TP-Link EB810v - Quick overview

[Nashstruck]

Guys bought 2 of these router in my dad’s place - it’s been set up by the trooper as easymesh wifi. But it’s v confusing - there are multiple SSIDs.
There’s a main one which follows the main router, followed by 2 others containing the names of both routers with a “MLO” at the end of it.
Do I use the main one or the MLO one?

 

[JT2008]

Everyday the wireless setting for 5 GHz will auto change channel to 157 and channel width to 80 MHz.
Need to change back to auto,auto.

Any fix?

 

[Apparatus]

Guys bought 2 of these router in my dad’s place - it’s been set up by the trooper as easymesh wifi. But it’s v confusing - there are multiple SSIDs.
There’s a main one which follows the main router, followed by 2 others containing the names of both routers with a “MLO” at the end of it.
Do I use the main one or the MLO one?

Main ones (3 of them) will have support for 2.4 or 5 or 6GHz

MLO is support for combined 2.4 and 5GHz

 

[Apparatus]

With the growing popularity of IoT devices, I have amass up to 70+ clients connected to my Asus Router. Before I switch to Ultraspeed, I wish to know how many wired & wireless clients can the TPLink EB810v support. Does anyone know?

Take these as a guide

https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/stories/detail/1302

https://www.lifewire.com/how-many-devices-can-share-a-wifi-network-818298

Below is a shot taken from TP LINK BE85/BE95 routers. It talks about 200 wireless devices in the lab. Link is below

https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/deco/deco-be85/

Yah, you can have many IoT devices connected but many are just connected and idling...........occupying the wifi network........and may even cause crashes

 

[Henry Ng]

This TP-Link is much better than Nokia ONR.

 

[trenzterra]

With the growing popularity of IoT devices, I have amass up to 70+ clients connected to my Asus Router. Before I switch to Ultraspeed, I wish to know how many wired & wireless clients can the TPLink EB810v support. Does anyone know?

I have not stress tested this but I have 29 clients connected at the moment (4 wired, remaining wireless) without issues. I don't think it will be an issue unless all your IoT devices are using a lot of data at the same time?

 

[kimsix]

Take these as a guide

https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/stories/detail/1302

https://www.lifewire.com/how-many-devices-can-share-a-wifi-network-818298

Yah, you can have many IoT devices connected but many are just connected and idling...........occupying the wifi network........and may even cause crashes

Here put

RAM is also of critical importance. More RAM means more threads, determining how many simultaneous connections your router can support at a given time. For a router with advanced features or firmware, CPU and RAM are very useful.

Owners, how is EB810v interface speeds and good wireless?

Starhub put

The TP-Link EB810v is designed with a powerful 2.2GHz quad core processor and 1GB of RAM to ensure fast transmission speeds.

Did they cheap out in this ISP only router?

 

[Apparatus]

Here put


Owners, how is EB810v interface speeds and good wireless?

Starhub put

Did they cheap out in this ISP only router?

So how much RAM you expect of a similar 22Gbps router? Can give an example of such router?

 

[kimsix]

So how much RAM you expect of a similar 22Gbps router? Can give an example of such router?

2gb should be minimum, that is the specs i see for those with multigig ports.

How is yours eb810v? Smooth as baby skin?

 

[xiaofan]

2gb should be minimum, that is the specs i see for those with multigig ports.

How is yours eb810v? Smooth as baby skin?

Hmm, only a few very high end consumer routers have 2GB RAM. You can not expect a free ISP bundled WiFi 7 router like EB810v to have 2GB RAM.

Example: Asus ROG GT-BE98 Quad-band WiFi 7 router, RT-BE96U Triband WiFi 7 router and ROG GT-AXE16000 quad band WiFi 6E have 2GB RAM
https://rog.asus.com/sg/networking/rog-rapture-gt-be98-model/spec/
https://rog.asus.com/sg/networking/rog-rapture-gt-axe16000-model/spec/
https://www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/wifi-routers/asus-gaming-routers/rt-be96u/techspec/

Majority of high end Asus routers still has 1GB RAM (all high end WiFi 6 models, including 10G capable ones)
https://www.asus.com/sg/networking-iot-servers/wifi-routers/asus-gaming-routers/rt-ax89x/techspec/
https://rog.asus.com/sg/networking/rog-rapture-gt-ax11000-pro-model/spec/

More references of WiFi 7 routers HW spec. BTW, TP-Link does not seem to publish CPU and RAM spec of their WiFi 7 routers, but Archer BE805 is said to have 1GB RAM.
https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/List_of_802.11be_Hardware

 

[trenzterra]

Guys bought 2 of these router in my dad’s place - it’s been set up by the trooper as easymesh wifi. But it’s v confusing - there are multiple SSIDs.
There’s a main one which follows the main router, followed by 2 others containing the names of both routers with a “MLO” at the end of it.
Do I use the main one or the MLO one?

