Air purifier? - Part 2

WussRedXLi

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CADR 80 to 90 is only suitable for office room ba.

Too low for a bedroom tbh
It's very very low indeed, the smoke chamber test clearly shows it. You might have seen very similar smoke chamber tests on youtube for other stuff like Panasonic, Sharp etc, all nothing special air purifier blowers etc.
They clear the smoke in the chamber really fast.

Eg this Sharp. I have this basic blower as well and i tested it is still working now in 2022, purchased last time at SGD 90 from qoo10 iirc 2013 or 2014, can just slap some cheap TB H11 $5 - $6 filters that are cut out and you are good to go with still pretty decent CADR and works in an emergency.

IIRC this one is only 180 m3/hr.
Ok, maybe the smoke level is quite low.




Winix. Some of the old timers here during Samsung AX40 time back in 2013-2015 time would know this.
Another ~ 300 m/3hr machine







Some tiong machine.








The dyson we all know also has a rather low CADR
For comparison, also is slow in the smoke chamber test.
 
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Considering:
A. Sqair, how much is it during promo and where to buy?
B. Xiaomi 4 Lite(around $150) - popular and easy to find filter?
C. Clair Cube Plus (around $138) - seems many good reviews about the noise, anyone using or researched about it before?
 

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It's a small unit. Keep in storeroom for emergency haze use is good.
CADR shd be around 80-90 m3/hr?
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am paying alot for filters, so am just thinking of buy this for living room
 

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am paying alot for filters, so am just thinking of buy this for living room

The thing is this would not work for the living room, not even with 2 or even 3 units. In fact not for bedroom too as it would be too noisy coz you would need to keep it running at full speed all the time. Be it for haze prep or for filtering any floating mold particles from the FCU (esp if your fam has allergies and you are not able to clean it thorougly every 3-4 months)

Yes the filters of branded air purifiiers are costly. If it's a long term thingy, what you can do is to get the xiaomi 3H or something, multiple units is fine. Get the originals, not very costly, or you can save a fair bit by going for the generics on Taobao.

As for other APs like Sharp or Samsung or Philips or what, which are using rectangular filters, get the generic "HEPAs". We have tested a few of them with laser particle counters, they are ok......around H11 quality. they still work. CADR would be lowered a bit, coz seems like their airflow resistance is higher (even though filtration is at lower efficiency), yes there is a performance hit, but it still cleans the air.
What some of us do is to get a bigger piece of filter and cut it up to fit. Pay attention to the sealing as much as possible, use some plastic bags or the plastic sheets packaging rolled up and squeeze into the gaps.

We measured with laser particle counters already, it just takes a bit longer to clean, that's one.

Two, if there is serious haze like back in 2015, then the air quality levels in the room would not get to as clean as vs originals. This is coz you'd still need a bit of gap in the windows/doors to keep the CO2 levels in the house/room at ok levels. But that is fine, it still works, and the interior haze levels are still ok, you won't feel it even with allergies as long as the outside levels do not get like what.....PSI 800 or so.


But of coz, i also do understand that folks here would be skeptical, coz most people are more comfortable with a "brand". Just that, some of us have done the work already and feel this is workable.
 

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am paying alot for filters, so am just thinking of buy this for living room

Picture tells a thousand words

My samsung air purifier. $6 filter, i think the filter needed is 320 by 300mm. I bought 300 by 300mm and the "depth" is 35mm. Then i stuffed up gaps with the plastic sheets.

If you dont like such DIY route, then go the xiaomi route.

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any experts' inputs on this? it's expensive but since filters can be washed, it's cheaper long term - wondering how feasible and if it's all just a gimmick

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...-disinfect-prevent-virus-transmission-2772891
https://tridentair.sg/product/trident-mini/

1998 we played with electrostatic precipitation tech, after the 1997 haze which i suffered tremendously. Ultra long story cut short, I'd say just skip it.
Filter costs you can save with the above solutions mentioned, already confirmed with laser particle counters that they work. The only issue is that Singaporeans are 100% onto brands, so if that is an issue then you just gotta eat the branded filter costs.

Don't worry too much about aerosol virus transmission or what......at home in an enclosed AC room you won't be able to block much anything of super inefctious C19 with any of these stuff.
Case in point, you try smoking continuously in the room and see how much the levels drop.

It' basically ionizer + electrostatic precip + UVC
 
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1998 we played with electrostatic precipitation tech, after the 1997 haze which i suffered tremendously. Ultra long story cut short, I'd say just skip it.
Filter costs you can save with the above solutions mentioned, already confirmed with laser particle counters that they work. The only issue is that Singaporeans are 100% onto brands, so if that is an issue then you just gotta eat the branded filter costs.

Don't worry too much about aerosol virus transmission or what......at home in an enclosed AC room you won't be able to block much anything of super inefctious C19 with any of these stuff.
Case in point, you try smoking continuously in the room and see how much the levels drop.

It' basically ionizer + electrostatic precip + UVC
i see i see.. thank you for taking the time to reply! hmm.. i think i might just go with sterra breeze!
 

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i see i see.. thank you for taking the time to reply! hmm.. i think i might just go with sterra breeze!

Just to heads up. When dealing with odd brands, please note the difficulty of finding replacement filters.

Those using flat filters, you can always custom.

Odd shapes like round, you wont find custom, at most third party.

My Sharp A50 after ten years, I can still find third party filters, same for Xiaomis
 

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Hey guys!

should sqair be placed on the ground or elevated on a table ?
If it’s ground, wouldn’t it be sucking all ground dirt? 😱
 
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Hello everyone,

I realised there are a lot of mentions of the Samsung AX40, but I don't see anyone talking about AX60? Is it inferior? Or just the size issue? I am able to get the AX60 in a bundle deal (with other Samsung products) at a discounted rate. Thinking if it is worth it.

Thank you!

Edit: I just found out the model is AX5000 (AX60R5080WD)
 

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Just to heads up. When dealing with odd brands, please note the difficulty of finding replacement filters.

Those using flat filters, you can always custom.

Odd shapes like round, you wont find custom, at most third party.

My Sharp A50 after ten years, I can still find third party filters, same for Xiaomis
ohh.. this is something i didnt consider. thanks for the tip!!
 

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Saw a review on the Trident mini on Singaporemotherhood site. Voted editor's choice among 8 big brands! will give it a try and support local product 😃
 
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