High cholesterol

[power_range]

been eating oats and running, this friday see dr see whats the result.

Me don't want take meds.

I am camping here to wait for your results, can share?

 

[maikichai]

I am camping here to wait for your results, can share?

ok, not sure enuff time this round to get rid of the high. hopefully.

 

[power_range]

ok, not sure enuff time this round to get rid of the high. hopefully.

I had borderline high LDL, went on the oatmeal diet for 4 weeks, it went back to desirable levels. So not sure if it’s just me, or…. So wanted to see!

 

[eternalxiii]

I think game over on their research.

Just watch the latest video by Dr Gil Carvalho.

They messed up that's for sure. Still havent published the finalized version as of today. It's a pity because that study could have propelled bigger, better funded ones. I am more interested if there is any study that shows WHY or HOW can ldl increase a lot just by going on low carb and eating healthy fats, like in my case.

 

[articland05]

moi jiak 2x hard boiled egg with yolk daily for 1yr go checkup my bad cholesterol is lowest ever and good cholesterol highest ever...

way better then jiak fish oil

 

[Mecisteus]

They messed up that's for sure. Still havent published the finalized version as of today. It's a pity because that study could have propelled bigger, better funded ones. I am more interested if there is any study that shows WHY or HOW can ldl increase a lot just by going on low carb and eating healthy fats, like in my case.

I don't think there is any need to continue or publish their research.

Median rate of plagues progression is much higher than an unhealthy person.

However Nick Norwitz explained well on the low carb phenomenon for lean people.

moi jiak 2x hard boiled egg with yolk daily for 1yr go checkup my bad cholesterol is lowest ever and good cholesterol highest ever...

way better then jiak fish oil

This doesn't show anything.

Your LDL depends on the daily total saturated fats intake.

If I were you, I will eat more eggs for the protein intake. Just satisfy your curiosity. Maybe LDL goes even lower ?

 

[maikichai]

I had borderline high LDL, went on the oatmeal diet for 4 weeks, it went back to desirable levels. So not sure if it’s just me, or…. So wanted to see!

I still eat a bit of cai png loh. Balance a bit.

 

[walu55]

I think game over on their research.

Just watch the latest video by Dr Gil Carvalho.

This is a very important video. There has been so much hype and claims with dangerous advice given not supported by scientific evidence in social media by food camp zealots.

Suffice to say this lmhr study shows significant plague progression among supposedly healthy individuals on ketogenic diet with very high Ldl.

The carnivore zealots should open their eyes wide and look at this study that is primarily funded by their own keto lmhr group.

 

[rayzzzz82]

My Triglycerides were 1.74 mmol HDL 1.42 LDL 4.33 when I had heart attack. I managed to drop my levels to healthy earlier when I go on very strict diet (lean meat, no snacks, less sugar). That goes up very high once I relax my diet. HDL does not change much no matter how much exercise I do.
I think it’s very important to know our arterial health/blockage condition but no sure if there’s any non invasive scan. If I knew my artery was almost blocked I will probably take medication earlier rather than hoping a healthy lifestyle and diet will reverse the condition.

Hi,

can I please ask if my cholesterol is similar to yours, is it something to take note or should I take any medication? I am not sure of what changes I can make to my diet as I try to eat healthily. Would appreciate any advice

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Component​	Media	Value​	Unit​	Ref.Range​
Cholesterol-Total	6.57​	mmol/L	<5.20
Cholesterol-HDL	2.23​	mmol/L	1.00-1.50
Cholesterol-LDL	4.14​	mmol/L	2.60-3.30
Triglycerides	0.44​	mmol/L	1.70-2.20

 

[Evcats]

Hi,

can I please ask if my cholesterol is similar to yours, is it something to take note or should I take any medication? I am not sure of what changes I can make to my diet as I try to eat healthily. Would appreciate any advice