MLO is only if you have Wifi7 devices that support MLO where you can aggregate speeds from three bands. Using it on my Wifi6 devices seem to cap things at 2.4ghz so I have turned it off for now

 

[Apparatus]

Something for the eb810v users

You can see its says

For 6GHz - EHT320
For 5GHz - EHT240
For 2.4Ghz - EHT40

It means if you set the channel for that band the upload speed will be greatly increased. See my below test for 2.4GHz, EHT40

Set at 20MHz

Set at 40MHz EHT40

As for 5/6GHz bands unless you have devices which support 240/320MHz otherwise the EHT would not be realized

 

[Apparatus]

With the growing popularity of IoT devices, I have amass up to 70+ clients connected to my Asus Router. Before I switch to Ultraspeed, I wish to know how many wired & wireless clients can the TPLink EB810v support. Does anyone know?

A few things to add besides those recommended by TP-LINK take a look at the eb810v below

Looking at the 2.4GHz band it says its max speed is 1376Mbps.

Now, looking at the TP-LINK BE85 (WiFi 7 tri-band) spec as below it's the same with 2.4GHz having a max speed of 1376Mbps

https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/deco/deco-be85/#specifications

However, the TP-LINK WiFi 7 quad-band BE95 speaks differently

https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/deco/deco-be95/#specifications

Its 2.4GHz has a max speed of only 1148Mbps

So, if you have many IoT devices operating at 2.4GHz then the eb810v/BE85 is a better choice over the BE95

Band Steering

If your IoT device is dual-band (2.4/5GHz) then your router can band steer the device if it has Band Steering feature. So, even if your router has low 2.4GHz max speed your dual-band devices can still make use of the 5GHz band. With many IoT devices this can be an advantage. The only caveat is that some devices, after band steering, would not return to its original band creating congestion in the new band.

IoT devices placement and band selection is important. If dual-band IoT devices are placed very far from the router or need to go through wall(s) then select 2.4GHz. Some IoT devices work only on 2.4GHz so no choice here. Those dual-band IoT devices which are in direct line-of-sight of the router select 5GHz band

 

[Apparatus]

Does the eb810v supports VLAN? I can't find the settings

 

[xiaofan]

Does the eb810v supports VLAN? I can't find the settings

As far as I know, for consumer routers from Asus, TP-Link, Netgear and Linksys, only higher end Asus WiFi 6 router (using BCM4912 CPU) and WiFi 7 routers (using BCM4916 CPU) have VLAN function.
https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1049415/

Take note we are talking the LAN side, not the WAN side (eg: Singtel VLAN).

 

[Apparatus]

As far as I know, for consumer routers from Asus, TP-Link, Netgear and Linksys, only higher end Asus WiFi 6 router (using BCM4912 CPU) and WiFi 7 routers (using BCM4916 CPU) have VLAN function.
https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1049415/

Take note we are talking the LAN side, not the WAN side (eg: Singtel VLAN).

Is this the one after I enable it? No other settings leh

 

[xiaofan]

Is this the one after I enable it? No other settings leh

This one is for ISPs which requires VLAN on the WAN side (eg: Singtel VLAN, 10 for Internet, 20 for Singtel TV box). You may want to check if there is another place to set up for IPTV.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/1585/

Or maybe this EB810v is too much customized and you do not even see ISP profiles.

 

[Apparatus]

This one is for ISPs which requires VLAN (eg: Singtel VLAN, 10 for Internet, 20 for Singtel TV box). You may want to check if there is another place to set up for IPTV.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/1585/

Or maybe this EB810v is too much customized and you do not even see ISP profiles.

Yup, the 2nd screenshot shows it needs a VLAN ID from my ISP

Nope. No other VLAN settings, ISP Profiles etc

 

[Apparatus]

Shortcomings of the eb810v

1) No VLAN (LAN side) support
2) No WireGuard support for VPN
3) The 10G SFP+ WAN (Combo) port cannot be used. Only can use the 10GE WAN(Combo)/LAN ports
4) Does not come with built-in speedtest
5) EHT (upload speed) not realized for 5/6GHz if devices have no 240/320MHz channel bandwidth support
6) Cannot configure the WAN port into LAN port
7) No free HomeShield
8) Looks like TP-LINK has no support for 5G tethering via its USB port...only 3G/4G unlike ASUS which supports 4G/5G tethering
9) No IoT network and device isolation feature. Device isolation has its caveat though...........imagine the need to manually add and isolate 100 IoT devices.
10) Guest network is useful in that devices on it can’t see or connect to other devices and to the main network. For the IoT network, the devices on it communicate freely with each other. Since the IoT Network could also communicate with devices on the main network, it would be great when you have the Phillip Hue Bridge or Other Smart Hubs wired to the main network for better stability and connection speed.

 

[Mach3.2]

@Apparatus Different niche, ISP supplied routers are designed for the average user, who doesn't need those features you listed out.


That's why there are things like UDM/Firewalla/*Sense/openwrt, they cater to people who require those features.