WiFi 7 routers (including WiFi 7 routers without 6GHz band support)

[EdmOkh]

1. No so sure where is your study room. The above floor plan shows MBR, BR2, BR3, BR4, BR5 and Living Room.

2, WC uses ONR. Not so sure which ONR you get. No big difference though.
ZTE F8648P ONR --> one 10G LAN port and four 1G LAN ports
Nokia XS-240X-A ONR --> one 10G LAN port and three 1G LAN port

3. HB710 can work with other ISPs.

But I am not so sure if HB710 supports TP-Link Easymesh in AP mode or not. You may want to check with TP-Link Singapore.

Reference: TP-Link EasyMesh in AP mode
https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/697572

The problem is that TP-Link HB710 (or EB810v or HB810 or HB410 or HB611-SGST) are TP-Link service provider models and the support is not as good as consumer models (less FW features, less frequent FW bug fixes). That being said, HB710 seems to be pretty stable and I like it myself (used as the main router for Starhub 5Gbps plan but I am not using a mesh).

3.1) Option 1
If HB710 supports EasyMesh in AP mode, then you can start with two HB710 first to see how it goes.

WC ONR 10G LAN port --> Living room LAN port --> main HB710 in AP mode
WC ONR 1G LAN port --> MBR LAN port or BR3 LAN port --> second HB710 in AP mode

You may need three HB710 if two does not work well.

WC ONR 10G LAN port --> Living room LAN port --> main HB710 in AP mode
WC ONR 1G LAN port --> MBR LAN port --> second HB710
WC ONR 1G LAN port --> BR4 LAN port --> third HB710

3.2) Option 2
If HB710 does not support EasyMesh in AP mode, then it is not a good option. Deco XE75 Pro is a fine option. Archer BE230 can be cost effective option (about S$85 BNIB in Carousell). Both Deco XE75 Pro (Deco Mesh) and Archer BE230 (TP-Link EasyMesh) support Mesh in AP mode.

WC ONR 10G LAN port --> Living room LAN port --> main Archer BE230 in AP mode
WC ONR 1G LAN port --> MBR LAN port --> Archer BE230
WC ONR 1G LAN port --> BR4 LAN port --> Archer BE230

1. BR 3 is the study room. You got it right too in option 1.
2. i got the nokia ONR.
3. "‡Mesh networking requires two or more devices. This product is compatible with standardized EasyMesh technology but has not obtained the Wi-Fi EasyMeshTM certification. Clients need to support 802.11k/v/r and may require additional setup. Performance may vary depending on the client device."
Seems like it is easymesh compatible.
I have emailed tp-link to confim too.

Option 1 sounds good to me. Hope it works. thanks a zil

 

[xiaofan]

1. BR 3 is the study room. You got it right too in option 1.
2. i got the nokia ONR.
3. "‡Mesh networking requires two or more devices. This product is compatible with standardized EasyMesh technology but has not obtained the Wi-Fi EasyMeshTM certification. Clients need to support 802.11k/v/r and may require additional setup. Performance may vary depending on the client device."
Seems like it is easymesh compatible.
I have emailed tp-link to confim too.

Option 1 sounds good to me. Hope it works. thanks a zil

HB710 is compatible with EasyMesh.

But it is not clear to me whether it supports EasyMesh in AP mode or not.
https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/697572

Please confirm with TP-Link Singapore.

 

[natyllek]

1) You only need one EB810v as main router and three HB710. First HB710 is free. Total cost is S$360 (EB810v) + 2 * S$192 (HB710) = S$744.

ONT --> EB810v in DB box (WiFI kind blocked by the mirror)
EB810v 10G LAN port --> patch panel --> Living Room LAN port --> HB710 node 1
EB810v 2.5G LAN port 1--> patch panel --> Bedroom 4 LAN port --> HB710 node 2
EB810v 2.5G LAN port 2--> patch panel --> Main Bedroom LAN port --> HB710 node3
EB810v 2.5G LAN port 3 --> patch panel --> Bedroom 3 LAN port --> wired device if any

This combination is a mesh using TP-Link EasyMesh technology.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/easymesh/

I tend to think this is one of the most cost effective solution as a 10G WiFi 7 mesh solution. Another good thing is that all four nodes come from Starhub so probably easier to get basic support from Starhub.