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Component​	Media	Value​	Unit​	Ref.Range​
Cholesterol-Total	6.57​	mmol/L	<5.20
Cholesterol-HDL	2.23​	mmol/L	1.00-1.50
Cholesterol-LDL	4.14​	mmol/L	2.60-3.30
Triglycerides	0.44​	mmol/L	1.70-2.20

You can take the healthy reference and risks @ https://www.singhealth.com.sg/patient-care/conditions-treatments/cholesterol-management/
the general diet guide is also there. Personally the worst food raising my LDL are pastries/butter stuff. Actually other food generally are ok since I don’t over consume, just avoid obviously oily stuff.
also pointed out by others earlier artery plague builds up over years. If you have high cholesterol readings for many years perhaps should do a proper health check.
and finally be aware if you are experiencing a heart attack - not long before my heart attack I’ve heard from relative his experience and correctly guess something is very wrong when my BP suddenly shot up and couldn’t walk many steps. doctors took 3 blood tests to confirm I had a heart attack (I was nearly discharged when my earlier 2 tests did not show enough level of confirmation)

 

[power_range]

I still eat a bit of cai png loh. Balance a bit.

I only changed my breakfast to oatmeal. For lunch and dinner, I ate normally for that 4 weeks. So no difference from yours.

 

[rayzzzz82]

You can take the healthy reference and risks @ https://www.singhealth.com.sg/patient-care/conditions-treatments/cholesterol-management/
the general diet guide is also there. Personally the worst food raising my LDL are pastries/butter stuff. Actually other food generally are ok since I don’t over consume, just avoid obviously oily stuff.
also pointed out by others earlier artery plague builds up over years. If you have high cholesterol readings for many years perhaps should do a proper health check.
and finally be aware if you are experiencing a heart attack - not long before my heart attack I’ve heard from relative his experience and correctly guess something is very wrong when my BP suddenly shot up and couldn’t walk many steps. doctors took 3 blood tests to confirm I had a heart attack (I was nearly discharged when my earlier 2 tests did not show enough level of confirmation)

thanks for the link sharing. the diet which I have taken is more aligned to what is recommended but somehow my LDL is still high

my LDL is on a high value for a number of years already. what kind of health check should I take? I have recently taken a CT calcium screening and the test result is zero. is this a proper check for health disease?

I have already have doing both strength and cardio training about thrice per week, not exceeding 30min per session. Is it helpful?

 

[Evcats]

thanks for the link sharing. the diet which I have taken is more aligned to what is recommended but somehow my LDL is still high

my LDL is on a high value for a number of years already. what kind of health check should I take? I have recently taken a CT calcium screening and the test result is zero. is this a proper check for health disease?

I have already have doing both strength and cardio training about thrice per week, not exceeding 30min per session. Is it helpful?

personally its very difficult for me to reach healthy LDL levels with diet. I only succeeded once with very strict diet and skipping all snacks and sugar milk etc. I’m not sure what tests could be done that is non invasive, better check with doctor I guess they can determine your risks better also. Or you can ask Edwin Tong https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...nt-put-in-after-severely-blocked-artery-found whom had to put a stent after his checkup - but at least he did not have to experience a heart attack before doing that (like myself).

I have been doing cardio and strength training before my heart incident and continue to do now. Think the benefit is to strengthen the heart muscle in case any event at least it still can survive some damage or recover better from it. It doesn’t however helps if your arteries are already blocked nor does it helps to reverse. Any medication and exercise is to slower the build up.

Edit: oh the test is an angiogram stated in the ST article.

 

[Mecisteus]

This is a very important video. There has been so much hype and claims with dangerous advice given not supported by scientific evidence in social media by food camp zealots.

Suffice to say this lmhr study shows significant plague progression among supposedly healthy individuals on ketogenic diet with very high Ldl.

The carnivore zealots should open their eyes wide and look at this study that is primarily funded by their own keto lmhr group.

wahlau cannot be cannot be.

Later some member will say you are just ignorant.

Your body makes cholesterol naturally. So its OK to let LDL skyrockets. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

 

[articland05]

This doesn't show anything.

