Tips on my FIRST PC?

[shadow84]

Do i need any sound cards? What are it's advantages?

On board soundcard quite good nowadays, no need for soundcard.

 

[colonel701]

Are there any sites that help me assembly?

 

[shadow84]

Are there any sites that help me assembly?

There are shops which can help assemble for u. You can try PM fortran in HWZ, or find for tamjihang in facebook (not sure what's his fb but he lives in the west).

 

[colonel701]

There are shops which can help assemble for u. You can try PM fortran in HWZ, or find for tamjihang in facebook (not sure what's his fb but he lives in the west).

Thanks. BTW, what do you guys store in your SSD other than OS? Also, how much space does the OS take up?

 

[FlyingNuggets]

Thanks. BTW, what do you guys store in your SSD other than OS? Also, how much space does the OS take up?

Os takes up around 20-30gb thats all and the rest is all yours

 

[ykgoh]

Yea, but sim lim doesn't help me physically assemble and no delivery. Also, if my computer breaks down or BSOD,idk what to do. I'm willing to pay extra $200 or so for their services.

If I'm not wrong, if you buy a full rig, I think assembly might be included for free, depending on shops.

With money, anything can be arranged in SLS.

My friend bought a desktop (full rig) at SLS, and was told he needed to wait 2 hours for the assembly. But he needed to rush off, so the shop offered him next-day home delivery on a Saturday for a delivery charge. I think the shop quoted him $20 for the delivery.

Some shops in SLS with an online shopping portal also do home deliveries of PC components to doorstep. So delivery can be arranged as well. If your purchase is above certain amount, maybe even the delivery charge can be waived (free).

 

[ykgoh]

I think that he is using googoo prices, which is more inflated than the prices at some SLS shops.

Yeah, gogo is basically another Cybermind, everything at retail price.

-snip-

 

[addicted-addiction]

Thanks. BTW, what do you guys store in your SSD other than OS? Also, how much space does the OS take up?

store things that you think you will run very frequently i.e. games/photoshop/microsoft office ... etc etc

everything else, get a hdd and name it junk for all your other stuff.

remember to spare at least 10gb of free space in ssd for optimization

 

[royfrosty]

To TS,

Your selection of pc components is way off balance.

Basically in all you would need to do more research on all the parts that you need and what YOU actually need also.

There are a few shops out there doing delivery service. And of all you chose googoo which is literally nothing is cheap there. Their after service is the same as you take your parts and ownself RMA. Cut the middle man and do it yourself. Googoo $2XX service is not gonna warrant any good to pay for. This forum has all the things you need to know about RMA and also the locations of all the distro if things ever go faulty. They even specify the number for you to call.

Here are the few shops that does delivery. Videopro, mynextcomonline, there is even fortran.

2.2k if you balance everything out you could land a very powerful gaming rig. Such as,

MSI B85 G43 Gaming + i5-4460 ~ $384
GSKills Ripjaws 1600mhz 2x4gb kit ~ $115
WD Blue 1tb ~ $67
Crucial mx100 256gb ~ $152
MSI r9 290x 4gb Tri Frozr Lightning edition ~ $899 (Corbell Promo)
Superflower Leadex Gold 650w 80+ Gold Fully modular PSU ~ $149
Corsair Obsidian 450D ~ $169
LG DVD Drive ~ $21
Dell U2414H 23.8inch eIPS Panel ~ $340

Total ~ $2296. Prices quoted from Tradepac pricelist, but for your case i recommend PCthemes, DIY <---- Please refer to my guide if you need any form of help to DIY.

There is 2 ways to go about it. Get a shop to do everything for you and at the end of the day, know nuts about your PC.

OR buy everything yourself and assemble it yourself. You get to know more about your own PC and you get to troubleshoot yourself confidently in the near future if there is anything wrong with your PC.

It is not nuclear science to build one. And you do not require Diploma in electronics, computer to build one. An average joe can build one easily.

Now after reading all this, if you decided to adventure out to DIY pc, please go ahead and try it. You will learn a lot thru the process. Head down to SLS instead and go with PCthemes. They will help you out with all the process.

Also take note that going down to the physical stores are still much better than you buying from online such as mynextcomonline or videopro etc. You get to know more of in store promos that at times are not advertised widely.

 

[colonel701]

To TS,

Your selection of pc components is way off balance.

Basically in all you would need to do more research on all the parts that you need and what YOU actually need also.

There are a few shops out there doing delivery service. And of all you chose googoo which is literally nothing is cheap there. Their after service is the same as you take your parts and ownself RMA. Cut the middle man and do it yourself. Googoo $2XX service is not gonna warrant any good to pay for. This forum has all the things you need to know about RMA and also the locations of all the distro if things ever go faulty. They even specify the number for you to call.

Here are the few shops that does delivery. Videopro, mynextcomonline, there is even fortran.

