The Watch Thread - Part 4

[creative11112004]

any lobang to hoot good leather strap?

 

[All in a Day]

lol, why so butt hurt?

hey look, i know mercedes benz sl63 amg uses an iwc clock in its dashboard, but iwc is really a wannabe brand that overcharges for casing eta movements.

and jaeger lecoultre's master ultra thin perpetual is superior to iwc's portuguese perpetual calender (be it the regular version or their limited little prince edition) from an aesthetic, design and manufacture pov as a few of gentlemen here agrees.

look pal, there're plenty of venerable, once proud, independent brands that are reduced to casing eta movements like longines, rado, tissot, etc.

nothing against eta movements. they're good & reliable.

but when you start charging a huge premium for casing eta movements while trying to fool the less discerning into thinking that you're a higher tier luxury watch brand than you really are, then it's only right to call you out for being less than honest.

that's where jaeger lecoultre, piaget, heck even rolex have pride of place as true watchmakers who design and manufacture their own watch movements.

Luxury watch is very much marketing other than product.A tbranding, imaging perception industry. JLC understands its strengths lies with consumers being proud to own a JLC because they only use in-house movements for all their watches and they will not break the bank on themselves so to speak. Notice they don't exactly trumpet that, but ask people into watches about "why JLC?", u will inevitably be given the in-house reply.

Iwc decided they want to cast a wide net. They have their own movements and innovations, their signature pieces in big pilot, portuguese, ingeniuer. But they also want a piece of lower end, "fashion pieces" market. That's where they incur the wrath of the segment of market like teentitan.

Does iwc know or care? I should think they did their sums of the segments they will gain and those they will lose. Time will tell if the approach pays off.

 

[DaBenDan]

lol, why so butt hurt?

hey look, i know mercedes benz sl63 amg uses an iwc clock in its dashboard, but iwc is really a wannabe brand that overcharges for casing eta movements.

and jaeger lecoultre's master ultra thin perpetual is superior to iwc's portuguese perpetual calender (be it the regular version or their limited little prince edition) from an aesthetic, design and manufacture pov as a few of gentlemen here agrees.

look pal, there're plenty of venerable, once proud, independent brands that are reduced to casing eta movements like longines, rado, tissot, etc.

nothing against eta movements. they're good & reliable.

but when you start charging a huge premium for casing eta movements while trying to fool the less discerning into thinking that you're a higher tier luxury watch brand than you really are, then it's only right to call you out for being less than honest.

that's where jaeger lecoultre, piaget, heck even rolex have pride of place as true watchmakers who design and manufacture their own watch movements.

Lol. Your response and statement are sweeping as always. The few gentleman here don't represent anything at all. Well, we can always agree to disagree. Cheers to watch lovers.

 

[TeenTitan01]

any lobang to hoot good leather strap?

German watches, tactical watches, watch accessories - Gnomonwatches.com ?

 

[All in a Day]

the tank/santos doesn't quite tickle my fancy, but whatever rocks your boat
I've got a zenith port royal, and that itself is a contentious design

It's just me, but cartier sticks to me as a ladies and jewellery brand, notwithstanding they do have rich watch heritage and for that i'll pass.

 

[TeenTitan01]

Lol. Your response and statement are sweeping as always. The few gentleman here don't represent anything at all. Well, we can always agree to disagree. Cheers to watch lovers.

that is certainly needed to sweep the cobwebs off minds haplessly ensnared by marketing hype, hyperbole and horsesh!t of less than honest salesmen bent on flogging a product that's less than their true standing.

"The few gentleman here don't represent anything at all." ?!!!

whoa! trying to be more watch snob than me ah? i think you over-succeeded! lol.

the few gentleman here has more refinement & discernment than the bulk of the parvenu, wannabes, posers, plebians & insecure, confidence-lacking, "me-too" brand whores out there...

... and also represent a significant chunk of net worth that luxury watch companies are chasing after. after all if they don't buy their watches, who does? their povs certainly matter. be they trend-setters or adopters.

 

[hoaaron]

Anyone know where can i find replacement band for this watch

 

[All in a Day]

Anyone know where can i find replacement band for this watch

If u looking for original bracelet replacement, your best bet is to contact the local distributor or authorised agents for your watch brand

 

[hoaaron]

If u looking for original bracelet replacement, your best bet is to contact the local distributor or authorised agents for your watch brand

Cause i have problem finding them too hence if can find the band for this i'm happy

 

[patryn33]

any lobang to hoot good leather strap?

Wanna buy online?
http://www.fredawatchstraps.com

 

[TeenTitan01]

It's just me, but cartier sticks to me as a ladies and jewellery brand, notwithstanding they do have rich watch heritage and for that i'll pass.

WRISTwatches WERE considered FEMININE at the turn of the 20th century. POCKET watches were for the GENTLEMEN.

but war years in the early 20th century and aviation needs changed all that to free hands from handling a pocket watch to read the time.

you need to get re-aquainted on their iconic santos and tank watches, matey, which established the square/rectangular watch case/dial along with jlc's reverso.

and their iconic LOVE bracelet.

classic style never dies and will always endure.

