TP-Link EB810v - Quick overview

[unclecomfort]

6ghz doesn't work very well for my s23u. Generally slower speeds unless v close to the router. I just stick with 5ghz

Mine is worse. Phone gets connected to 6ghz and showing 6e, but somehow, no data movement after few secs.

Everything is smooth again once swap back to 5ghz.

 

[xiaofan]

How about 6ghz? Wonder if it's the configuration that causes my s23+ inability to connect

6ghz doesn't work very well for my s23u. Generally slower speeds unless v close to the router. I just stick with 5ghz

Mine is worse. Phone gets connected to 6ghz and showing 6e, but somehow, no data movement after few secs.

Everything is smooth again once swap back to 5ghz.

I believe this is a known issue of Galaxy S23 Ultra. S24 Ultra supports WiFi 7 and 6GHz properly.

Right now 6GHz should be quite okay and there should be not much interferences from the neighbours, so I think it is okay to push for 320MHz channel bandwidth and use automatic channel.

 

[tsammyc]

Can TP-link EB810v mesh to TP-Link Archer BE230?
I understand TP-link EB810v uses Aginet app, so I not sure how to mesh with it to TP-Link Archer BE230.
Anyone had this done before? Must I use Aginet app for both or Easymesh app?

Should work. I've gotten the Starhub HB710 (Aginet) to mesh with the BE230 (Tether). I just plugged a brand new HB710 (LAN port) into an existing EasyMesh of BE230s' and turned it on. Took about 2 mins to become an EasyMesh satellite without using any apps or even accessing the web interface:

Finally got to test WiFi 6E (6Ghz AX 160Mhz) on my MacBook Air M3. Bad news is that receiving on 6Ghz is only about 1.1Gbps whereas 5 Ghz AX 160Mhz on the HB710 is consistently 1.7Gbps. Would be interested in other people's experience with 6Ghz on these TP-Link routers. Unless I acquire a WiFi 7 device to use the 320Mhz, I'm better off with the BE230, which is also about 100Mbps faster on 5Ghz. Since people are selling the HB710 on Carousell for more than the $192 I paid today....

 

[LamerLow]

Not sure if this asked before.

I have a EB810 and HB710.

EB810 is in a DB box near my main entrance which means my master bedroom is having weak signal which is why i am looking to add in the HB710 to improve the Signal.

So the connection goes like this

Starhub Modem > EB810 Wan port > EB810 10G lanport > HB710 WAN port

Is there any setup i need to do to see the HB710 in the Aignet app?

I just moved to a new place and the data port are not labeled so it could be i'm connecting to the wrong lan point. I might try a direct connect tomorrow to try.

 

[tsammyc]

Not sure if this asked before.

I have a EB810 and HB710.

EB810 is in a DB box near my main entrance which means my master bedroom is having weak signal which is why i am looking to add in the HB710 to improve the Signal.

So the connection goes like this

Starhub Modem > EB810 Wan port > EB810 10G lanport > HB710 WAN port

Is there any setup i need to do to see the HB710 in the Aignet app?

I just moved to a new place and the data port are not labeled so it could be i'm connecting to the wrong lan point. I might try a direct connect tomorrow to try.

This is what worked for me as the simplest way to link two EasyMesh routers like the EB810 and HB710. Once you get the EB810 working i.e., connect it to the ONT (what you call Starhub Modem), to set up the mesh, connect the LAN port from the EB810 to HB710 LAN port (I used this instead of the HB710 WAN port) with a Cat 6 or greater cable. If the HB710 is brand new out of box, after you hook it up and power it up, it should configure as an EasyMesh satellite without the Aginet app. If you have already been fiddling with it, i.e., not fresh out of the box, hold down the reset switch on the bottom for 5s.

In my case, I linked an EasyMesh of BE230s' to the HB710 this way

 

[tsammyc]

I managed to log on to the HB710 main page by using the password at the bottom of the router. Can run speedtest and look at various things, but can't really configure because it is an EasyMesh satellite.

