(GPGT)Espresso machine hoot

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A good espresso be it you add ice water/ice cold milk/hot water/ etc etc..

It all begin with the grinder and extraction.
with $699 budget. I would suggest go carousell and find 2nd hand
delonghi dedica ec680 or ec685 and DF64 grinder..

more troublesome, but i think taste note will be better.
Or if you only want 2in1 .. than i dunno.. maybe some other folks can recommend.
seem to use less coffee than i had dedica ec685
 

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hows the breville bambino for a beginner? or any other recommendations?

not sure if worth to upgrade to bambino plus? but not many places in sg seem to sell.
will do milk based drinks.

currently have a d64 grinder
 

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Hi guys. Looking to buy an espresso machine. Any recommendations? Want one that can be serviced easily and not those buy and throw kind of consumer electronics. For grinder I have timemore 078S sitting in my storeroom that I got during kickstarter...
 

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Which grinder are you using?
Or are you using the build in grinder?
If you are using the default build in grinder, i think you can use that money for a good grinder.

If you already have a good grinder.. than i think its up to your preference and $$$$.
Im using BDB with niche zero.. No complain. great for my usage and taste.
currently use df64 gen2 then the cup is 58mm.. so my breville is 54mm... i now wan buy a 58mm portfilter espresso machine.. range 1.5k... donno which one good.. wan go for more manual type.. than my bes878 which is more automated
 
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I am looking at timore grinder also.... was considering df64 or 84 or niche.

but really dun like niche...

I drink all kinds of coffee depending on my mood...espresso, v60, moka etc

curious to know whats the kickstart price for 078s?
 
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I am looking at timore grinder also.... was considering df64 or 84 or niche.

but really dun like niche...

I drink all kinds of coffee depending on my mood...espresso, v60, moka etc

curious to know whats the kickstart price for 078s?
$705SGD including shipping iirc. Was a steal at kickstarter price but thats not to say it's not worth the current RRP.

it still kicks way above its price point.
 

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$705SGD including shipping iirc. Was a steal at kickstarter price but thats not to say it's not worth the current RRP.

it still kicks way above its price point.

ah... was reading from reddit and saw it was really a good price.

anyone uses df64 or df84 and also timemore?

Hows the do they compare with each other?

I had watch youtube video regarding it but would also like some views from user here if there is any cos df64 or df84 seems to have great reviews also
 

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ah... was reading from reddit and saw it was really a good price.

anyone uses df64 or df84 and also timemore?

Hows the do they compare with each other?

I had watch youtube video regarding it but would also like some views from user here if there is any cos df64 or df84 seems to have great reviews also
You can refer to my earlier posts for some comments on the grinder.

Taste Note: Niche is by no means a "bad grinder". its solid and does what it's suppose to do well, which is traditional tasting espresso.
however sculptor is able to bring out more clarity and fruitness, if that's what you are looking for in your coffee / beans.

Operational noise: Sculptor win hands down. Niche is just too loud for me, heck even DF64's noise sounds less "atas" even when its pretty "quiet"

Workflow: Niche will have some retention and its annoying having to "knock" on the grinder or pump the third-party add-on bellow, causes a mess and just doesn't sit right for me.
The knocker on Sculptor on the other hand is just classy. Spin-Spin-Tick-Tack and its done, not to mention the knocking sound is rather pleasing.

Ease of Maintenance: Niche or DF tends to get left over retention around the chute area especially and also on the blade, even if you do RDT (spraying your beans before grinding), so you would have to open it up frequently to clear out the chute.
For Sculptor, you will get the RDT retention on the blade only if u spray alot of water on the beans - although i can say that the Sculptor needs no RDT and performs excellent without any additional step, which is a big plus for me personally.

Cleaning: No comments for Sculptor as i've not done any cleaning yet, still working perfectly. Although i've opened it up to check the burrs for retention etc and can say that its relatively easy, just need the hex key.
Niche, easy to remove and clean so not much of an issue too.

Build Quality: Sculptor win hands down. Niche has this plasticky feel cos it is made of plastic.
Whereas if you actually manage to hold the sculptor, the housing just feels so solid and heavy. I dare say that you won't believe its actually below $1.5k if no one told you about the price - feels like those grinder which can be sold around 2-3k price range IMHO.

However side note that the above only holds true for 078S. There has been reviews that the 064/064S doesnt feel as "premium", build quality or material wise, and its much lighter thus doesn't feel as "premium".
Also, 064S will have stalling issues when you grind lighter beans at the lower RPM range so take note of this and go for the 078S if you plan to do light roast. However!! if you turn up the RPM, 064S is still able to handle light roasted beans.

Hope this helps!

P.S. iirc i saw that Cheerful Goat does some roadshows around shopping malls and some of the larger roadshows, they do actually display the Sculptor grinders for you to have some hands-on. not sure if there are still doing these roadshows but you can talk to them to find out i guess?
They are the official Timemore distributor in SG, and my kickstarter's Sculptor is delivered by them.

I've only used the DF64 and gen 2, never tried the 64p so can't comment on it.

But both 64 I've tried so far, there are always static issue around the chute area, especially if you are grinding few shots back to back. Saving grace is the gen2 have removal chute which you can remove for cleaning regularly, albeit it's extra work
 

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Hi guys, I have a 5-year-old rocket r58 and thought of bringing it for a service. Any advice on who I can look for to service/repair my machine?
 

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ah... was reading from reddit and saw it was really a good price.

anyone uses df64 or df84 and also timemore?

Hows the do they compare with each other?

I had watch youtube video regarding it but would also like some views from user here if there is any cos df64 or df84 seems to have great reviews also
bought a df64 and love it alot except for the static.. so far so good..
 

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for breville stuff, are alot of ppl importing over from aus? handcarry on flight?

saw alot of ppl selling on carousell, even bambino plus which isnt avail locally.
 

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for breville stuff, are alot of ppl importing over from aus? handcarry on flight?

saw alot of ppl selling on carousell, even bambino plus which isnt avail locally.
I think buying from Aus will be cheaper..
Its a matter of warranty, local = give warranty, oversea import you need to ship back for warranty.
 

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Anyone owns the DF54? My Varia VS3 gen 1 motor died after 1.5 years, so I need a new replacement.

Thinking of either the Baratza encore esp, DF54 or Niche Zero. I only make espresso and prefer to single dose.
 

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Anyone owns the DF54? My Varia VS3 gen 1 motor died after 1.5 years, so I need a new replacement.

Thinking of either the Baratza encore esp, DF54 or Niche Zero. I only make espresso and prefer to single dose.
mazzer philos keyima?
 
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