EV or ICE car

[HMAN]

People like you charge to 80%, two years later the same charge will get you 60% haha.

Statistics backup please. Don't hear say la..

 

[aceminer]

Statistics backup please. Don't hear say la..

I just waiting for next yr coe then see how. Once significant dip I whack le

 

[keenklee]

Can you drive for 300KM without resting? I use the resting time to charge.

The point I am trying to drive is you don't need excessive range to drive an EV at Malaysia.
Typical range in 400-500 km are good enough.
Yes 800km range is impressive for your PHEV

IMHO.
No issue driving my present car for 300km because the car computer assisted me for the following
a) maintain speed
b) maintain safe distance from the front car
c) keep in lane

800km is in Malaysia. In Singapore, estimate about 1000km.

 

[HMAN]

Warranty cover below 80% right? Even if drop to 90%, you will already suffer loss of range.

Battery warranty coverage up to 8 years or mileage between 160-200K km. If battery degradation reached 70%, battery swap will be provided.


Based on charge cycle life expectation of 1500 cycles. Hardly one will run into problem .

Read EV cars history at USA forums to get a better understanding.

 

[Racking2322]

Engine oso will cui over time for ice cars. No perfect one la. To each his own. For me I care abt long term costs that’s all

If Toyota, quite hard to cui many years

 

[aceminer]

I won’t do past 200k km in 10yrs la

 

[RyanJ]

I just waiting for next yr coe then see how. Once significant dip I whack le

The problem is when everyone sees a dip, the next bidding ends up high again.

 

[aceminer]

The problem is when everyone sees a dip, the next bidding ends up high again.

Buy within the dip window don’t wait

 

[satire85]

Battery warranty coverage up to 8 years or mileage between 160-200K km. If battery degradation reached 70%, battery swap will be provided.


Based on charge cycle life expectation of 1500 cycles. Hardly one will run into problem .

Read EV cars history at USA forums to get a better understanding.

Ya out of 1500 cycles of charging, you prob experience degradation for 1000 cycles.

Are you a BYD salesman? You seem very blinded and bias.

Don’t mislead people in this forum on benefits of EV when you don’t know how batteries work.

The only way for EV to be mass market is when battery swapping is mainstream. If you keep using the same battery you will suffer loss of range and performance.

 

[weng0202]

For now choose ICE bah, wait for EV to become more mature and stable first. By then, the mileage will be higher and battery will be less expensive to change.

 

[testerjp]

Suppose you charge once every 3 days.

And the battery has 1000 cycles before it degrade to below 80 pct real capacity. EV is not like HP which you charge daily.

That's like more than 8 years.

If I'm not wrong EV Road tax is higher, but the savings from electricity should be still higher.

 

[drkcynic]

Ya out of 1500 cycles of charging, you prob experience degradation for 1000 cycles.

Are you a BYD salesman? You seem very blinded and bias.

Don’t mislead people in this forum on benefits of EV when you don’t know how batteries work.

The only way for EV to be mass market is when battery swapping is mainstream. If you keep using the same battery you will suffer loss of range and performance.

My EV 2+ years old only lost less than 4% range. I won't bother with gpgt since you apparently "knows how battery works", then up to you.

Performance, no clue, never measure, I still overtake effortlessly.

Battery swapping become mainstream on EVs? Don't joke please.

 

[hachi]

Never say never... One fine day if charging from 20-80% within 10mins. Happy to make the change.

Like to drive to Malaysia until ipoh...

 

[HMAN]

Ya out of 1500 cycles of charging, you prob experience degradation for 1000 cycles.

Are you a BYD salesman? You seem very blinded and bias.

Don’t mislead people in this forum on benefits of EV when you don’t know how batteries work.

The only way for EV to be mass market is when battery swapping is mainstream. If you keep using the same battery you will suffer loss of range and performance.

Go read more EV battery research reports, plenty of them on YouTube.

EV battery is having much higher charge rate in 3C to 4.5C versus your phone battery with 1-2C .

1500 is full charge cycle and it is a conservative figures. You won't get high degradation unless you do daily charge from 80% to 100%

EV manufacturers do provide guidance to maintain battery health based on battery type.

LFP battery can be charged to 100% frequently versus NCM ( can be charged at higher rate) but can't be charged frequently to 100% others risk excessive degradation.

I just based on my daily work dealing with consumer electronics lithium ion battery ( real products) definitely don't know indepth over EV battery.

 

[Nuclear Boy]

ICE.

By the time your COE expire in 2035(?), then the EV charging network would be more fleshed out here.

EVs make complete sense here, if not for the current lacking of charging infrastructure. And hopefully battery chemistry gets more magical in the near future, so there's less need for frequent plugging in.

 

[elimmel]

Another 5-6 years to think about it.
But cost will be main factor be it ICE or EV.

 

[die]

EV is just front load pollute...and its even more toxic with the process of extracting precious metals

to be honest
ev is front and back and pray there is no middle part haha
why pray no middle part because if caught fire and bbq ...
one shot can release dont know how many years of pollution

they should ev all the commercial vech first since most commercial vech always on the road one ...

 

[die]

ICE.

By the time your COE expire in 2035(?), then the EV charging network would be more fleshed out here.

EVs make complete sense here, if not for the current lacking of charging infrastructure. And hopefully battery chemistry gets more magical in the near future, so there's less need for frequent plugging in.

3-4 years in ev mileage will drop also

 

[die]

"Technically" better, to me EV main advantage is can blow aircon while waiting without turning on engine
The key drawback IMO is risk of fire but many EV advocates will say it's a very low risk. Ultimately, you should just go test drive a few personally and see which you like. If you don't like a particular car, doesn't matter if the rest of the world think it's the best.

can sleep inside no need scare kanna poison haha

anyway check on repair cost too ...
my boss tesla backside kanna kiss by ppl ....
the repair cost is WOW haha
they say the backside is a whole piece by itself
if wanna replace have to send in and replace the whole thing

 

[Nuclear Boy]

3-4 years in ev mileage will drop also

Good thing of using in SG is the short distances, meaning most people wouldn't have to charge their battery very often, like on a daily basis. Maybe can last slightly longer.