lo. Everyone got their own preference and taste on watch, so its impossible to 'convert' everyone to like what u wear.

Xiang tiong yao is kaki wear liao happy, healthy and wealthy :D:s13:

i se beh su kak how you use hokkien in your leeply~

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Wish you win bro (but then above you said no gamble...how can toto and lottery?) :s11:

when you win i only want a 5711R

boss, $1 quick pick is not gambling lah.

the following is a true* account of high stakes gambling:

gambling is when you slide 2 stacks of 10 orange chips each @ $25k per chip onto the player box at mbs paiza room VIP baccarat table. cos the table limit on your lucky table that night was merely $500k. ah well. just a start.

the croupier opens hers to reveal a pair of 4 of hearts while yours is a king of hearts atop a covered card.

yeah. like she want you to doubly make you to "4". her 杀气 damn strong. she's one of those killer croupiers casinos bring in as substitutes when clients are winning big.

big deal. you brushed off that inauspicious notion as quickly as it surfaced.

the many special blessings you received and the blessed holy amulets in you and on you are more than a match for ANY dark forces who dare goes up against them.

nevertheless, beads of sweat involuntarily forms on your forehead even as you try unsuccessfully to slow down your racing heart cos the adrenaline just kicked in, yo!

and that's not just because the sexy redhead is purposefully bending lower to allow you a good eyeful at her lucious half-ball double D-cup melon goodness after she spotted the PP 5711R sparking under the halogen room lights on your wrist as her heady perfume wafts through your refined nose.

it's the same feeling in your day job.

cos you live for adrenaline.

it comes as no surprise that your favourite sports are sky-diving (you picked that up when you were an NS commando officer. even extended your service to qualify for HALO and HAHO with the SOF. you begged & you sweet-talked your way into the training program with COL Chiang Hock Woon when he was your CCO that time. he made an exception cos you're the best NSF officer he's had in all his career up till that point. he's BG now. you chaps still keep in touch), scuba-diving (you hold multiple PADI rescue diver, wreck diver, saturation diver ratings), polo (you even played with prince harry once when you were stationed in the uk), yacht-racing, open-wheel racing and fencing.

you take a deep, DEEP breath or two.

you bend your card & peek under the long edge of your covered card in fearful yet hopeful anticipation.

4 sides! :eek:

game not over yet. it could be a 10.

you do the same for the shorter edge.

2 sides! :eek:

is it gonna be a 9 or deadmeat if it's a 10?

you take a swig of favourite liquor. smooth, velvety.

you take a DEEP breath. stands up from your seat. reach for the covered card. and slam it face side up!

9 of hearts!!!

you give a few huge shouts of victory "YESSS!!! YESSS!!! YESSS!!!" as you slam your fists in cadence with your shouts along the padded edge of the baccarat table.

but that's just the start of the shoe.

you know your lucks on your side tonight.

you negotiate with the VIP executive to request for NO LIMIT gaming. he made a few phone calls.

"i beg your pardon mr Thai_Rak_Thai. you're our most valued VIP client. and i deeply apologize for disappointing you. but we've a table limit of $1 mil per hand."

being the debonair, sartorial & poised gentleman that you are, you don't want to make things difficult.

"can you please do me a favour?" (cos you're always polite & considerate to everyone, including the cleaning lady in your office)

"call sheldon to see if we can play in usd - as a personal favour - he has my number." (it's just past 11 pm local time, so it won't impose on mr adelson. you're considerate as ever).

sheldon agrees.

the night wore on.

you did lose slightly more hands than you won.

BUT.

those that you lost were chicken feed compare to the massive USD1 million per hand that won.

and those that you lost?

cushioned with the side bets you made on tie bets and player/banker pairs.

after 3 hours and 78 hands, you won 38 hands vs 40 hands.

but because your instincts were good, you only lost when you cut down to your customary floor bet of $100k. only USD4 mil loss. chicken feed.

compared to the USD$38 mil you won each time you max out the table limit.

good thing too you were playing alone. with no hangers-on eating into the table limit.

with the miscellaneous wins on tie and double player/banker bets, you're won a cool USD38mil+.

sigh.

"this even harder than work", you think to yourself.

when you regularly make a killing in the capital markets at 50 million net a pop in EUR, GBP, USD and YEN equivalents.

because you're THE finance wunderkind. THE capital market clairvoyant. THE securities savant. THE forex wizard.

"time for a good workout cos it's gonna be tarma time with the sexy russian blonde and sexy japanese high class hookers tonight at the mbs presidential suite", you chuckled to yourself.

as usual, you gave generous tips all round to the room staff (this time, easily equivalent to their annual salaries) and the executives present.

you make a mental note to increase your charitable contributions tomorrow.

just because you care enough. to care. :)
*true as in mandela effect true. it could very well happen in another timeline!
 
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i'm a kuai kuai suaku. no smoke. no drink. no drugs. no women. no gamble.

damn, i'm a boring old phuck. :(

ps. truth is, i'm a POOR old phuck. if not POOR, see me go chiong ah! :crazy:. so, please wish and bless me good luck to huat big big at toto & lottery! thanks bro reikizi! :s12:

no gamble .. how to bless you good luck for toto and lottery leh :s11:

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whats the one at the hyatt basement - brannigans ? and also the one at the previously known as merlin hotel on beach road ? :D

yes , shld call brannigans . only went there once or twice .. dun really like it then.

Merlin hotel :eek: totally no idea wor ... mean I younger than u :D

the ones I went frequently are Scandals, ridleys, 97, canto, Mdm Wong

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Aiya watch where got right or wrong one. To be honest I will never trade my moon watch for even two 2254.50

It does not means I deem the speedy to be twice as good but just that the 2254.50 does not appeal to me in any single bit.

Most of the function u state in the 2254.50 can be match by a seiko haha

So if the world is about just function we all be wearing an Apple i watch hahah

i shall decline the bait cos i don't wish to the discussion to devolve to a casio F-91W. ;)

tbh, i was in love with the speedy when i started on my humble watch hobby. everyone man and his pet says that the speedy is the entry luxury watch to get. almost even got one at a good price, but someone's trigger was faster than mine.

and a lucky thing too. cos i found out about its "deficiencies" later. :s13:

it's got a pretty face, no doubt about it!

looks busy, tachy (see what i did there with the pun on techy? ;)), satki with multiple dials and such.

but utterly useless to long-sighted uncle like me.

want to know the speed? that's what a speedometer that comes in every car is for, no? press push button on stopwatch for what. still have to find mile/km markers. and you need a co-driver to do that. you won't go around timing your speed with a chronograph while you're actually driving, do you? ;)

come to think of it, that means a breitling navitimer is also out ah? drats! :( :s13:
 

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Need to know the time then look at your phone la..

This is what passion and interest is all about. It issnt logical and never will be
 

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no gamble .. how to bless you good luck for toto and lottery leh :s11:

:s13::s13::s13:

i don't gamble like in my true story. wish i could.

i need the every ounce of luck you kinds bros and all that is good can bless me with for the toto cascade draw. :)

gam sia juay juay! :s12:
 
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