Wireless IP Camera thread

[marixsales]

I think Marix just invited me to his office for a bashing. I must get my people on standby.

Dear Fuzzywuz, please clarify yourself, MARIX did not contact you over such matters.

 

[geckoSG]

Didn't realise that gecko is selling vstarcam. Is he also selling Asus router?

Wanted to sell my opened AC66U. End up no one keen, so kept it instead.

My RT-N56U also kapo already.

 

[Fuzzywuz]

Demo at MARIX

Dear Fuzzywuz, please clarify yourself, MARIX did not contact you over such matters.

Hi Marix,
OK you were serious about inviting me to view your demo over a cup of coffee. Will let you know if I were to come. Thanks for your invitation.
I will retract me previous statement.

 

[Spongy]

Wanted to sell my opened AC66U. End up no one keen, so kept it instead.

My RT-N56U also kapo already.

Hmmmm....... so are you also selling Asus routers in addition to vstarcam ip cam in your retail shop?

 

[geckoSG]

Hmmmm....... so are you also selling Asus routers in addition to vstarcam ip cam in your retail shop?

Lolz. I thought what u mean. I don't own any retail shop, still working for my boss. But I know alot of shops have. Vstarcam if u wanna buy, u know where to go.

Whether do they carry any ex-stocks for asus at their office. You can check wif them instead. As for me, I am no longer selling my AC66U. Btw, my router is from recontract of my internet plan one

 

[marixsales]

Hi Marix,
OK you were serious about inviting me to view your demo over a cup of coffee. Will let you know if I were to come. Thanks for your invitation.
I will retract me previous statement.

Dear Fuzzywuz, thank you for your clarification. You are always welcome to drop by our office to know more about the products if you are keen to purchase. However, do call us in advance for an appointment as we might be out for deliveries or setups.

However, please do not use such phrases like what you had used. Such statement will undermine that you are resorting to violent at our office and we reserve the rights to make a police report if we feel that the safety of our staffs are compromised.

Hope you understand the seriousness of the statement that you had used.

 

[Fuzzywuz]

No problem. If we all behave ourselves on this forum, there is no need to call the police.

 

[Hardcor?]

Police report

No problem. If we all behave ourselves on this forum, there is no need to call the police.

I'm surprice Marix will resort to such a move as to threaten to call police and blah blah blah. I actually I was looking at Fuzzywuz's message and do not think its is by way of any threat. Unless of course the joke did not get across to the Marix party. I think the crude joke from Gecko will do more harm to innocent children then this statement from Fuzzy. So we should call to police because Gecko is behaving in an such an inpropriate manner and still have to chick to be giving advise on this forum. Think of your innocent daughters reading asking questions on the forum being tramatised by such inappropriate and unconsiderate behaviour.

 

[Hardcor?]

Swipping statements

Just to share with the many readers here. If you are particularly concerned on motion detection. Look for an ip camera that comes with a PIR sensor on it. This hardware greatly proves the motion detection rate of detection.

Most cameras are software based if you do not see a semi circle matt white color like the one in PIC1007WP or certain D-Link models.

Software based can have up to 50% error rates. Its a hit n miss using software comparison.

Another sweeping statement from Gecko

 

[Hardcor?]

Easydoesnothing

The IR-cut feature is not available for F-M136 as this model is the lower end series. Due to night vision capability of the camera, the sensor also detects infra red without the IR-cut so this causes the discoloration.

EasyN H3 series will have this feature. I would recommend H3-137V or H3-187V which should match Vstarcam's T7837WIP and T7838WIP. It comes with 18 months warranty if you get from EasyN Singapore.

As for signal congestion issue in HDB,

1) I will for a start recommend that the received signal strength be at least 20dB above the limits (about -85 to -90dBm) when you setup wireless for the camera on PC, you can see this (eg -57) reading together with the SSID of the network. The number is negative and the reading of <-75 I would consider week. I just did a scan on my H3-186V and my neighbour's signal strength reading's are <-75. My own reading is -57 so I have enough margin.

2) The current reading of -57 I'm getting on my H3-186V uses a 3-inch type antenna that comes with the set. And the camera is about 10meters away from the router. Without moving the camera, I change the antenna to a 6inch type (5dBi gain) and the reading becomes -52. This is one way I wish to get a stronger signal.

3) Positioning of the antenna and the unit is also important. I will try to place the camera away from big metal objects like the fridge or noise generators like the TV, Florescence lighting and even the adapter.
Keeping the antenna away from the wall is also good.

4) Other methods I've tried, power line repeaters and wireless range extenders. All works. I don't have the model no. with me now. If you need this information, I can share. Please let me know.

5) Then we have the option of using wired connection with your IP camera.
Either by power line repeaters throught the RJ45 connector behind the camera.

6) Your question on PSB or Spring Singapore approved safety mark adapter, yes I know EasyN Singapore sells their camera's with this adapter. I've asked them specifically. The power rating is 10W, output 5V 2A. The maximum current I've measured is 1.5A with the motors running.