 

[xiaofan]

Should work. I've gotten the Starhub HB710 (Aginet) to mesh with the BE230 (Tether). I just plugged a brand new HB710 (LAN port) into an existing EasyMesh of BE230s' and turned it on. Took about 2 mins to become an EasyMesh satellite without using any apps or even accessing the web interface:

Finally got to test WiFi 6E (6Ghz AX 160Mhz) on my MacBook Air M3. Bad news is that receiving on 6Ghz is only about 1.1Gbps whereas 5 Ghz AX 160Mhz on the HB710 is consistently 1.7Gbps. Would be interested in other people's experience with 6Ghz on these TP-Link routers. Unless I acquire a WiFi 7 device to use the 320Mhz, I'm better off with the BE230, which is also about 100Mbps faster on 5Ghz. Since people are selling the HB710 on Carousell for more than the $192 I paid today....

So TP-Link Tether app can see the HB710 as an EasyMesh node.

Maybe you want to carry out an experiment and use HB710 (Aginet) as the main router and then the BE230 as the mesh node. Then you can check whether you can see the BE230 in the Aginet app or not.

I tend to think the Aginet app is the limiting factor here and that is why Starhub wants people to mesh Aginet based service provider only even though they are also supporting EasyMesh.

 

[barbarianboy]

Thanks @tsammyc for the further insights to test this method.

I've read the latest posts above and wanted to know if wireless backhaul method works as well?

Cause my dad's place is an old resale HDB flat. I know wired backhaul is best but quite on a budget to install another LAN port in his master room for the TP-Link Archer BE230.

And @xiaofan has a good point to test with Aginet as well.

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[tsammyc]

So TP-Link Tether app can see the HB710 as an EasyMesh node.

Maybe you want to carry out an experiment and use HB710 (Aginet) as the main router and then the BE230 as the mesh node. Then you can check whether you can see the BE230 in the Aginet app or not.

I tend to think the Aginet app is the limiting factor here and that is why Starhub wants people to mesh Aginet based service provider only even though they are also supporting EasyMesh.

I did consider switching the HB710 to the main router, but my main issue currently is that the Starhub Aginet routers HB710 and 810v do not support the Wireguard VPN server, which I need. They support OpenVpN, which is too slow for my needs. Currently, I get very good performance from the BE230 with Wireguard VPN server. Perhaps TP-Link will update their Starhub routers to newer firmware that supports Wireguard soon.

I am almost certain that the BE230s' will be seen by the HB710 as satellites if it is the main router. EasyMesh works seamlessly among TP-Link routers with the latest firmware.

 

[tsammyc]

Thanks @tsammyc for the further insights to test this method.

I've read the latest posts above and wanted to know if wireless backhaul method works as well?

Cause my dad's place is an old resale HDB flat. I know wired backhaul is best but quite on a budget to install another LAN port in his master room for the TP-Link Archer BE230.

And @xiaofan has a good point to test with Aginet as well.

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So I unplugged the LAN cable from the HB710 and rebooted it. It instantly became a wireless backhaul router. The BE230 main router now shows the following:

So 710 to BE230 works well. In fact, plugging a Mac into the 10Gbps port of the HB710, I can see that the backhaul is at the BE230's maximum connection rate of 2,882 Mbps. Effective connection rate (at 10cm) is over 2Gbps. If you haven't bought the BE230 yet, look on Carousell. I bought them for $100 BNIB in sealed box

 

[tsammyc]

@barbarianboy , do note that the HB710 is just $192 from Starhub, so you may want to consider spending the extra $92 if you haven't bought the BE230, to get another HB710. Reason is that you should be able to get 6Ghz 320Mhz wireless backhaul, which will increase the speed of the wireless backhaul to 4Gbps

Note that you need a NRIC from someone who has a Starhub 5 or 10Gbps broadband to buy at HB710 at a Starhub shop

 

[barbarianboy]

@barbarianboy , do note that the HB710 is just $192 from Starhub, so you may want to consider spending the extra $92 if you haven't bought the BE230, to get another HB710. Reason is that you should be able to get 6Ghz 320Mhz wireless backhaul, which will increase the speed of the wireless backhaul to 4Gbps