Your LDL depends on the daily total saturated fats intake.

If I were you, I will eat more eggs for the protein intake. Just satisfy your curiosity. Maybe LDL goes even lower ?

I've no idea... I'm the sole experiment so the result probably only applicable to me.

but I'm convinced hard boiled eggs is indeed good for lowering LDL and promote HDL. fish oil rly waste my money...jiak many yrs the result hardly noticable

 

[rarenick]

thanks for the link sharing. the diet which I have taken is more aligned to what is recommended but somehow my LDL is still high
my LDL is on a high value for a number of years already. what kind of health check should I take? I have recently taken a CT calcium screening and the test result is zero. is this a proper check for health disease?
I have already have doing both strength and cardio training about thrice per week, not exceeding 30min per session. Is it helpful?

How is your sleep quality or how many hours u sleep per day?
Is your work highly stressful? Do u de-stress enough?

Do/can u avoid sugary foods and drinks? Can u name some of these items for reference?

30 mins x 3 times a week is just about acceptable but not really alot. Can u try to ensure walking 10k steps on those none workout days? but skip any form of exercise per week is OK for your body to rest. Alternatively, add 1 more day of strength training. Each strength training session should do 3 sets of 8 to 12 reps depending on the weight intensity. Do not exercise when u are quite lack of sleep eg 4 hours. I will do something light and short if for consecutive days I don't get 6 hrs sleep per night. Ideally should be 7 or 8 hours.

I'm curious what exercises u do for strength training?

 

[rayzzzz82]

How is your sleep quality or how many hours u sleep per day?
Is your work highly stressful? Do u de-stress enough?

Do/can u avoid sugary foods and drinks? Can u name some of these items for reference?

30 mins x 3 times a week is just about acceptable but not really alot. Can u try to ensure walking 10k steps on those none workout days? but skip any form of exercise per week is OK for your body to rest. Alternatively, add 1 more day of strength training. Each strength training session should do 3 sets of 8 to 12 reps depending on the weight intensity. Do not exercise when u are quite lack of sleep eg 4 hours. I will do something light and short if for consecutive days I don't get 6 hrs sleep per night. Ideally should be 7 or 8 hours.

I'm curious what exercises u do for strength training?

Hi,

Thank you for your reply. Btw, my age profile is around 40+

I would sleep at around 10pm+ and wake up close to 5am. I do not work as I trade around 1-3 hours per day during weekday. Sometime, I take a nap in the afternoon and walk around, so it is not mentally stressful for me.

I usually don't consume sugary stuff except on occasions where I take a break from my usual diet. My diet comprises on mainly vegetables such as tomato, watercress, mushroom, broccoli sprout, carrot and other greens, two eggs per day, fishes such as salmon or cod fish and quinoa or millet. I usually have one/two meals per day supplemented by nuts/seeds such as pumpkin seed, piscatos, walnet, brasil nut and almond. I take supplements such as multi-vits, omega three, lutein, TMG, creatine and collagen.

the exercise which I do involve non-weight training revolving around abs, biceps and shoulder. I run 2.4km timed in around 13min+ for my cardio training. I have recently gotten a silver for my IPPT.

I also taking two spoon of apply cider with water in the morning, and kefir with blueberry before I sleep.

I guess that I have done what I have. sometime my cholesterol tends to be on the high side. not sure if I should take any medication such as statins to lower it.

