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Anyone know if Singtel Fiber BB will work with this router TP Link Deco XE75 https://www.tp-link.com/us/deco-mesh-wifi/product-family/deco-xe75/

Thinking of upgrading current Singtel router to get better coverage in my bedroom. Right now I switch off wifi when I am in the master bedroom. The other two bed rooms ok though.
ONT or ONR ?

https://www.singtel.com/content/dam...roadband-troubleshooting/ONT vs ONR Guide.pdf
ONT ( see video : youtu.be/DN6gvMoKlL4 )
ONR ( same video, singtel mode not required )
 

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Weird random recommendation : Slate AX (GL-AXT1800)

will be testing it soon, but thought to throw into the mix of suggestions .

why --> comes with out of the box adguardhome
---> base on OpenWRT

the out of the box why : if doesnt work well, can be used as extender
--> easily wall mounted or practically anywhere

since there will always be 2nd wifi 6 routers, just need something that acts as a DHCP, and the other for dedicated wifi/ as AP
 

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For better wireless performance, go for TP-Link Archer AX72.

For better FW feature and long term FW support, go for Asus RT-AX3000P.

https://www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/wifi-routers/asus-wifi-routers/rt-ax3000p/
Router supporting MU-MIMO and OFDMA technology, with AiProtection Classic network security powered by Trend Micro™

Free public WiFi is rarely secure. Thanks to Instant Guard VPN technology, you can surf on public WiFi network safely through RT-AX3000P with one-click setup. In addition, it’s free!

is this good??


i like the tplink better wireless but like the asus feature :(
 
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https://www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/wifi-routers/asus-wifi-routers/rt-ax3000p/
Router supporting MU-MIMO and OFDMA technology, with AiProtection Classic network security powered by Trend Micro™

Free public WiFi is rarely secure. Thanks to Instant Guard VPN technology, you can surf on public WiFi network safely through RT-AX3000P with one-click setup. In addition, it’s free!

is this good??

i like the tplink better wireless but like the asus feature :(

Then you have to pay for better routers like Asus TUF-AX4200 (good value at S$249) or even higher end ones like GT-AX6000.

If you are going for M1, then GT-AX6000 is the best value at S$13.12 per month top-up for 24 months. Or you can get it at S$383 from M1 as an existing customer.
https://www.m1.com.sg/home-broadband/devices/asus-rog-rapture-gt-ax6000
 

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https://www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/wifi-routers/asus-wifi-routers/rt-ax3000p/
Router supporting MU-MIMO and OFDMA technology, with AiProtection Classic network security powered by Trend Micro™

Free public WiFi is rarely secure. Thanks to Instant Guard VPN technology, you can surf on public WiFi network safely through RT-AX3000P with one-click setup. In addition, it’s free!

is this good??


i like the tplink better wireless but like the asus feature :(
It is just a vpn server on the router which honestly is not that powerful. If you know some basic linux knowledge you can buy a raspberry pine or equivalent to build something better. There are some single command tools that set it up easily.
but if it sounds too much of a hassle Asus feature may work for you.
 

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Hi Everyone. I have a spare xt12 I want to use it at my another home. I’m not sure should I use it as Ai mesh node since it has good wifi performance or as a main router. Intend to pair it with a ac router or ax55.

Reason being if I use XT12 as router then it will be place in the cabinet in the new HDB kind. I doubt the wifi performance will be good right ?

Both equipment will be wired backhaul to the room and the node will be place at the center of the flat.

Please advice.
 
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Hi Everyone. I have a spare xt12 I want to use it at my another home. I’m not sure should I use it as Ai mesh node since it has good wifi performance or as a main router. Intend to pair it with a ac router or ax55.

Reason being if I use XT12 as router then it will be place in the cabinet in the new HDB kind. I doubt the wifi performance will be good right ?

Both equipment will be wired backhaul to the room and the node will be place at the center of the flat.

Please advice.

You may have to post your floor plan to get better advices.

1) Option 1 -- Asus Zenwifi XT12 as main router, not in DB box
The best is to use it as a main router in a central ocation so you can use its CPU power as well as wireless power. You need to have two LAN ports next to each other in the location you plan to put the router (cental location).

Usually new HDB flat will have two LAN ports in the living room but they may not be next to each other. In that case, you may have to pull a new cable.

ONT in DB box -- patch panel -- living room LAN port 1 -- main router -- livring room LAN port 2 -- patch panel -- dumb switch like TP-Link TL-SG105 (below S$30) -- patch panel -- LAN ports in other rooms.

2) Option 2 -- Asus Zenwifi XT12 as AImesh node, not in DB box
If you do not like to pull a new cable, then you have to put a router in the DB box. It depends on your use case but I will recommend no worse than RT-AX56U (512MB RAM). It will be even better to go with TUF-AX4200 (S$249) which has a better CPU. It is just me but I do not like RT-AX55 or RT-AX3000P as main router since they only have 256MB RAM. You may be okay with them, depending on your use case.

3) Option 3 -- Asus Zenwifi XT12 as main router in the DB box
Some DB Box may not block wifi too bad, in that case you can use it as the main router in the DB box. Then add another AImesh node (eg: RT-AX55) in the weak signal areas.

4) Option 4 -- use a wired router like mini PC running pfSense/OPNsense/OpenWRT and then run the Asus Zenwifi XT2 as an AP in the central location.

This is more meant for power users.
 