Note that you need a NRIC from someone who has a Starhub 5 or 10Gbps broadband to buy at HB710 at a Starhub shop

Ok got it. Nope I haven't bought the BE230. May help my Dad get the HB710 from Starhub since his BB is using Starhub. Thanks

 

[tsammyc]

Interesting point to note: HB710 on TP-Link Singapore website has two versions SGSH and SGMRP. Given it is a service provider model, I assume SGSH is Starhub version and SGMRP is My Republic version. My Republic offers the HB710 with its $49.99 10Gbps plan ($50 topup for the HB710).

https://myrepublic.net/sg/10gbps/

I just checked the HB710 I bought from Starhub for $192 and it is labeled SGMRP. So Starhub sells the My Republic version

 

[MArVeLIciOUS888]

1) 2.4GHz band: 20 MHz channel bandwidth, automatic channel selection.

40MHz channel bandwidth is not recommended here in Singapore, due to heavy congestions of 2.4GHz band in typical Singapore household.

If you don't like automatically channel selection, then use a WiFi analyzer to check the congestion from time to time and change accordingly.

2) 5GHz band, either 80MHz or 160MHz channel bandwidth can be used, depending on the interferences from the neighbours.

If you do not live near the airports, you can use DFS channels.

If you don't like automatically channel selection, then use a WiFi analyzer to check the congestion from time to time and change the channel configuration accordingly.

3) Personally I have two APs at home, Asus TUF-BE6500 uses CH60 (DFS channel) and 160MHz channel bandwidth. Asus RT-AX86U uses CH149 and 80MHz channel bandwidth.

I use WiFi analyzer apps from time to time to check if there are problems or not. Since I live in older 4-room HDB flat (year 1998, 106sqm), with thick walls, 5GHz band interferences from the neighbours are not too bad.

I usually disable 2.4GHz band on one AP (TUF-BE6500) and only enable 2.4GHz on the other AP (RT-AX86U).

But now I enable 2.4GHz on both APs since I want to test MLO performance and IoT guest network function of the TUF-BE6500.

Thanks xiaofan, I will try these settings.

Weirdly, the wired LAN connections had also been dropping during this period. Is this normal ie both wireless and wired connections being affected (drop internet connections) by wireless settings?

 

[xiaofan]

Thanks xiaofan, I will try these settings.

Weirdly, the wired LAN connections had also been dropping during this period. Is this normal ie both wireless and wired connections being affected (drop internet connections) by wireless settings?

No. Something else is wrong. You may want to check the Ethernet cable on the WAN side (between ONT and EB810v).

If you are sure the cable is okay, it could also be the issue with Nokia ONT. There have been a few reports of quality issues of Nokia XGS-PON ONT from Starhub and MR users.

 

[Lemon1973]

Good morning bro/sis

Currently on starhub 10g plan but had been using my old Asus routers. Maybe too many devices connected to the home network liao, my wife has been complaining of dropped calls and no network while she WFH.
Think it's time to change to WiFi 7..haha

Anyway since Asus is still too expensive for now. I am thinking of buying either EB810v or hb710 from starhub. If I only use WiFi mesh at home. Any difference between the 2 please?
Thank you for any valuable advice

 

[salmonella]

If you buy multiple EB810v from starhub to have wired backhaul for the eashmesh wifi,

1. is the WAN Combo SFP+/10GE port usable? I would prefer to use the SFP+ and configured it as another LAN port. Or am I restricted to use the existing LAN 10GE port only?

2. how do you patch these devices?
a. I can't see any downloads from TP-Link website for this model, so updates must come from starhub?
b. I guess that the node acting as the router can get updates from starhub via TR-069 or something. How about all the internal easymesh nodes? Will patches be distributed by the router?
c. what happens if I switch from starhub to another ISP?
d. How many years will the EB810v be supported for?

 

[xiaofan]

If you buy multiple EB810v from starhub to have wired backhaul for the eashmesh wifi,

1. is the WAN Combo SFP+/10GE port usable? I would prefer to use the SFP+ and configured it as another LAN port. Or am I restricted to use the existing LAN 10GE port only?