2) General info about mesh for reference.
https://dongknows.com/mesh-wi-fi-system-explained/

3) HIgher-end --> TP-Link Deco BE85 x 4 nodes. I am not good at finding lobangs so I will not estimate the price myself. I only know the price outside can be very different depending on promotion. Still the price will be much higher than the above solution (more than double).
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/deco/deco-be85/v1/

ONT --> Main Deco BE85 node 1 in DB box (WiFi kind blocked by the mirror)
Deco BE85 10G LAN port --> patch panel --> Living Room LAN port --> Deco BE85 mesh node 2
Deco BE85 2.5G LAN port 1 --> patch panel --> Bedroom 4 LAN port --> Deco BE85 mesh node 3
Deco BE85 2.5G LAN port 2 --> patch panel --> Main Bedroom LAN port --> Deco BE85 mesh node 4

The wireless performance will not be really much better though, but it can be more stable. Deco Mesh technology is supposed to be more mature and have more features than TP-Link EasyMesh as a mesh technology.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3749/

4) There are other solutions like the very nice Ubiquiti wired router plus ceiling APs. But I am not an expert so it is better to ask in the Ubiquiti thread.
Ubiquiti Gateway (wired router in DB Box) + Unifi PoE switch + two or three ceiling mount Unifi APs
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...etup-still-a-work-in-progress.5680023/page-89

Hello xiaofan,

My friend is finally moving in and we have set up the nodes as suggested, we went with option 3. the speed we get at the living room looks pretty much ok, usually above 1gbps. However, when we walked down the aisle towards master bedroom, it drops to perhaps 50mbps. Upon reaching master bedroom, standing right next to the deco, i only get 90mbps. Also, bath 2 totally dropped and returned to mobile network.

I didn’t change any of the configs except to activate MLO. Is the speed at master bedroom supposed to be this low? is there any settings I need to do to boost the speed and signal?

Thank you!

 

[xiaofan]

Hello xiaofan,

My friend is finally moving in and we have set up the nodes as suggested, we went with option 3. the speed we get at the living room looks pretty much ok, usually above 1gbps. However, when we walked down the aisle towards master bedroom, it drops to perhaps 50mbps. Upon reaching master bedroom, standing right next to the deco, i only get 90mbps. Also, bath 2 totally dropped and returned to mobile network.

I didn’t change any of the configs except to activate MLO. Is the speed at master bedroom supposed to be this low? is there any settings I need to do to boost the speed and signal?

Thank you!

Please repost the floor plan as it is gone. Please also provide the details about the placement of the nodes. Placement is key. For example, it is a bad idea to put the router inside cabinet or on the ground.

You can want to check out the following the advices from ISPs here abotu router placement.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...home-networking.6653421/page-3#post-149371244

Hi guys, I have a friend moving into a new apartment, requiring some advice on which plan/package to sign. Currently on MyRepublic, but plan is going to end soon, so OK to sign any. Normal usage for WFH, Netflix, etc - no gaming. Preferably next 3-5 years future proof.

Here's the floorplan: (Red highlighted area is where the modem will be placed, there will also be a cabinetry with mirrored doors)

- Is it better to get mesh or routers?
- Which plan to sign up (with or without bundle)?
- If signing up without bundle, which router/mesh to get?
- if mesh, how many mesh would be sufficient and where should the nodes be placed?

Thank you!

 

[xiaofan]

New ZTE China BE6800 Pro+ dual band WiFi 7 router (中兴问天 BE6800 Pro+)

News: ZTE's own CPU (similar to ZTE BE7200 Pro+) + MediaTek WiFi chipset (BE7200 Pro+ is using Qualcomm WiFi chipset), launch price is at RMB 399, dual 2.5G ports and three 1G LAN ports, seems to be a good buy at its price.
https://www.acwifi.net/31150.html

 

[xiaofan]

Huawei X1 and X1 Pro BE3600 dual band WiFi 7 router. I will say not worth the money at its price, compared to the existing Huawei BE7 or BE7 Pro.

That being said, some users may like the form factor and may also like the advertised good WiFi 7 coverage.

News:
https://www.acwifi.net/31096.html

 

[xiaofan]

New ZTE China BE6800 Pro+ dual band WiFi 7 router (中兴问天 BE6800 Pro+)

News: ZTE's own CPU (similar to ZTE BE7200 Pro+) + MediaTek WiFi chipset (BE7200 Pro+ is using Qualcomm WiFi chipset), launch price is at RMB 399, dual 2.5G ports and three 1G LAN ports, seems to be a good buy at its price.
https://www.acwifi.net/31150.html

First review. Some users may like the Xtra Range 3.0 technology used (supported by high end MediaTek based clients, like Dimensity 9400 and 9400+ based mobile phones).

From the teardown, it is a downgrade from the more expensive ZTE BE7200 Pro+, like less cooling measures, less RAM and no USB port.

This router is using the WiFi chipset from MediaTek Filogic 860 platform, just change the CPU to ZTE's own.

 

[xiaofan]

Huawei X1 and X1 Pro BE3600 dual band WiFi 7 router. I will say not worth the money at its price, compared to the existing Huawei BE7 or BE7 Pro.

That being said, some users may like the form factor and may also like the advertised good WiFi 7 coverage.

