UST no longer safe haven?

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all those attempts to undermine china within asean looks a bad idea (with hindsight ofc :unsure:)



Treasuries are getting ****ing bulldozed in the Asia session right now.
4.35% on the 10Y right now.
Zero safe haven bid into bonds right now. Zero.
 

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it continues



Dollar getting pounded -2% while long bonds yields fly upwards. You NEVER see that. That’s third world country ****. Wall Street telling Trump you either deescalate voluntarily or we will deescalate involuntarily for you.
 

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Donald Trump was in full blown panic mode on Wednesday, as he got on Truth Social and fired off a series of posts about how amazing the economy is doing in a matter of minutes. Trump was widely mocked all across the internet for his panic attack, and some even pointed out that he sounded like he was making a pathetic sales pitch as a used car salesman as he begged foreign companies to come into the United States. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains what happened.
 

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:ROFLMAO:



Trump now backing down from mass deportations for undocumented immigrants in the farming and hotel industry.
 

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Where is the selling coming from? Answer: Europe

Don't think China holdings $800bn are enough to really influence the price significantly, unless all dumped at one go. Daily traded volume is a similar size. Clearly it wouldn't be bullish, but don't think China's the smoking gun, at least not alone.

You're not seeing the impact on CNH forwards that you would expect if PBOC was the one selling it from it's balance sheets. Given the move in EUR and CHF, I would argue it's flows from out of dollar assets into EUR and CHF denominated assets.
 

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That was the day before.
Stops got hit in Japan.
This is the next day's selling
 

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not just the canadians are boycotting ...



european tourism to the united states: freefalling

best approach given things are becoming very odd in the usa



"All foreign nationals present in the United States longer than 30 days must register with the federal government. Failure to comply with this is a crime punishable by fines, imprisonment, or both... If not, you will be arrested, fined, deported, never to return to our country again."
 

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Below and attached are from the
@FT article, “liquidity worsens in the $29 trillion Treasury market as volatility soars:” “Analysts at JPMorgan said market depth, a measure of the market’s ability to absorb large trades without significant shifts in price, had significantly worsened this week, meaning even small trades were moving yields significantly.”
 

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Nothing but heavy selling in the bond market for the first 15 minutes of futures to start the week. Something is going to break sooner than later.
 

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china , no/poor blood spirit, xjp dovish,
look at canucks and danes, see the blood in the water, start to circle



Canadian and Danish institutional investors are, umm, reconsidering the extent of their exposure to the United States.
 

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if xjp dun slap export tax on china goods trump exempt from tarrifs, means he dovish, understand?
 

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different ways of debasing debt



What’s being proposed: The U.S. Treasury is floating the idea of buying back older debt securities. This is essentially a form of yield curve intervention a tool to inject liquidity, support market function, or steer duration risk away from the private sector. This is not QE in the traditional sense, as the Fed isn’t involved (yet), but it could mimic QE’s impact if executed at scale via Treasury General Account (TGA) funds or issuance reshuffling.

⸻ Cross-Market Correlation: 1.UST Market Stress: Bid-ask spreads on off-the-run Treasuries have widened recently. Dealers are congested with old, illiquid paper. Treasury buybacks could relieve that. 2.TGA Constraints: The TGA (as of April 14, 2025) is low. This limits the scope unless financed by new issuance effectively duration swaps (sell short, buy long). 3.CDS Divergences: Sovereign CDS (e.g., Italy, Japan) show elevated default hedging. A Treasury buyback would signal the U.S. is trying to avoid its own long-end spiral. 4.VIX & Bond Vol: Volatility in both equity and bond markets is elevated. Buybacks could be an attempt to “numb the tail” on long-duration asset repricing.

⸻ Underlying Strategic Motive: This is not about reducing debt. It’s about: •Smoothing the maturity wall (over $9 trillion maturing by April 2026) •Reducing dealer inventory friction (old bonds clog repo pipes) •Steering private capital into the short end (to maintain auction demand) •Front-running fiscal illiquidity panic in an election year (via optics of “market management”) It’s a form of stealth liquidity management, likely in lieu of Fed QE, with optics more palatable to a politically divided Congress.

⸻ Weaknesses in my argument: Weakness 1: Without new TGA funds, where does the Treasury get the cash to buy long-duration debt? The only answer: short-duration issuance, which worsens rollover risk. Weakness 2: Historical failures Japan did versions of this with limited effect. It staves off panic, but doesn’t solve demand structure fragility in sovereign debt markets. Weakness 3: Might trigger unintended market interpretation: “Why are they buying back? Is liquidity breaking?” and exacerbate long-duration selling. My Base Case: This makes sense if used narrowly to unclog market plumbing and manage the steepest maturity wall in U.S. history. It signals that the Treasury is aware of systemic risks that aren’t yet fully priced in. How I could be wrong: If buybacks are funded via new issuance, they solve nothing and increase rollover vulnerability. If funded via TGA drawdown, they risk depleting liquidity before a crisis hits. If they signal panic, they might accelerate foreign selling. Yes, it “makes sense” but only in a narrow, tactical window. This is a liquidity plumbing tool, not a cure for fiscal stress. If the TGA can’t fund it, it risks turning into a dangerous shell game. The real story? The Treasury knows the long end is fragile and it’s quietly trying to put a floor under dysfunction before the headlines catch up
 

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For years when U.S. stocks went down foreign stocks went down too. But tonight most foreign stocks are up, many are making new 52-week highs, despite today's huge selloff in U.S. stocks. That's because money is moving from U.S. stocks into non-U.S. stocks. This is the new normal.
 
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