2. how do you patch these devices?
a. I can't see any downloads from TP-Link website for this model, so updates must come from starhub?
b. I guess that the node acting as the router can get updates from starhub via TR-069 or something. How about all the internal easymesh nodes? Will patches be distributed by the router?
c. what happens if I switch from starhub to another ISP?
d. How many years will the EB810v be supported for?

1. It is a combo WAN port, you can either use the SFP+ port or the RJ45 port, not at the same time. So it it makes sense to use the RJ45 port for the main EB810v -- to connect it to the ONT 10G LAN port. Then the SFP+ port is useless.

The LAN port of the main EB810v router is a 10G RJ45 port. In this case, for the mesh node, it makes to use the RJ45 port as WAN port as well -- to connect it to the 10G LAN port (RJ45) of the main EB810v.

If you use your own wired 10G capable router, eg, the cheaper Alta Labs Route10, then you can use EB810v as an AP and use the SFP+ WAN port -- say, use a DAC cable between Route 10 to the EB810v.

2. There is a report from M1 user saying that he can get the FW updates for the EB810v. YMMV.

No idea if the update server is located under Starhub network or TP-Link network.

If the main node can get the updates from the update server, then the mesh nodes should be work as well.

My recommendation is not to use EB810v/HB710 if you are not using Starhub. But that is just my personal opinion.

3. As of now, TP-Link Singapore only mentions that EB810v SH version will be supported at least until 31-Mar-2028. HB710 SH version will be supported at least until 31-Oct-2027. HB710 MR version and HB810 Singtel version will be at least until 31-Jul-2027. Take note Singtel HB810 version has the highest Level 4 classification.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3182/
https://www.csa.gov.sg/our-programm...-list?manufacturer=tp-link&sort=newest-oldest

Duration of Security Support
a) TP-Link will provide security update support to the following products up to 31Mar 2028, and extended support may be provided after the stated date.
EB810v(SGSH)

b) TP-Link will provide security update support to the following products up to 31 Oct 2027, and extended support may be provided after the stated date.

EX520
HB410(SGSH)
HB710(SGSH)

c) TP-Link will provide security update support to the following products up to 31th Jul 2027, and extended support may be provided after the stated date.

HB710(SGMRP)
HB611-SGST
HB810 (Level 4, Singtel)

 

[tsammyc]

If you buy multiple EB810v from starhub to have wired backhaul for the eashmesh wifi,

1. is the WAN Combo SFP+/10GE port usable? I would prefer to use the SFP+ and configured it as another LAN port. Or am I restricted to use the existing LAN 10GE port only?

2. how do you patch these devices?
a. I can't see any downloads from TP-Link website for this model, so updates must come from starhub?
b. I guess that the node acting as the router can get updates from starhub via TR-069 or something. How about all the internal easymesh nodes? Will patches be distributed by the router?
c. what happens if I switch from starhub to another ISP?
d. How many years will the EB810v be supported for?

I'm using the HB710 as a mesh node on my My Republic 3Gbps. I bought it from Starhub NEX and it was labeled HB710(SGMRP). The moment I plugged it into my LAN, and turned it on, the update firmware light started flashing. This was before I configured it as a mesh node. So it seems to update firmware automatically no matter what ISP you plug it into. Later I went into its WEB interface and there is a place where you can enquire and update firmware. It has a 4-year warranty, but it's not from Starhub but from TP-Link. Starhub told me specifically to contact TP-Link if there were any problems, not them. Note that my other TP-Link products only have a 3-year warranty.

My view is that for $192 or $168 less than the $360 for an EB810v, it's a no brainer to get the HB710 router instead of the EB810v. As a BE18000 router, it has the 6Ghz 320Mhz channel and two 10Gbe ports. Pretty much all you get for another $168 is a few 2.5gbps ports. You can always add a 2.5Gbe switch to the HB710. Nothing else on the market is remotely close to this price and most routers that do 6Ghz 320Mhz costs around $800+.