News:
https://www.acwifi.net/31096.html

Review:

 

[Encrypted11]

First review. Some users may like the Xtra Range 3.0 technology used (supported by high end MediaTek based clients, like Dimensity 9400 and 9400+ based mobile phones).

From the teardown, it is a downgrade from the more expensive ZTE BE7200 Pro+, like less cooling measures, less RAM and no USB port.

This router is using the WiFi chipset from MediaTek Filogic 860 platform, just change the CPU to ZTE's own.

Do you know if enabling MLO on ZTE (BE routers) gives a separate SSID with the non-MLO network? So if MLO doesn't work correctly on legacy devices there will be a fallback.

 

[xiaofan]

Do you know if enabling MLO on ZTE (BE routers) gives a separate SSID with the non-MLO network? So if MLO doesn't work correctly on legacy devices there will be a fallback.

Usually it is better to create a new Guest Network SSID for the legacy devices, no matter MLO is enabled or not.

It is the same for most of the WiFi 7 routers, like Asus (which will create a default IoT network along with the main SSID).

Asus FAQ: [Wireless Router] IoT devices can't connect to WiFi 7 (BE) router's WiFi signal?
https://www.asus.com/sg/support/faq/1054763/

 

[xiaofan]

1) Asus Global RT-BE82U, not available in Singapore yet.
Dual band BE6500 (no 6GHz band), five 2.5G ports, onne USB 3.2 port, not so sure which is the CPU (Broadcom quad core 2GHz), 1GB RAM,
https://www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/wifi-routers/asus-wifi-routers/rt-be82u/techspec/

Asus China launch price is at RMB 1499, looks like not worth it, RT-BE86U (RMB 1699) and RT-BE88U (RMB2199) are better (RMB). TUF-BE6500 is of better value at RMB 799.
https://store.asus.com.cn/store/goods/detail?productId=42246585669710

2) Asus RT-BE57U
https://www.asus.com/mn/supportonly/rt-be57/helpdesk_bios/

Now only Asus China has a special version: 天选游戏路由2 初音未来WiFi7路由器, at RMB549
https://store.asus.com.cn/store/goods/detail?productId=42245222000163

3) List of Asus China WiFi 7 routers
https://store.asus.com.cn/store/goods/list?categoryId=40

RT-BE88U --> RMB 2199
RT-BE86U --> RMB 1699

ROG Strix GS7 --> RMB 1999, ROG魔盒WiFi7电竞无线AI路由器 BE7200 (9 x 2.5G ports, Mediatek Filogic 860 chipset)

RT-BE82U --> RMB 1499
TUF-BE6500 --> RMB 799, TUF小旋风Pro电竞路由器 WiFi7

TUF-BE3600 --> RMB 499, TUF小旋风电竞路由器 WiFi7
RT-BE57U Special edition --> RMB 499, 天选游戏路由2 初音未来WiFi7路由器

ZenWiFi BD4 --> RMB 499, 华硕灵耀魔方 WiFi7 BE3600
ZenWiFi BT8P --> RMB 1999, 华硕灵耀魔方Pro, WiFi7 BE9400, triband (dual 5GHz bands).

 

[Jun Jun]

Be805 vs 92u which one should i get

 

[Jun Jun]

In terms of speed performance and signal range. Lastly stability. Which is better?

 

[Encrypted11]

New features on ZTE BE5100 (GBE)

Dual WAN was unlocked via firmware update!

 

[windwaver]

3) No, cannot mesh with each other. TP-Link China and TP-Link System Inc are two different companies and the product lines are not compatible with each other. I have tested this one myself with Archer BE805 and TL-7DR6560.

Hi @xiaofan , can I assume TP-Link products bought outside of China are all from TP-Link System including Singapore?

 

[xiaofan]

Hi @xiaofan , can I assume TP-Link products bought outside of China are all from TP-Link System including Singapore?

No idea. It probably depends on the online platform you are using.

Better to stick to TP-Link Global Brands like Archer and Deco.

 

[xiaofo7]

hi may I ask what is the meaning of EasyMesh in AP mode? if this is not supported, I fall back to EasyMesh in router mode? I read that EasyMesh in AP mode solve the double NAT issue. so it means it will reduce the lag? If i am not too sensitive, EasyMesh in router mode is still ok? sorry not an EasyMesh user yet. thanks.

 

[windwaver]

No idea. It probably depends on the online platform you are using.

Better to stick to TP-Link Global Brands like Archer and Deco.

Just thinking of buying a switch

 

[alex22]

Hi @xiaofan , can I assume TP-Link products bought outside of China are all from TP-Link System including Singapore?

Imo it's tplink global vs tplink china

 

[alex22]

Just thinking of buying a switch

Switch usually no issue. No significant level of customization