The Watch Thread - Part 8

[Spartanz.]

Paying $6k for a PAM000 is not exactly over the roof.

Speaking of entry , basic pam, they are so hard to buy in pam boutiques, local authorised dealers also don't have.

It's a basic model, so difficult to churn out more ? Rolex subs also being popular, but it is easily available everywhere.

It seems they are deliberately controlling supply, keeping price high

 

[flame2000]

Not just PAM. IWC too.

IWC realized that pple nowadays are not going to pay >$5k for their entry level watches with ETA2892 and $8k for a chronograph with Valjoux 7750 when there are a lot better choices out there.
That's why they are developing these new 42000 & 69000 movements for their entry level watches.
I hope IWC don't start charging even more for their watches. Their watches are already over-priced imo.

 

[fabiaN__]

Speaking of entry , basic pam, they are so hard to buy in pam boutiques, local authorised dealers also don't have.

It's a basic model, so difficult to churn out more ? Rolex subs also being popular, but it is easily available everywhere.

It seems they are deliberately controlling supply, keeping price high

No leh, dropped by AD twice liao, can't find 116610LN...

 

[pwillie]

this is a lot of watch for the money...

my best buy this year.

Would you go for "the citizen" series?

 

[rboyboy]

you can try and bargain down to about 3k or less..

Black bay is good used to have one sold it off..

Movement worth it is subjective.
Whats more important is you like the watch

Because you prefer your Ex2?

 

[iamxinw]

Slacking off at work...

this is getting bad... very poisonous.. yet so farrrrr

 

[Spartanz.]

IWC realized that pple nowadays are not going to pay >$5k for their entry level watches with ETA2892 and $8k for a chronograph with Valjoux 7750 when there are a lot better choices out there.
That's why they are developing these new 42000 & 69000 movements for their entry level watches.
I hope IWC don't start charging even more for their watches. Their watches are already over-priced imo.

gosh,u should check out their new aquatimer series, most over 9k

i am getting back my iwc aquatimer 2000 back from servcing next week with a hefty servicing bill, lets hope with the high cost of servicing, they do not mess up my watch

 

[confusedboi]

Because you prefer your Ex2?

Partially lol, partially also to fund for the north flag without forking out so much cash

 

[chickenbackside]

this is getting bad... very poisonous.. yet so farrrrr

加油！
。。。。。。。

 

[PiPiChew]

IWC realized that pple nowadays are not going to pay >$5k for their entry level watches with ETA2892 and $8k for a chronograph with Valjoux 7750 when there are a lot better choices out there.
That's why they are developing these new 42000 & 69000 movements for their entry level watches.
I hope IWC don't start charging even more for their watches. Their watches are already over-priced imo.

Suddenly Tudor seems "value for money"

Sent from 10 Buangkok View, Buangkok Green Medical Park using GAGT

 

[kiosai]

Monday.. start of the full work week..

 

[DaBenDan]

IWC realized that pple nowadays are not going to pay >$5k for their entry level watches with ETA2892 and $8k for a chronograph with Valjoux 7750 when there are a lot better choices out there.
That's why they are developing these new 42000 & 69000 movements for their entry level watches.
I hope IWC don't start charging even more for their watches. Their watches are already over-priced imo.

Ermm, that's not the reason actually. Main reason is because ETA will stop supplying movements and ebauches to watch companies except those in its parent Swatch Group.

 

[a562140]

Ermm, that's not the reason actually. Main reason is because ETA will stop supplying movements and ebauches to watch companies except those in its parent Swatch Group.

Yeah thats it.

And its no guarantee that it will boost sales long term as costs go up for custom parts and it will be passed to customers as even higher servicing costs

All said, the restriction of ETA movements, the big marketing around in-house I feel will do the industry more harm than good. Aside from costs, customers will be laden with unproven movement designs, with increased risks of part obsolescence in the long run.

The watch reviewers need to step up and educate the public that exclusivity with in-house movements brings with it higher costs and risks.

Also they should improve the level of education on the technical part -e.g. a silicon hairspring prevents magnetism but how often does one watch gets magnetised? how to prevent it and what are the cheap fixes around etc.

and most of all in house movements need to be quantified i.e. % of movements not based on standard designs, % of movements made in house etc. that is true exclusivity and not just marketing hogwash.

 

[a562140]

Would you go for "the citizen" series?

depends on the individual watch i guess. a few of the chronomaster HEQ classic designs are really very nice, however sometimes Citizen lacks the bling that GS does so well.

that said i have 4 citizens right now and the blue diver i posted looks great on the back, so who knows

(not my pic)

 

[patryn33]

Speaking of entry , basic pam, they are so hard to buy in pam boutiques, local authorised dealers also don't have.

It's a basic model, so difficult to churn out more ? Rolex subs also being popular, but it is easily available everywhere.

It seems they are deliberately controlling supply, keeping price high

Deliberately keeping supply low is a known fact.
Base on Unitas mod by soprod in the past not hard at all. For that it's priced high

 

[patryn33]

this is a lot of watch for the money...

my best buy this year.

I am happy with miyota 9xxx series, down side the wobble like the 7750.
Otherwise they great. I am happy with my 9015

 

[Henabi]

a562140... well, providing full details on their "in-house" movements might not happen so soon...

marketing has always been more on the "feel good" factors. Especially for watch brands which originally don't produce their own movements 100%...
Such as Omega, tag heuer, hublot, cartier, chopard, Frank Muller

So for jeweller brands such as CARTIER, Tiffany & Co, Blvgari, Van Cleef and arpels. It's more of making a fashion statement

 

[patryn33]

Paying $6k for a PAM000 is not exactly over the roof.

It's really subjective...
Alpina can make a regulator on Unitas for $3k more mod going in then again they don't have big stars marketing watch. Big stars cost $$

 

[patryn33]

a562140... well, providing full details on their "in-house" movements might not happen so soon...

marketing has always been more on the "feel good" factors. Especially for watch brands which originally don't produce their own movements 100%...
Such as Omega, tag heuer, hublot, cartier, chopard, Frank Muller

So for jeweller brands such as CARTIER, Tiffany & Co, Blvgari, Van Cleef and arpels. It's more of making a fashion statement

Frank muller got their mech movement from who? I thought they in house

 

[Henabi]

Frank muller got their mech movement from who? I thought they in house

well... even though FM gained the status of a "manufacture" in 2006, but for certain components, I'm sure the company still needs to get from other watch manufactures like JLC, ALS and PP or even from Japan