(GPGT)Espresso machine hoot

[IntelFlash]

seen them? i think they carry a 6 yr warranty!!!
$1.2K for the kickstarter project..
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...rcial-style-espresso-cappuccino-mach?ref=live
Espresso machines, Custom Espresso machines, Home Espresso machines, Handmade espresso machines

This old man don't know got 6 years or not

 

[IntelFlash]

I went to FHA webbie, if register BEFORE 31st is FOC

They got check if your id match your ticket?

Don't know can borrow the ticket from my friend not

 

[Aneurysm]

I think the tickets are for "trade visitors" not for the public. They checked against your business card when you are getting the id to go in but once you have the id, they didn't check against your identification anymore (at least that was the case when I was there and I can't say if that's a 100%). Thats as much as I can say. Most people there wore at least a long sleeved shirt and pants.

 

[sky00sky]

I went to FHA webbie, if register BEFORE 31st is FOC

wasted...I just found out can register free

after 31st

=.=

 

[patryn33]

This old man don't know got 6 years or not

Born 1953... Hmmm 61 yrs old today

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Still not cheap, and it's just 3 months warranty.
Shows their confidence.

Rather buy from the mass order.
Alot cheaper, 1 year warranty, free delivery and got free gifts.

Left 2 days only, so don't think i'm paying $80 to attend the FHA

must remember its not just how long is the warranty but how they honor that warranty. Downtime is important.

If the warranty is important to you then its good to get from a vendor who are also able to to their repairs in house rather than sending it somewhere else for the repairs. you are essentially dealing with a middleman who may not know the problem with the machine if the latter is the case.

Free gifts are never free.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Born 1953... Hmmm 61 yrs old today

come on lah...mr salvatore obviously has many other hands and legs working for him..

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Recently, standard went south. Maybe of the new barrista or whatever reason. So I switch abit went Everton like other EDMWer suggested. Maybe rotate abit. Sometime later will go back try them ago.

Liked them cos on the road side between my Co. 2 offices.

When I first tried HL many years back it was because of the recommendation from the repairman from Jura who said the oily beans (Spinelli) I was using was causing the beans to get stuck in the grinder. He advised me to get highlander who roast quite light and the beans with less surface oil.

Fast forward 7 years later and I can say that highlander has changed their roast level. Much darker but still no visible surface oil. I think their resident barista has been there for quite long.

Been trying strangers reunion for the past 2 weeks. Their recent batch of the chakra blend is superb. One of the best i've tried. Rich floral aroma with a musky undernote of leather, finish is caramel sweetness. Body is relatively light but still silky smooth and creamy. Their roast showcases and doesn't over dominate the intrinsic qualities of their beans. Good stuff very recommended.

 

[IntelFlash]

must remember its not just how long is the warranty but how they honor that warranty. Downtime is important.

If the warranty is important to you then its good to get from a vendor who are also able to to their repairs in house rather than sending it somewhere else for the repairs. you are essentially dealing with a middleman who may not know the problem with the machine if the latter is the case.

Free gifts are never free.

The warranty is directly from Fine Coffee Company who is the authorised distributor and servicing is done in SG.

Even without free gifts, it's still cheaper.

 

[sky00sky]

When I first tried HL many years back it was because of the recommendation from the repairman from Jura who said the oily beans (Spinelli) I was using was causing the beans to get stuck in the grinder. He advised me to get highlander who roast quite light and the beans with less surface oil.

Fast forward 7 years later and I can say that highlander has changed their roast level. Much darker but still no visible surface oil. I think their resident barista has been there for quite long.

Been trying strangers reunion for the past 2 weeks. Their recent batch of the chakra blend is superb. One of the best i've tried. Rich floral aroma with a musky undernote of leather, finish is caramel sweetness. Body is relatively light but still silky smooth and creamy. Their roast showcases and doesn't over dominate the intrinsic qualities of their beans. Good stuff very recommended.

last 6 cups the usual barista not at counter.
One Pinoy guy that wasn't really there more then a year and a young chap just seen for the past few months only.

 

[IntelFlash]

I heard from my friend, FHA nothing much to see.

Not many vendors, and it's mostly those who are already in SG.
So no point.

Some boring barista competitions, sponsored by La Marzocco as usual.
Got SCAE courses or whatever there and it's not CHEAP.

Conclusion, waste time and $.

 

[calbay]

Went there yesterday night.
Might be going there again, forgot when is it ending.
A lot of sales pitch but most don't make sense.
Don't expect much from the equipment traders there.

I'm more interested in talking to those coffee traders as i'm heading back to Aussie in June. Helping my sister opening her own cafe as she just got her citizenship.

Hope to get some good local asia contacts for coffee there.

I know there's many hidden vendors here, if you have contacts, do let me know too.
Looking for greens.

 

[sky00sky]

11th ending.

If you going again can let me know?
Might need a small favour from u.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

The warranty is directly from Fine Coffee Company who is the authorised distributor and servicing is done in SG.

Even without free gifts, it's still cheaper.

Yep I'm keen to try out the strega. Looking for a 3rd machine for office usage in the near future and would like to get a lever one.

Problem is the lever machines can be quite confusing. I understand londonium and strega should be quite similar? Spring assist with pump activated at the down position to fill up the brew chamber and pre infuse while the cremina is a pure manual machine. Seems even need to pump water through the group head to head it up from what i saw in utube. seems well made but very expensive for the "manualness of the machine".