However, do note that both the HB710 and the EB810v run slightly different firmware than retail TP-Link routers. The Aginet software is kind of enterprise software. However, even though it is different, anyone who can figure out the retail firmware should be able to figure this out. It also uses a different phone app. The firmware is also updated more slowly and the Aginet routers have not implemented recently introduced Wireguard VPN protocol. Aginet only have Open VPN and some lesser protocols.

 

[salmonella]

1. It is a combo WAN port, you can either use the SFP+ port or the RJ45 port, not at the same time. So it it makes sense to use the RJ45 port for the main EB810v -- to connect it to the ONT 10G LAN port. Then the SFP+ port is useless.

The LAN port of the main EB810v router is a 10G RJ45 port. In this case, for the mesh node, it makes to use the RJ45 port as WAN port as well -- to connect it to the 10G LAN port (RJ45) of the main EB810v.

If you use your own wired 10G capable router, eg, the cheaper Alta Labs Route10, then you can use EB810v as an AP and use the SFP+ WAN port -- say, use a DAC cable between Route 10 to the EB810v.

Thanks. The reason I asked this was because someone on pg 1 claimed that the EB810v's combo WAN/LAN port has reduced functionality, i.e. cannot use SFP+ and cannot use as LAN. So it seems like it is indeed a Combo WAN port (ie either SFP+ or 10GE option can be used, but only as a WAN port).

3. As of now, TP-Link Singapore only mentions that EB810v SH version will be supported at least until 31-Mar-2028. HB710 SH version will be supported at least until 31-Oct-2027. HB710 MR version and HB810 Singtel version will be at least until 31-Jul-2027. Take note Singtel HB810 version has the highest Level 4 classification.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3182/
https://www.csa.gov.sg/our-programm...-list?manufacturer=tp-link&sort=newest-oldest

Thanks for info and I'd never have thought of checking CSA labelling scheme for this.

I'm using the HB710 as a mesh node on my My Republic 3Gbps. I bought it from Starhub NEX and it was labeled HB710(SGMRP). The moment I plugged it into my LAN, and turned it on, the update firmware light started flashing. This was before I configured it as a mesh node. So it seems to update firmware automatically no matter what ISP you plug it into. Later I went into its WEB interface and there is a place where you can enquire and update firmware. It has a 4-year warranty, but it's not from Starhub but from TP-Link. Starhub told me specifically to contact TP-Link if there were any problems, not them. Note that my other TP-Link products only have a 3-year warranty.

My view is that for $192 or $168 less than the $360 for an EB810v, it's a no brainer to get the HB710 router instead of the EB810v. As a BE18000 router, it has the 6Ghz 320Mhz channel and two 10Gbe ports. Pretty much all you get for another $168 is a few 2.5gbps ports. You can always add a 2.5Gbe switch to the HB710. Nothing else on the market is remotely close to this price and most routers that do 6Ghz 320Mhz costs around $800+.

However, do note that both the HB710 and the EB810v run slightly different firmware than retail TP-Link routers. The Aginet software is kind of enterprise software. However, even though it is different, anyone who can figure out the retail firmware should be able to figure this out. It also uses a different phone app. The firmware is also updated more slowly and the Aginet routers have not implemented recently introduced Wireguard VPN protocol. Aginet only have Open VPN and some lesser protocols.

Thanks, that's super useful info.

So strange that you bought from the Starhub shop and received an MyRepublic model... And you could buy a BE18000 mesh node for just $192? That's a steal!

Actually, I was thinking of using a bunch of BPI-R4 with BE14000 wifi7 to DIY an openwrt mesh using wired backhaul and 802.11r. It would certainly be the most work, likely give the most wifi headaches and require the most effort to maintain. And each BPI-R4 is half the price of a retail wifi7 router/AP. Patches will likely be available longest.

Then I thought if i used Starhub as ISP, why not just use their EB810v instead at $360 each. BE22000, commercially supported easymesh tech.

But with your inputs, I should really just buy a bunch of HB710 (SGSH or SGMRP). $192 for BE19000, easymesh and patches. I can use these as APs and run openwrt as the main router to have maximum router config flexibility and supported wifi. (The only problem is that the HB710 only has 10GE copper ports, and I was planning to convert my structured cabling to fiber runs...)