EV driver jumped ship and tell u the cons of Ezv

[tian_yibang]

Lol, she ICE car saleswoman reh

老王卖瓜，自卖自夸

 

[mel1888]

Before this swapping of battery can take effect, car manufacturers must standardize their battery to make swapping possible.

Its difficult unless SG govt mandates all EV cars sold in SG must have certain criteria. Car manufacturers rather skip our market altogether then adhere, ours is drop in the ocean niah.

 

[EJB]

Yes the legacy brands are late to EV through their own complacency. And others especially China brands has not only caught up but surpassed them. Legacy brands relying on brand perception now. There is always a big consumer base who are still willing to pay for brand and badge perception.

Agree, plus big brands don't want to collaborate, so their battery system is mostly proprietary or they make it VERY hard to replace or fix outside, so they dominate the control over the car.

China on the other hand is more open to battery swap, technology etc. However, still got the stigma MIC vs MIJ kind of thing ba...

 

[V_for_Vanilla]

Agree, plus big brands don't want to collaborate, so their battery system is mostly proprietary or they make it VERY hard to replace or fix outside, so they dominate the control over the car.

China on the other hand is more open to battery swap, technology etc. However, still got the stigma MIC vs MIJ kind of thing ba...

In the end the market will wake their senses up. I just read yesterday Toyota is going to come out with pure EV platforms in China. They are collaborating with Huawei and Xiaomi for the software and navigation system. So that's a start. Better late than never

 

[Evcats]

Its difficult unless SG govt mandates all EV cars sold in SG must have certain criteria. Car manufacturers rather skip our market altogether then adhere, ours is drop in the ocean niah.

I will actually compare EV very similar to smartphone as a single unit - if battery spoilt and out of warranty will just scrap it and get a new model. EV and its battery tech is progressing very fast - swapping infra probably be out of date in a few years unless you want to stick with old battery tech. Sufficient for me with warranty 8 years.

it’s like getting an iPhone - you either buy today and enjoy it with all its features or wait another year to get the updated version. It’s always the best time to buy today or conversely EV is always not ready for you.

 

[mel1888]

I will actually compare EV very similar to smartphone as a single unit - if battery spoilt and out of warranty will just scrap it and get a new model. EV and its battery tech is progressing very fast - swapping infra probably be out of date in a few years unless you want to stick with old battery tech. Sufficient for me with warranty 8 years.

it’s like getting an iPhone - you either buy today and enjoy it with all its features or wait another year to get the updated version. It’s always the best time to buy today or conversely EV is always not ready for you.

Yea. EV tech changes fast.
Almost like handphones. For me, not yet.
Im waiting till market matures more & made complusory. Im an ICE kindof guy. haha

 

[Ethan_]

Electric car depreciation is a killer. U can compare a gas and ev model of the same make company

Think probably also cause little or no export market. If force to scrap, its really scrap liao literally.

 

[EJB]

In the end the market will wake their senses up. I just read yesterday Toyota is going to come out with pure EV platforms in China. They are collaborating with Huawei and Xiaomi for the software and navigation system. So that's a start. Better late than never

Erm, I don't quite like Toyota's after sales... that said, I don't like my current car aftersales either but ... the adoption rate is slow and the variety is little. Design wise, all the EVs I see are hardly 'futuristic'. Still need a lot of catch up.

 

[kmkimlo]

Personal lifestyle:
1) Agree. For malls I prefer slow AC charging - usually around 10% charge/hr - fits well within my mall dining/shopping timing. I charge probably once every 3-4 days to keep the battery level above 40%

2) I know my phone will last a day without issue at full charge. Similarly for EV I will know how many Km I’m left with. SG is actually a very small and suitable city for EV Range. A full charge can last me more than 400km. I have driven to 1% left before

actually what I like most about EV is the ability to wait/camp inside car with aircon and entertainment without feeling guilty (or being illegal parking with exhaust emission). I can just retreat to my car to rest and wait anytime.

for the bolded portion is.. yes & no ba.. the other reason that i might not go for EV now is within sinkiepore, how "green" the electricity is.