 

[Coffee in a place]

Yep I'm keen to try out the strega. Looking for a 3rd machine for office usage in the near future and would like to get a lever one.

Problem is the lever machines can be quite confusing. I understand londonium and strega should be quite similar? Spring assist with pump activated at the down position to fill up the brew chamber and pre infuse while the cremina is a pure manual machine. Seems even need to pump water through the group head to head it up from what i saw in utube. seems well made but very expensive for the "manualness of the machine".

Spring assisted lever machines like the Londinium and Strega are hybrid machines. They are half lever and half pump driven. Hybrid is for those who want something different from pump driven ones and yet do not want to operate it manually. Hybrid allows for a more consistent extraction as compared to manual ones. The spring applies a constant pressure on the grounds just like a pump driven machine. Manual machine like the Cremina requires more patience and practice. It is more for those who prefers more control and takes pleasure in the extraction process. There is a learning curve for it and may not be for everyone. There is limitless experimentation with a manual lever as no pump and spring are involved. You are the pump and the spring. The amount of pressure applied will result in different results. If done correctly, it produces exceptional espresso which is difficult to replicate on hybrid and pump driven machines. The unique selling point of Cremina is its size and simplicity. There are no electronics, just simple mechanics. So it is just you and the machine.

It is not difficult to get the Cremina's group head up to the right temperature. Warm the machine for 15-20 mins, flush the group head once, half stroke 8-12 times and it's done. Lift the lever half way up, insert and lock PF. Lift the lever fully for preinfusion of 6s then pull to extract.

If counter top space is not a constraint and you want consistent extraction everytime, go for Londinium. The lever group head is by Bosco which is reputed as the best in the world. And Londinium is manufactured by Fracino which is UK's award-winning manufacturer of cappuccino and espresso coffee machines. Londinium is definitely worth every penny.

 

[derazor]

Got this coffee for the weekend

According to them , it's OK for espresso and it's light roast
Papa Palheta | Coffees | Suke Quto

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Spring assisted lever machines like the Londinium and Strega are hybrid machines. They are half lever and half pump driven. Hybrid is for those who want something different from pump driven ones and yet do not want to operate it manually. Hybrid allows for a more consistent extraction as compared to manual ones. The spring applies a constant pressure on the grounds just like a pump driven machine. Manual machine like the Cremina requires more patience and practice. It is more for those who prefers more control and takes pleasure in the extraction process. There is a learning curve for it and may not be for everyone. There is limitless experimentation with a manual lever as no pump and spring are involved. You are the pump and the spring. The amount of pressure applied will result in different results. If done correctly, it produces exceptional espresso which is difficult to replicate on hybrid and pump driven machines. The unique selling point of Cremina is its size and simplicity. There are no electronics, just simple mechanics. So it is just you and the machine.

It is not difficult to get the Cremina's group head up to the right temperature. Warm the machine for 15-20 mins, flush the group head once, half stroke 8-12 times and it's done. Lift the lever half way up, insert and lock PF. Lift the lever fully for preinfusion of 6s then pull to extract.

If counter top space is not a constraint and you want consistent extraction everytime, go for Londinium. The lever group head is by Bosco which is reputed as the best in the world. And Londinium is manufactured by Fracino which is UK's award-winning manufacturer of cappuccino and espresso coffee machines. Londinium is definitely worth every penny.

Thanks for the info! Do let us know when the redbird and blue jaguar is coming in!

 

[tHeGeNeZ]

Hey guys,

Thank you all for your wonderful replies in helping me make an expensive decision to hoot a good espresso machine that can hopefully last a couple of years.

I decided that PID and double boiler is a little overkill for me so I would most likely go with either a Bezzera Mitica or BZ13. Still don't know what's the difference between the E61 grouphead and their propriety grouphead.

Btw, do you guys have any recommendations of coffee roasters to visit in Bangkok? I just touched down in Bangkok and would like to visit and a few places and grab some good blends and SOs.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Hey guys,

Thank you all for your wonderful replies in helping me make an expensive decision to hoot a good espresso machine that can hopefully last a couple of years.

I decided that PID and double boiler is a little overkill for me so I would most likely go with either a Bezzera Mitica or BZ13. Still don't know what's the difference between the E61 grouphead and their propriety grouphead.

Btw, do you guys have any recommendations of coffee roasters to visit in Bangkok? I just touched down in Bangkok and would like to visit and a few places and grab some good blends and SOs.

Thanks in advance!

Any bezzera expert here correct me if i'm wrong. Bezzera is using e61 and their proprietary group head. Their E61 is very similar with most standard e61, has a thermosyphon to cycle water from the boiler to heat the grouphead and a preinfusion chamber which are the hallmarks of the original e61.

Their proprietary grouphead is using a heating circuit controlled by a thermostat to heat the grouphead instead of a thermosyhon. I don't think there is a preinfusion chamber.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Hey guys,

Thank you all for your wonderful replies in helping me make an expensive decision to hoot a good espresso machine that can hopefully last a couple of years.

I decided that PID and double boiler is a little overkill for me so I would most likely go with either a Bezzera Mitica or BZ13. Still don't know what's the difference between the E61 grouphead and their propriety grouphead.

Btw, do you guys have any recommendations of coffee roasters to visit in Bangkok? I just touched down in Bangkok and would like to visit and a few places and grab some good blends and SOs.

Thanks in advance!

Oh for roasters u may want to try pacamara coffee roasters in bangkok. oz speciality coffee gets their beans there i think.