 

[rarenick]

Hi,
Thank you for your reply. Btw, my age profile is around 40+
I would sleep at around 10pm+ and wake up close to 5am. I do not work as I trade around 1-3 hours per day during weekday. Sometime, I take a nap in the afternoon and walk around, so it is not mentally stressful for me.
I usually don't consume sugary stuff except on occasions where I take a break from my usual diet. My diet comprises on mainly vegetables such as tomato, watercress, mushroom, broccoli sprout, carrot and other greens, two eggs per day, fishes such as salmon or cod fish and quinoa or millet. I usually have one/two meals per day supplemented by nuts/seeds such as pumpkin seed, piscatos, walnet, brasil nut and almond. I take supplements such as multi-vits, omega three, lutein, TMG, creatine and collagen.
the exercise which I do involve non-weight training revolving around abs, biceps and shoulder. I run 2.4km timed in around 13min+ for my cardio training. I have recently gotten a silver for my IPPT.
I also taking two spoon of apply cider with water in the morning, and kefir with blueberry before I sleep.
I guess that I have done what I have. sometime my cholesterol tends to be on the high side. not sure if I should take any medication such as statins to lower it.

For your consideration. Focus on muscle building for strength training. I have built considerable muscle mass over a period of 2.5 years. It will help in insulin resistance and LDL. Cardio exercises restrict to 80% zone 2 heart rate and 20% zone 4. Recently I'm doing 1 min zone 3 running, then run fast fast for 30 secs, and it continues until 15 mins. I will try until 40 mins eventually. Hope all these will further lower my LDL even though now I don't need medication.

 

[rayzzzz82]

For your consideration. Focus on muscle building for strength training. I have built considerable muscle mass over a period of 2.5 years. It will help in insulin resistance and LDL. Cardio exercises restrict to 80% zone 2 heart rate and 20% zone 4. Recently I'm doing 1 min zone 3 running, then run fast fast for 30 secs, and it continues until 15 mins. I will try until 40 mins eventually. Hope all these will further lower my LDL even though now I don't need medication.

Hi,

Thanks for the advice on muscle building. will increase the intensity for strength training. for cardio training, I try not to overexert so as not to strain my heart and causing wear and tear to my knee cartridge and ligaments.

 

[eternalxiii]

Hi,

Thank you for your reply. Btw, my age profile is around 40+

I would sleep at around 10pm+ and wake up close to 5am. I do not work as I trade around 1-3 hours per day during weekday. Sometime, I take a nap in the afternoon and walk around, so it is not mentally stressful for me.

I usually don't consume sugary stuff except on occasions where I take a break from my usual diet. My diet comprises on mainly vegetables such as tomato, watercress, mushroom, broccoli sprout, carrot and other greens, two eggs per day, fishes such as salmon or cod fish and quinoa or millet. I usually have one/two meals per day supplemented by nuts/seeds such as pumpkin seed, piscatos, walnet, brasil nut and almond. I take supplements such as multi-vits, omega three, lutein, TMG, creatine and collagen.

the exercise which I do involve non-weight training revolving around abs, biceps and shoulder. I run 2.4km timed in around 13min+ for my cardio training. I have recently gotten a silver for my IPPT.

I also taking two spoon of apply cider with water in the morning, and kefir with blueberry before I sleep.

I guess that I have done what I have. sometime my cholesterol tends to be on the high side. not sure if I should take any medication such as statins to lower it.

Your profile is almost like mine except that I'm only 30+. High HDL, very low trig, borderline high LDL. Your diet and exercise regime seems very healthy to me. I assume you have gone for health screenings and all other health markers are fine EXCEPT LDL. You can try going for apo-b blood test (it cost $100+ and not part of regular package).

Not sure whether you are low carb because you mentioned quinoa or millet. For me, when I was doing IF (16-8, skip breakfast), low carb (<100g) per day + fasted exercise, my LDL shot up from 100 to 200 within 1 year. I simply stopped that by eating a light breakfast (no more fasted exercise since I workout before lunch), and eating more carbs. Now my LDL is 136 (ref range for my age is 100-129), so slightly borderline high.

Did your doctor tell you to go on LDL lowering drugs? Mine just said eat healthy diet (which I am already doing). Maybe you can try cutting eggs out for a month or two. Or cut down on meat. I admit, it would be very hard for me to do that, I love eggs and meat. Personally I am just monitoring for now. I am still skeptical of the LDL paradigm. Especially when mine is just borderline and my apob test is fine.