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Spare xt12 as stand alone ? or was it purchased as a pair and given to you ?

if its a spare from original purchase, do note that you can only used it as a node,


if its the main of the pair, purchased off the shelves, then yes, you can use it as a standalone router, or main router first, before having another similar asus router to be acting as a AP/ node


xt12 is one fantastic unit, sadly not supported by asusmerlin, indirectly , as the need for pi-hole and adblock is increasingly mandatory these days


Hi Everyone. I have a spare xt12 I want to use it at my another home. I’m not sure should I use it as Ai mesh node since it has good wifi performance or as a main router. Intend to pair it with a ac router or ax55.

Reason being if I use XT12 as router then it will be place in the cabinet in the new HDB kind. I doubt the wifi performance will be good right ?

Both equipment will be wired backhaul to the room and the node will be place at the center of the flat.

Please advice.

You may have to post your floor plan to get better advices.

1) Option 1 -- Asus Zenwifi XT12 as main router, not in DB box
The best is to use it as a main router in a central ocation so you can use its CPU power as well as wireless power. You need to have two LAN ports next to each other in the location you plan to put the router (cental location).

Usually new HDB flat will have two LAN ports in the living room but they may not be next to each other. In that case, you may have to pull a new cable.

ONT in DB box -- patch panel -- living room LAN port 1 -- main router -- livring room LAN port 2 -- patch panel -- dumb switch like TP-Link TL-SG105 (below S$30) -- patch panel -- LAN ports in other rooms.

2) Option 2 -- Asus Zenwifi XT12 as AImesh node, not in DB box
If you do not like to pull a new cable, then you have to put a router in the DB box. It depends on your use case but I will recommend no worse than RT-AX56U (512MB RAM). It will be even better to go with TUF-AX4200 (S$249) which has a better CPU. It is just me but I do not like RT-AX55 or RT-AX3000P as main router since they only have 256MB RAM. You may be okay with them, depending on your use case.

3) Option 3 -- Asus Zenwifi XT12 as main router in the DB box
Some DB Box may not block wifi too bad, in that case you can use it as the main router in the DB box. Then add another AImesh node (eg: RT-AX55) in the weak signal areas.

4) Option 4 -- use a wired router like mini PC running pfSense/OPNsense/OpenWRT and then run the Asus Zenwifi XT2 as an AP in the central location.

This is more meant for power users.
 

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which one is a better option and performance?
gt ax6000 vs tuf ax6000?
price difference almost 300+
 

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which one is a better option and performance?
gt ax6000 vs tuf ax6000?
price difference almost 300+

Of course GT-AX6000 is quite a bit better. DongKnows ranks it as the overall best consumer Wifi 6 router.
https://dongknows.com/asus-rog-rapture-gt-ax6000-gaming-router-review/
And the cost is actually much lower than the list price from Asus. In fact you can get it at about S$450 to S$480 BNIB from Carousell since M1 users can get it at good price. So it is the best buy for the high-end.

M1 users can get it at S$13.12 per month x 24 months = S$314.88 upon new sign-up or recontract(no more free Asus RT-AX3000P or TP-Link Archer AX72), or get it at S$383.
https://www.m1.com.sg/home-broadband/devices/asus-rog-rapture-gt-ax6000
That being said, I consider the following two Asus routers are the best value now for mid-range. They are using Faster MTK CPU.
Asus TUF-AX4200 at S$249 (Challenger price), MTK Filogic 830 CPU -- good value buy
Asus TUF-AX6000 at S$359 (Challenger price), MTK Filogic 830 CPU

It is no longer worth buying the following due to the use of lower end CPU, unless you can get lower offer pricing.
TUF-AX3000 V2 at S$245 (Challenger price)
RT-AX58U at S$225 (Challenger price)
RT-AX82U at S$299 (Challenger price)
TUF-AX5400 at S$299 (Challenger price)
 
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@xiaofan

Would you recommend the tuf ax6000 over the tuf ax4200 for the price difference?
I'm staying in a 700+ sqft apartment. Router will be in living room between both rooms. All devices including gaming PC connected by wifi
 

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@xiaofan

Would you recommend the tuf ax6000 over the tuf ax4200 for the price difference?
I'm staying in a 700+ sqft apartment. Router will be in living room between both rooms. All devices including gaming PC connected by wifi
Floor plan ?
 

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@xiaofan

Would you recommend the tuf ax6000 over the tuf ax4200 for the price difference?
I'm staying in a 700+ sqft apartment. Router will be in living room between both rooms. All devices including gaming PC connected by wifi

As mentioned by xonix, it is better to post the floor plan with details of the location of the ONT, LAN ports locations if any, and the intended location of the router placement position.

If you just compare the following two, indeed TUF-AX4200 may be more worth buying compared to TUF-AX6000.
Asus TUF-AX4200 at S$249 (Challenger price), MTK Filogic 830 CPU
Asus TUF-AX6000 at S$359 (Challenger price), MTK Filogic 830 CPU
 

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Ok mine is ONT, so no need singtel mode, yeay.

Gonna wait for the router on promo then hoot liao! Anyway my phone not yet 6E, but I guess multi device support is better.

Please watch the video as mentioned by xonix.


1) Singtel ONT -- you need to set up Singtel VLAN Profile.
2) Singtel ONR -- you may want to set up the Deco in AP mode to avoid Double NAT.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/1842/
 
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