EV or ICE car

[HMAN]

U have many cars ah? I can afford one car very happy already.

I only have one EV - Tesla
I don't have all the misinformed issues painted by some folks here.

No range anxiety,
No fast battery degradation issue. My charge pattern is 20-> 80% , occasionally to 100% .
No startup issue.
No long charging annoyance issue, most of the time, no issue finding supercharger.
Within 2km radius of my house there are 6 DC fast charging networks. Countless AC charging outlets ( never use them, too slow)

Yes I do have happy problems.

 

[standarture]

I only have one EV - Tesla
I don't have all the misinformed issues painted by some folks here.

No range anxiety,
No fast battery degradation issue. My charge pattern is 20-> 80% , occasionally to 100% .
No startup issue.
No long charging annoyance issue, most of the time, no issue finding supercharger.
Within 2km radius of my house there are 6 DC fast charging networks. Countless AC charging outlets ( never use them, too slow)

Yes I do have happy problems.

What is your daily mileage? What is the driving pattern? City short range? Expressways?

 

[Emperor_Hippo]

Thanks for sharing! Last question, What's your average FC?

Lowest is 12km/L, highest is 15km/L.

fuel tank size + reserve = 56L

But I can floor quite hard since I am damn impatient. count yourself.

 

[lycanboy]

Lowest is 12km/L, highest is 15km/L.

fuel tank size + reserve = 56L

But I can floor quite hard since I am damn impatient. count yourself.

Thanks for sharing. Happy New year!

 

[HMAN]

What is your daily mileage? What is the driving pattern? City short range? Expressways?

45 km per round trip, non city driving.

My charging frequency is like 8-10 days once. Charging time 30-40 min with Tesla supercharger.
Average consumption:
160WH per km or 6.25km per kWH($0.60).
(Slightly more aggressive driving style for Tesla EV).
1L Ron98 =$3(assumed). high power turbo charged car sips Ron 98 .

This car consumption: 31.25 km/L

4L turbo charged performance with 1L engine consumption.

 

[aceminer]

Went car hunting Tdy. Toyota was closed. Checked out BYD. I hated the fabric interior on the sides otherwise all is good. Very impressed w the tech.

Nissan was wtf. Extremely old sch even more new cars. The buttons on the screen was atrocious omg.

 

[MistaP]

Between the intense competition from Chinese manufacturers and the available gov subsidies, EVs make much more sense if you rarely/never travel up to Malaysia. There should be no such thing as range anxiety in Singapore, we never have super-cold weather so starting an EV is not an issue, they otherwise are cheaper to run, cheaper to service, you get more horsepower for your money, etc. My current car has just under 2 years left on the COE and I fully intend to get an EV later next year.

 

[nyvrem]

Went car hunting Tdy. Toyota was closed. Checked out BYD. I hated the fabric interior on the sides otherwise all is good. Very impressed w the tech.

Nissan was wtf. Extremely old sch even more new cars. The buttons on the screen was atrocious omg.

Nissan going bankrupt, u still go there

 

[charleslee1989]

yeah reliability should be the most important aspect. like why people choose mercs over bmw.

my coy bought EVs and if i am not wrong it is hyundai. not sure what model, but all has issues within half a year. usage is probably less than 1hr a day.

There is only a few fully electric Hyundai models in Singapore leh....

 

[aceminer]

Between the intense competition from Chinese manufacturers and the available gov subsidies, EVs make much more sense if you rarely/never travel up to Malaysia. There should be no such thing as range anxiety in Singapore, we never have super-cold weather so starting an EV is not an issue, they otherwise are cheaper to run, cheaper to service, you get more horsepower for your money, etc. My current car has just under 2 years left on the COE and I fully intend to get an EV later next year.

Quite impressed w BYd tbh

 

[SuperGreenHorn]

Can you drive for 300KM without resting? I use the resting time to charge.

The point I am trying to drive is you don't need excessive range to drive an EV at Malaysia.
Typical range in 400-500 km are good enough.
Yes 800km range is impressive for your PHEV

Can you do 300km range at 200~250kmh?

 

[joshwong11]

will only buy EV or clean fuel car in 2030 when all the tech becomes more matured. battery n other cleaner fuel tech advance too fast. every quarter got new battery breakthrough, u buy now ur battery car already obsolete 2-3 years down the road making ur bev worthless. warranty for 10 years are just gimmick. those china ev brands might not even exist or stop producing older gen batteries for replacement. unless u plan to change car every 3-5years

 

[HMAN]

Can you do 300km range at 200~250kmh?

Tough to achieve that. ~100km perhaps.

 

[HMAN]

will only buy EV or clean fuel car in 2030 when all the tech becomes more matured. battery n other cleaner fuel tech advance too fast. every quarter got new battery breakthrough, u buy now ur battery car already obsolete 2-3 years down the road making ur bev worthless. warranty for 10 years are just gimmick. those china ev brands might not even exist or stop producing older gen batteries for replacement. unless u plan to change car every 3-5years

Meanwhile I am enjoying lower tariff, plenty of charging stations without long wait.

The market will calibrate to force you to pay higher to better tech.

Battery module is quite independent, as long as power delivery spec is similar, motor drive electronics/power management unit can be re-use.

Not sure about China EV.
Tesla did help to do battery swapping between the NCM(higher density , take high charge but can't withstand too much abusing e.g daily charge to full) battery to LFP (heavier but could take more charging abuse ) with suspension brief up.

 

[V_for_Vanilla]

Can you do 300km range at 200~250kmh?

Malaysia highway speed limit is 110kmh. Granted there are instances one may go higher to 160-180kmh for occasional brief stretches. Any higher you are better off going to a proper race track without endangering other vehicles and road users.

 

[keenklee]

Can you do 300km range at 200~250kmh?

IMHO.
What is the purpose of this question? Can you and where did you do it ?

 

[battledome64]

Lowest is 12km/L, highest is 15km/L.

fuel tank size + reserve = 56L

But I can floor quite hard since I am damn impatient. count yourself.

My FC 21km/h city and highway combined
It’s almost half of what your paying
1 full tank 1000km

 

[fulaien]

Went car hunting Tdy. Toyota was closed. Checked out BYD. I hated the fabric interior on the sides otherwise all is good. Very impressed w the tech.

Nissan was wtf. Extremely old sch even more new cars. The buttons on the screen was atrocious omg.

Nissan ariya quite nice.

 

[leaving_footsteps]

EV evolves very fast. It will be worthwhile to wait.

 

[drkcynic]

IMHO.
What is the purpose of this question? Can you and where did you do it ?

It's like telling Usain Bolt you fastest man in the world for 100m so what? You are not the fastest in the world for 10km so you are not fast.

AKA 强词夺理.

Just let them pretend they drive at 250km/hr everyday.