Wax vs Ceramic Coating!

Do you....

  • Wax your car

    Votes: 9 27.3%
  • Ceramic coat your car

    Votes: 24 72.7%

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BrOwnTeddy

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I guess need to go with a torchlight to check for bad coatings?

EJB, correct me if I am wrong but I am guessing the places that MOST 'detailers' would jiak zua (and for us to catch) are:
- Top Roof
- Side Skirt
- Front Bumper
 

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Leather or dash/plastic coating.. Not important to me. I also dislike having an oily / sticky or cloudy film on top of these surfaces. I rather have fumigation (for pests) and steam clean.

Let us know how the exterior coating goes! :o
Car haven't come yet, so hunting for quotations as well as detailers. :D

Since my car collection is on Saturday, most probably I'll send it in on Monday morning then collect in the evening, else its pick up on Tuesday evening liao. :spin: Don't want too long a downtime, fetch kids and stuff, can go crazy one.
 

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still cant guess what is this shop name :s22::s22:

https://www.sgcarmart.com/directory/listing.php?CAT=3 They are at the first page results.

I guess need to go with a torchlight to check for bad coatings?

EJB, correct me if I am wrong but I am guessing the places that MOST 'detailers' would jiak zua (and for us to catch) are:
- Top Roof
- Side Skirt
- Front Bumper

Not sure how you can use torchlight to try and see something that is invisible (the coating). If you observe any swirls/scratches/paint defects, that is before the application of the coating. If the detailer offered to touch up prior to the coating as part of their package, you may bang table, otherwise these should be rectified by your AD/dealer first when you collect your car.

Ceramic coating provides mainly two benefits, 1) ability for water to bead and sheet easily, 2) self-healing of scratches, so you would want to verify these two properties.

1) Get the detailer to use pressure washer to spray water over the coated exterior. You should see that water beads are formed readily (beading) and flows very quickly towards the ground (sheeting).

2) Apply some scratches and apply heat (hair dryer) to the scratched area. You should observe the healing effect and the scratches will disappear.

Coating needs time to cure. I think you have to manage expectation if you intend to collect your car on the same day.

 

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https://www.sgcarmart.com/directory/listing.php?CAT=3 They are at the first page results.



Not sure how you can use torchlight to try and see something that is invisible (the coating). If you observe any swirls/scratches/paint defects, that is before the application of the coating. If the detailer offered to touch up prior to the coating as part of their package, you may bang table, otherwise these should be rectified by your AD/dealer first when you collect your car.

Ceramic coating provides mainly two benefits, 1) ability for water to bead and sheet easily, 2) self-healing of scratches, so you would want to verify these two properties.

1) Get the detailer to use pressure washer to spray water over the coated exterior. You should see that water beads are formed readily (beading) and flows very quickly towards the ground (sheeting).

2) Apply some scratches and apply heat (hair dryer) to the scratched area. You should observe the healing effect and the scratches will disappear.

Coating needs time to cure. I think you have to manage expectation if you intend to collect your car on the same day.

Ohhh kk got it. Wow so many good review haha.

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I guess need to go with a torchlight to check for bad coatings?

EJB, correct me if I am wrong but I am guessing the places that MOST 'detailers' would jiak zua (and for us to catch) are:
- Top Roof
- Side Skirt
- Front Bumper

I tend to carry a portable torch with me everywhere I go in the event I need it (spoilt public toilet lights etc) and often I do, like checking undercarriage (on CTE) for flapping sounds, and finding things in the car where cabin lights don't reach.

So yes, I do use the torchlight to shine at different angles to check the coating evenness and also fine lines. Light at different angles yields different views, so a torch helps. That's what I did at EA detailer, I carried torch in my bag, so after seeing the end result, I began to check carefully, and found it unsatisfactory.

You can ask Smart Details, the first time I went, I also personally check the car, very minor defects which could be rectified in a few minutes. Though it's not what I expected, but honestly they met a standard which I would call it 'proud' vs what a lot of other detailers would give or told me they can't do over the chat/phone.

My original coating from EA, they missed out the door area, some patches, uneven and looks like nothing was done on it. Infact, I DIY wash and wax looked better.

The fine lines appear mostly at the boot, doors and top somehow, the bonnet, not so much, I guess detailers try to make it look nice at the bonnet and everybody just forgets about the rest of the car?

Top wise, it's hard to cut and achieve perfection as most of us aren't taller than the car, so I tend to close an eye there also.

I sent in my car last week as water marks had started to eat into my bonnet coating after 1.5 years - due to rain drying after driving and the engine bay is hot. At certain angles with light, you can see it, and at certain angles you can't, so a torchlight helps.