Appologise to Gecko. I'm actually going overboard here because EasyN is the only other brand of IP-camera I used besides D-link.
So Gecko, I'm sorry.

Hmmmm.... I wondering if the message got across.

 

[Hardcor?]

Optical zoom

OK, I'll only share what I've had hands-on here. The T7833WIP is an outdoor camera, the lens information you see is saying that if you zoom out, it will show the image with 4mm lens, and zoomed in, it will show using 9mm lens. Something like tat. It is a 3 X Optical zoom camera, concept similar to DSLR cameras. The camera can pan (left/right) angle up to 355 degree. Tilt (up/down) is 90 degree.


The ProLink camera, why I state here as setback in viewing is. If you look at the design, it cannot view anything behind it, its just like the Linksys WVC 200 which I used to have, I can only view front and limited sideways. Viewing angle will be much limited, but what I like about the camera is that it comes with hardware PIR motion detector, this is important and useful for motion detection. The hardware improves the accuracy of the motion detection which most IP Cameras does comparison using software which T7833WIP is doing.

I know VStarcam certainly can use iOS and Android mobiles & tablets. Can record to MicroSD Card. Can playback via mobile, BUT it does not allow you to play at certain time of the clip. U need to watch the WHOLE CLIP. No AUDIO recording for now as well. It can be motion detect recording or continuous recording.

Prolink have their own mobile APP as well and they should be able to record to MicroSD Card too and similar motion or continuous recording. I've not tested it myself, so can't comment much about it. So, Pro-Link users who owns the model could help to share your experience as well.

Or before you buy, go down FUNAN Challenger. Take a look at the display demos there before you commit to buy, there's D-Link, Pro-Link, Aztech, Sineoji, VStarcam, etc. Always do comparison first of any products before you buy. So you will not regret yourself.

Information here are shared by vendors, end-users, so you do your own homework with read ups here, view the reviews that people do online, test out any demos that are release to the public and then decide which model meets your need.

Not everyone shares the same view for the same product. Hope this helps.

4mm to 9mm is equivalent ot 3 X optical Zoom? Are you sure it's correct?

 

[Hardcor?]

I think Gecko should change his signature line to "Its not that it doesn't work. It's because it really doesn't work."

 

[Fuzzywuz]

Hi Hardcor?
Actually I just bought a T7837WIP for $120 from SIM LIM. Doesn't come with a safety approved power adapter. But actually I'm looking for 6837WIP for one aunty. Any one here wish to give up their old set in exchange for this? I just took it out of the box last night. Or I can even buy from you the old set. But please make sure it's working and in good condition. Someone told me to buy this from Ang Mo Kio Fairprice. Not sure if I should make a trip to check this out. Anyone knows of a place selling it please let me know.

 

[Fuzzywuz]

Hmmmm....... so are you also selling Asus routers in addition to vstarcam ip cam in your retail shop?

Gecko is not associated with Marix as stated in his earlier posts. Just happy customer. And I think with lots of Vstarcam at his disposal.

 

[geckoSG]

If you r looking for H6837WIP, Slix brand from NTUC is selling them. Try those large fairprice which have electronics departments.

I saw that NEX also have.

 

[Hardcor?]

Hey Fuzzy,
If you're looking for power adapters with safety mark, I have it here. Its all over the place. At my home and in my office. LOLzzz!!

 

[Hardcor?]

Just for information or forum readers, a power adapter almost triggered a heart attack on someone when it exploded in his face while powering up. So please make sure you get safetly mark power adapters. Vendors know that its illegal to sell without the safety mark.

 

[geckoSG]

I think Gecko should change his signature line to "Its not that it doesn't work. It's because it really doesn't work."

Noted your suggestion. Will take into consideration.

 

[geckoSG]

4mm to 9mm is equivalent ot 3 X optical Zoom? Are you sure it's correct?

Good question raised for general discussion.

On my perspective of the zooming that these manufacturer define, its more like the "stepping" they have done to define the number times of Optical Zoom. Example; They take 4mm as zoom x 1 (normal), take 6 or 7mm as zoom x 2, finally 9mm as zoom x 3.

This 3x Optical Zoom kind of lens (4-9mm) is used by many china manufacturers on their cameras. This includes brands like Coolcam, Wanscam, Apexis and so on. Whereas Foscam is using 3.7 ~ 14.8mm lens, and EasyN's zoom is 5-15mm as listed on individual websites.

I'm not an electronics expert here, so maybe you can share from your own views here. This is an open discussion for sure.

 

[Fuzzywuz]

I think the definition for optical zoom is the defined by the ratio of the lens's shortest focal length eg 3mm to the longest possible eg 12mm. The example will produce a 4X optical zoom. But I'm not sure if there are other definitions. You may want to check with VSTARCAM on this.