 

[StephenHawking]

Come back, Chris Koh! At least you were funny.

 

[Henabi]

Too much reading of watch snob dude...

Dude... not sure if you realise that some of the watch collectors here are watching from the sidelines... its very one-dimensional...

 

[All in a Day]

Cause i have problem finding them too hence if can find the band for this i'm happy

Metal bracelets tend to be unique to watch design/brands and not easily replaceable using generic bands, unlike leather straps.

I am no expert and watch repair shops will have a better sense. You may want to visit a few shops and get their frank opinion. If they tell u it's difficult to get a replacement, it probably is.

 

[Henabi]

Come back, Chris Koh! At least you were funny.

Where is the LOVE?!?!

 

[Henabi]

Anyone know where can i find replacement band for this watch

Yiu want to bring your watch to a watch repair ship and ask.
Some bands can't be changed.
While some maybe need to do a bit of filing or cutting

Like the wrist band for my kenneth cole n 25 hrs auto watches very difficult to change

 

[All in a Day]

WRISTwatches WERE considered FEMININE at the turn of the 20th century. POCKET watches were for the GENTLEMEN.

but war years in the early 20th century and aviation needs changed all that to free hands from handling a pocket watch to read the time.

you need to get re-aquainted on their iconic santos and tank watches, matey, which established the square/rectangular watch case/dial along with jlc's reverso.

and their iconic LOVE bracelet.

classic style never dies and will always endure.

Thanks for the informative post. Still stand by my view at the moment though..

To give an example to illustrate my perspective, I think that the rolex day date is a great watch from a great watch company but not something I think I will get because of the towkay image I perceive it portrays, at least locally.

End of the day, luxury watches are an extension of one's perceived values and aesthetics preferences. No right or wrong.

 

[hoaaron]

Yiu want to bring your watch to a watch repair ship and ask.
Some bands can't be changed.
While some maybe need to do a bit of filing or cutting

Like the wrist band for my kenneth cole n 25 hrs auto watches very difficult to change

Yea went to a few shop they say the band fitting is different so cant. Was hoping to head down to orchard area to look for it

 

[TeenTitan01]

Luxury watch is very much marketing other than product.A tbranding, imaging perception industry. JLC understands its strengths lies with consumers being proud to own a JLC because they only use in-house movements for all their watches and they will not break the bank on themselves so to speak. Notice they don't exactly trumpet that, but ask people into watches about "why JLC?", u will inevitably be given the in-house reply.

Iwc decided they want to cast a wide net. They have their own movements and innovations, their signature pieces in big pilot, portuguese, ingeniuer. But they also want a piece of lower end, "fashion pieces" market. That's where they incur the wrath of the segment of market like teentitan.

Does iwc know or care? I should think they did their sums of the segments they will gain and those they will lose. Time will tell if the approach pays off.

to me authentic big pilot watches are those oversized 55mm german ww2 Beobachtungs-Uhren ("B-Uhr", observers watch) with chronometer grade pocket watch movement, which were manufactured on govt contracts by laco, stowa, wempe, a lange & sohne & yes, iwc.

compare to iwc, i feel laco & stowa stayed truer to their luftwaffe roots as far as the b-uhr dial look is concern, though they've certainly downsized most if not all of their current offerings to a more managable 40mm+ or thereabouts so it can be worn over the wrist instead of a flight jacket.

of course they're using eta & unitas movements for the modern replicas - but hey at least they don't pretend to be something they're not and charge an exhorbitant premium to case an eta movement, plus they preserve the flavour and feel of a true ww2 german pilot watch.

the 55mm version: https://shop.laco.de/en/Limited-Edition-Aviator-Observation-Watch-FL-238831.html

with side case engraving of the original model no FL 23883 and stainless steel back with original style markings.

for your consideration...

 

[TeenTitan01]

Thanks for the informative post. Still stand by my view at the moment though..

To give an example to illustrate my perspective, I think that the rolex day date is a great watch from a great watch company but not something I think I will get because of the towkay image I perceive it portrays, at least locally.

End of the day, luxury watches are an extension of one's perceived values and aesthetics preferences. No right or wrong.

that's why i always recommend the DD, preferably in yellow gold with fluted bezel & president bracelet, to those parvenu brand-whores who needs a "me-too". "look! i've arrived" status symbol, lol, because they and those they want to impress don't know any better and certainly lack the breeding and refinement to even care.

the DD suffers from this unfortunate image because loan sharks, gangsters and their ilk gravitate towards it.

but it's still an nice, iconic watch which i do love in everose gold, same shade dial, dome bezel and an oyster bracelet. but no diamonds. and certainly not the DDII with its disproportionate bezel.

you can opt for a platinum with dome bezel & ice blue dial:

with the classic railway track chapter ring. subtle, restrained & stealth wealth enough for you?