The Watch Thread - Part 16

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Oh my bad, I misunderstood as you seemed fixated on getting a Seiko.

If you're ok to explore other brands, no harm walking around some pawn shops or dealers to see what you find. I think in general local e-commerce is a little behind other international chains and would not have complete inventories online.
I feel it is because there isn't a large watch community in Singapore
from a business standpoint (as a 2nd hand watch dealer), it is logical to stick to the popular mainstream watches for them to make a profit - Rolex Submariner e.g.
 

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I feel it is because there isn't a large watch community in Singapore
from a business standpoint (as a 2nd hand watch dealer), it is logical to stick to the popular mainstream watches for them to make a profit - Rolex Submariner e.g.
Huh? Thot sg is one of the biggest watch buyers in the world...

There are also a few local forums where you can buy/trade watches
 

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Huh? Thot sg is one of the biggest watch buyers in the world...

There are also a few local forums where you can buy/trade watches
I mean watch community as in not just luxury watches
SG non-luxury watch community is it big??

amongst my friends tbh not many into watches (non-luxury)
I know SG luxury market very big, but watch in general I not so sure
 

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I mean watch community as in not just luxury watches
SG non-luxury watch community is it big??

amongst my friends tbh not many into watches (non-luxury)
I know SG luxury market very big, but watch in general I not so sure
I share your view, Singapore market seems very skewed towards luxury watches. The watch community for Rolex, AP, PP is very huge and active, probably one of the largest consumption per capita in the world. Whereas for entry level to mid-level luxury it seems a lot quieter.

i.e. in other countries can see more businesses trading tag heuers, longines, etc.
 

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I share your view, Singapore market seems very skewed towards luxury watches. The watch community for Rolex, AP, PP is very huge and active, probably one of the largest consumption per capita in the world. Whereas for entry level to mid-level luxury it seems a lot quieter.

i.e. in other countries can see more businesses trading tag heuers, longines, etc.
Singaporeans me inclusive are usually very money-minded

i dare say a majority of people buying rolexes in sinagpore are not watch enthusiasts and the most probably know nuts about watches. They just buy it as a status symbol

think the newly successful property and insurance agent
 

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Singaporeans me inclusive are usually very money-minded

i dare say a majority of people buying rolexes in sinagpore are not watch enthusiasts and the most probably know nuts about watches. They just buy it as a status symbol

think the newly successful property and insurance agent
Probably not only in Singapore, I think watch enthusiasts are the minority. Buying Rolex as a status symbol is quite common, including some watch enthusiasts whom may have started with Rolex before getting absorbed into the watch world. At that point, they will buy PP et al and realise actually Rolex is the kid's table in terms of both luxury and price.
 

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Probably not only in Singapore, I think watch enthusiasts are the minority. Buying Rolex as a status symbol is quite common, including some watch enthusiasts whom may have started with Rolex before getting absorbed into the watch world. At that point, they will buy PP et al and realise actually Rolex is the kid's table in terms of both luxury and price.
I was actually quite anti-Rolex

but then after reading about and looking at spec sheets of seiko vs some other models. I realized the Rolex (less then status symbol impression and hype) is a very very well rounded watch.

so other than the show off part.
I think I finally get Rolex’s value proposition. It’s a very well rounded watch but it’s sorely overpriced especially in the reseller market.
 

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I was actually quite anti-Rolex

but then after reading about and looking at spec sheets of seiko vs some other models. I realized the Rolex (less then status symbol impression and hype) is a very very well rounded watch.

so other than the show off part.
I think I finally get Rolex’s value proposition. It’s a very well rounded watch but it’s sorely overpriced especially in the reseller market.
Rolex makes solid watches for its price range. They’re sturdy and reliable. I think the retail price that Rolex is asking is fair, not overpriced at all, only the secondary market price is somewhat high for what it is horologically.
 

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lol yall don't know what you talking about.

there's huge groups of people into seiko's and microbrands here in sg. do some searches in facebooks. there's groups dedicated to that.

there's a small group of people here into sub 2k watches already.
 

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lol yall don't know what you talking about.

there's huge groups of people into seiko's and microbrands here in sg. do some searches in facebooks. there's groups dedicated to that.

there's a small group of people here into sub 2k watches already.
Sure there is a small cult following, I didn’t say there’s no demand. But the fact that even the ADs are throwing prices between 35-40% off, and the boutique itself is giving 20-25% off is very telling about the true market demand.
Whereas other brand have waitlists at full retail price.
 

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Sure there is a small cult following, I didn’t say there’s no demand. But the fact that even the ADs are throwing prices between 35-40% off, and the boutique itself is giving 20-25% off is very telling about the true market demand.
Whereas other brand have waitlists at full retail price.
Exactly. I share the same sentiment as you.

another tell tale sign is the lack of second hand resellers that sell non-luxury watches.

the UK portal Watch Finder has such an extensive range of products while in SG, it’s like what people here says. Limited to Rolexes and AP etc in the reseller market.

it’s indicative of the small size of the (non-luxury) watch community
 

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Sure there is a small cult following, I didn’t say there’s no demand. But the fact that even the ADs are throwing prices between 35-40% off, and the boutique itself is giving 20-25% off is very telling about the true market demand.
Whereas other brand have waitlists at full retail price.
Seiko has small cult following? :unsure:
 
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