 

[V_for_Vanilla]

Erm, I don't quite like Toyota's after sales... that said, I don't like my current car aftersales either but ... the adoption rate is slow and the variety is little. Design wise, all the EVs I see are hardly 'futuristic'. Still need a lot of catch up.

Aftersales and service is more a ICE thing. EV require almost no servicing.

 

[EJB]

Aftersales and service is more a ICE thing. EV require almost no servicing.

Repairs are inevitable over time, there are still wear and tear parts that needs TLC.

 

[keenklee]

I don't think you understand how the system works

The e-scooters do not need to charge - they just go to a charger station and replace their battery with one that is already fully charged - rinse and repeat

It would be the same with EVs - they will go to the charging station and get their used battery replaced with a fully charged one on the spot

They don't have to charge the battery themselves - every time they run out of juice, just drive into a charging station and replace

IMHO.
I guess you do not understand what I meant. Nvm.

 

[keenklee]

Ya, especially if they have to tank the replacement

Even if it's covered by the manufacturer, there's a long checklist to clear before they can initiate the replacement

Suspect the ADs are also rewarded if they keep the replacements down hahah

IMHO.
Some warranty is not by manufacturer. Also nothing stopping manufacturer to set stringent criteria for parts change. I think will only know if really got people claim warranty.

 

[keenklee]

when the "time is up", i will renew 10 year for current car.

while i have looked at EV, but i felt that i will not get EV for two reasons:
1) i quite dislike having the need to move car to normal lot after charging. especially within shopping malls. I already dislike hunting for available lot in malls.
2) i have sorta charging anxiety for my mobile phone that i need to always keep it at 100% when i leave house. With the EV, i will probably fare worse.

IMHO.
I still looking at EV - provided it fits into my lifestyle, not changing my lifestyle to fit the EV.
Near my office got EV charging lot but a bit of distance.
In order to fit in my lifestyle, I likely need to get an EV with slow AC charging or an EV which can control the charging so that it will take a long time to charge - so that I do not need to move the vehicle around especially now I am hearing after charging and never disconnect will have surcharge?

 

[hachi]

Yea referring more to conti

Then might be comparable... No experience with conti... But x3-5 for maintaining the vehicle compare to jap and kor made?

 

[johnsonheng]

To

Very good point

Toyota CEO said that the normal ev has 3 times the carbon footprint of a hybrid car

 

[johnsonheng]

dun have a choice bruh.
The govt already wan end petrol passenger cars, shld be within 10 years bah.
Its totally stupid puttin eggs in one basket.
If power generator really fail, all the ev cars are worthless scrap metal?
Shld just maintain a mixture, at least let folks have freedom to choose, not simply bec wan look nice & green on U.N scorecard.

That is to make sure all the cheapskate driver don't go jb pump petrol

 

[niefeng80]

If our cars cost 20k to 30k, then changing a new batt is like buying a new car.

But thanks to arf, coe, etc our cars are more like 200k to 300k so changing a batt is 10% of costs nia.

4d chess by pap.

well said.

like those renewed coe entry level Ferrari and lambo at $500k-$600k. can literally buy 2 brand new in US or China.

 

[johnsonheng]

Thought EV usually offer 10 years warranty for its battery? Same timeline as COE?

They got set a limited on the mileage for the warranty coverage

 

[kensk76]

IMHO.
I still looking at EV - provided it fits into my lifestyle, not changing my lifestyle to fit the EV.
Near my office got EV charging lot but a bit of distance.
In order to fit in my lifestyle, I likely need to get an EV with slow AC charging or an EV which can control the charging so that it will take a long time to charge - so that I do not need to move the vehicle around especially now I am hearing after charging and never disconnect will have surcharge?

Why are you looking to downgrade your lifestyle? Don't get a EV and all is well.