2.2k if you balance everything out you could land a very powerful gaming rig. Such as,

MSI B85 G43 Gaming + i5-4460 ~ $384
GSKills Ripjaws 1600mhz 2x4gb kit ~ $115
WD Blue 1tb ~ $67
Crucial mx100 256gb ~ $152
MSI r9 290x 4gb Tri Frozr Lightning edition ~ $899 (Corbell Promo)
Superflower Leadex Gold 650w 80+ Gold Fully modular PSU ~ $149
Corsair Obsidian 450D ~ $169
LG DVD Drive ~ $21
Dell U2414H 23.8inch eIPS Panel ~ $340

Total ~ $2296. Prices quoted from Tradepac pricelist, but for your case i recommend PCthemes, DIY <---- Please refer to my guide if you need any form of help to DIY.

There is 2 ways to go about it. Get a shop to do everything for you and at the end of the day, know nuts about your PC.

OR buy everything yourself and assemble it yourself. You get to know more about your own PC and you get to troubleshoot yourself confidently in the near future if there is anything wrong with your PC.

It is not nuclear science to build one. And you do not require Diploma in electronics, computer to build one. An average joe can build one easily.

Now after reading all this, if you decided to adventure out to DIY pc, please go ahead and try it. You will learn a lot thru the process. Head down to SLS instead and go with PCthemes. They will help you out with all the process.

Also take note that going down to the physical stores are still much better than you buying from online such as mynextcomonline or videopro etc. You get to know more of in store promos that at times are not advertised widely.

Why do you recommend the B85? How does it compare to the Z97?

 

[shadow84]

Why do you recommend the B85? How does it compare to the Z97?

B85 gives u all the basics that u need. Z97 is more towards OC and sli/xfire.

 

[colonel701]

B85 gives u all the basics that u need. Z97 is more towards OC and sli/xfire.

Would i be able to OC and sli/xfire in the future just in case?

 

[royfrosty]

Why do you recommend the B85? How does it compare to the Z97?

In layman terms

H81 total stripped down with bare minimum standards needed. Such as dual channel rams, 1 16x pcie slot, and a few connectors behind the rear io.

B85 a slightly more ram slots, more pcie slots, legacy pci slots, certain boards allow crossfire for amd cards at x8/x4 config. More usb ports at the rear i/o. This is mostly where people will land at for a average gaming rig.

h97 gives you raid connections for multiple hdd. In some boards they have 8 sata ports rather than 6 sata ports.

z97 offers all of the above with overclocking features. They also allow sli for nvidia and xfire for amd at x8/x8 config. This will have a number of enthusiast gamers land here to go for dual graphics setup and going for high res gaming.

Now, i know you are thinking about sli or amd xfire in the long run. But if you do not see yourself adding another gpu in within a month or 2. Then pointless to have another card, with more heat output and more power consumption needed. If you are going to do it only after 3 years then totally pointless also. By then the gpu is outdated and a newer gen single card could be as powerful as the 2 cards.

On another thing to add on, dual cards usually run into compatibility issues on new title games. New game title during launch do not have dual graphics support. Forcing users to turn off 1 card first in order to play the game.

Next is the performance of dual cards. Yes you get a certain amount of boost performance. But some games just dont work well with dual cards. Games like battlefield 4. Dual cards at times perform worse than a single card performance.

Frame pacing is another issue. From time to time frame pacing issues are being slowly resolve. Last time amd frame pacing was a pain. Now with bridgeless r9 290 290x and the new 285 have crossfire features without using the bridge. Frame pacing issues have been reduced drastically.

Now whether do you need dual graphics? Yes only if you are going for high res gaming such as 1440p 1600p or 4k res gaming.

Else you just need a b85 board with a powerful single card.

 

[royfrosty]

Would i be able to OC and sli/xfire in the future just in case?

B85 will allow you to oc. But it brings you almost no performance value in terms of gaming.

Things like probably a single digit frames per sec.

Sli or xfire not refer to my post again.

You can crossfire only if you do not mind the 2nd card to underperform at x4 bandwidth. Thats the physical limitations to a b85 chipset.

Sli will not be available on b85 chipset.

 

[halnala]

TS can refer to LinusTechTips on youtube to DIY PC. Linus shows step by step building and cable management.

I have the NZXT Phantom 410 Gunmetal. You may need to remove the swap HDD bay to fit your graphics card so you may want to consider another casing.

 

[colonel701]

I'll be buying the PC in around 6 months time. By then, i think the GPU prices would drop a little, right?

 

[Ark Law]

NZXT Tupperware 410 is a case one should not buy in 2014.

 

[colonel701]

TS can refer to LinusTechTips on youtube to DIY PC. Linus shows step by step building and cable management.

I have the NZXT Phantom 410 Gunmetal. You may need to remove the swap HDD bay to fit your graphics card so you may want to consider another casing.

I only have 2 hard drives, so i think i don't need the swap HDD bay. How is the phantom 410 heating, noise, or any other feedback?

 

[colonel701]

NZXT Tupperware 410 is a case one should not buy in 2014.

Why? And what would you recommend?

 

[royfrosty]

I'll be buying the PC in around 6 months time. By then, i think the GPU prices would drop a little, right?

By then new gen graphics are out. Dont go with just wait for prices to drop. By then all new stuffs come out again.

Buy what you need and what you intend to use.