When Smart Details delivered, he was able to tell me how bad each part was and where he spent more time - which is true, because I wash the car weekly and I know exactly where the problems are. In short, he was able to catch the details.

My sis under my recommendation also sent her Harrier to Smart Details, red, turned out nice.

I don't go to others because I found a workshop that can deliver what I expect (or close to) and the reason I chose them was when I talked to the boss, the first reply was 'come on over, let me see the car first then I can advise you if what you want, I can do it' - not 'aiyah, what you want cannot la, impossible'.

I really dunno how some can call themselves detailers these days... I rather call them 'hit-n-run'.
 

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I guess need to go with a torchlight to check for bad coatings?

EJB, correct me if I am wrong but I am guessing the places that MOST 'detailers' would jiak zua (and for us to catch) are:
- Top Roof
- Side Skirt
- Front Bumper

Make sure they remove headlamps and tail lamps and door handles before do coatings?
 

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Gyeon Quartz for coating.

How good the product is, also depends on how good the groomer is able to do it properly. You can claim to use the best, but then anyhow do, good also become lousy.

Just like buying top wagyu/kobe beef, but cook until the beef is all hard and over done, or fry with rice, you're just wasting the materials.
Gyeon quartz got 2 which one you take?

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Anyone went blackxxxx before?

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EJB, correct me if I am wrong but I am guessing the places that MOST 'detailers' would jiak zua (and for us to catch) are:
- Top Roof
- Side Skirt
- Front Bumper

lol even I diy wash also jiak zua for roof

i use ladder also got trouble cleaning :s34:
 

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Gyeon quartz got 2 which one you take?

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Forgot liao, the coating is only good if the applicator is good, if not the best coating will become useless at lousy hands.
 

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I tend to carry a portable torch with me everywhere I go in the event I need it (spoilt public toilet lights etc) and often I do, like checking undercarriage (on CTE) for flapping sounds, and finding things in the car where cabin lights don't reach.

So yes, I do use the torchlight to shine at different angles to check the coating evenness and also fine lines. Light at different angles yields different views, so a torch helps. That's what I did at EA detailer, I carried torch in my bag, so after seeing the end result, I began to check carefully, and found it unsatisfactory.

You can ask Smart Details, the first time I went, I also personally check the car, very minor defects which could be rectified in a few minutes. Though it's not what I expected, but honestly they met a standard which I would call it 'proud' vs what a lot of other detailers would give or told me they can't do over the chat/phone.

My original coating from EA, they missed out the door area, some patches, uneven and looks like nothing was done on it. Infact, I DIY wash and wax looked better.

The fine lines appear mostly at the boot, doors and top somehow, the bonnet, not so much, I guess detailers try to make it look nice at the bonnet and everybody just forgets about the rest of the car?

Top wise, it's hard to cut and achieve perfection as most of us aren't taller than the car, so I tend to close an eye there also.

I sent in my car last week as water marks had started to eat into my bonnet coating after 1.5 years - due to rain drying after driving and the engine bay is hot. At certain angles with light, you can see it, and at certain angles you can't, so a torchlight helps.

When Smart Details delivered, he was able to tell me how bad each part was and where he spent more time - which is true, because I wash the car weekly and I know exactly where the problems are. In short, he was able to catch the details.

My sis under my recommendation also sent her Harrier to Smart Details, red, turned out nice.

I don't go to others because I found a workshop that can deliver what I expect (or close to) and the reason I chose them was when I talked to the boss, the first reply was 'come on over, let me see the car first then I can advise you if what you want, I can do it' - not 'aiyah, what you want cannot la, impossible'.

I really dunno how some can call themselves detailers these days... I rather call them 'hit-n-run'.

Ownself wash cheaper lah. :s13: 20c only.

But if Smart Details can meet that level of standard, guess its worth getting a quotation for coating from them also.
 

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Forgot liao, the coating is only good if the applicator is good, if not the best coating will become useless at lousy hands.
Can pm me how much you pay? If you don't mind?

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Ownself wash cheaper lah. :s13: 20c only.

But if Smart Details can meet that level of standard, guess its worth getting a quotation for coating from them also.
Ownself wash is 40c, 20c to wash, 20c to rinse.
 

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Just collected my car after dropping it yesterday afternoon for coating, it was inside the shop for about 26 hours:

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Just collected my car after dropping it yesterday afternoon for coating, it was inside the shop for about 26 hours:

MYEg7sy.jpg
Wow very nice! Very gloss. Red is the best color.

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