Is it really over for Intel®?

[ondooy]

after disabling core parking, it went from smooth to smotheeeer....

had to do these

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00\0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583

Set ValueMax = 0

verify by using administrator powershell

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583 -ATTRIB_HIDE

Then go to Power Config > Advanced Power Settings > Processor Power Management > Processor performance core parking min cores

Set to 100%

need to disable speedstep and c1 states from bios.

 

[Encrypted11]

7.2L DAN A4 V4.1 with Quad M.2 soon.

iGPU GOP issue resolved yet? (iGPU VBIOS)

 

[fkchon]

7.2L DAN A4 V4.1 with Quad M.2 soon.

iGPU GOP issue resolved yet? (iGPU VBIOS)

I think latest bios with 200S support did improve iGPU GOP. Now it is a good indicator to see if your overclock is stable, instable systems will have more graphics artificing.

 

[elmariachi]

after disabling core parking, it went from smooth to smotheeeer....

had to do these

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00\0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583

Set ValueMax = 0

verify by using administrator powershell

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583 -ATTRIB_HIDE

Then go to Power Config > Advanced Power Settings > Processor Power Management > Processor performance core parking min cores

Set to 100%

need to disable speedstep and c1 states from bios.

I thought all the new bios didn't allow C states from being completely disabled?

 

[fkchon]

I thought all the new bios didn't allow C states from being completely disabled?

I never tried, but there is option to disable C State in bios for Taichi OCF, whether or not its completely disabled or not I don't know.

 

[elmariachi]

I never tried, but there is option to disable C State in bios for Taichi OCF, whether or not its completely disabled or not I don't know.

On Z790, Intel/Asus doesn't allow you to switch off cstates completely anymore. I'm still on the older bios since I have no issues. Maybe Z890 is abit different.

 

[ondooy]

for those having an external GPU, you can make use of the iGPU as the default GPU for video playbacks or browsing.
freeing up the GPU for games.

 

[m0n0n0ke]

https://www.straitstimes.com/busine...SmXZVwMjiLA0PdeA1Q_aem_xqeQ7YgEe6Js42Bhij8ujg

 

[Encrypted11]

Everything SMT except ATX power and alu cans.
Old school shape of ITX retail box was changed from dual layer to single layer.
Accessory kit extended the ITX box width by 50%

7.2L DAN A4 V4.1 with Quad M.2 soon.

iGPU GOP issue resolved yet? (iGPU VBIOS)

 

[Fronsac]

For people who chose Intel in the end, can share why? They do not seems to be winning on pricing and neither is pricing? There must be reason why people chose them right? The only thing i can think of is the memory they can use CUDIMM.

 

[Encrypted11]

265K for 170USD.

10 Layer PCB 3xM2 ITX at 250USD. Cost of entry coming from previous DDR5 platform: 420USD incl flagship chipset & ALC4082, WiFi7 MLO BT5.4 than being shoved a ALC897.

Cheaper motherboards, VRM running at higher efficiency due to FIVR stepping down 12V Power at 1.8V rather than EVR and MB vendors can downcost VR accordingly when necessary.

4-7 M.2s on ATX, TB4.0 albeit not 5.0.

Two Daisy Chained Promontory 21 (B850 x 2 = X870E) doesn't beat one Z890 southbridge. Therefore Prom21 has a physical footprint limitation issue to do 3x or 4x M.2 especially on ITX.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/intels-core-ultra 7 265k-and-265kf-cpus-dip-below -250.338191/

For non gamers or people on 2K-5K and need better IO width and quality, memory stability doing 96-256GB RAM, this is a 9900X on fire sale that can be paired with a 200-220USD 6-layer PCB ALC4082 ATX with DrMOS and 5xM2s TB4.0.

 

[Koenig168]

265K for 170USD.

10 Layer PCB 3xM2 ITX at 250USD. Cost of entry coming from previous DDR5 platform: 420USD incl flagship chipset & ALC4082, WiFi7 MLO BT5.4 than being shoved a ALC897.

Cheaper motherboards, VRM running at higher efficiency due to FIVR stepping down 12V Power at 1.8V rather than EVR and MB vendors can downcost VR accordingly when necessary.

4-7 M.2s on ATX, TB4.0 albeit not 5.0.

Two Daisy Chained Promontory 21 (B850 x 2 = X870E) doesn't beat one Z890 southbridge. Therefore Prom21 has a physical footprint limitation issue to do 3x or 4x M.2 especially on ITX.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/intels-core-ultra 7 265k-and-265kf-cpus-dip-below -250.338191/

For non gamers or people on 2K-5K and need better IO width and quality, memory stability doing 96-256GB RAM, this is a 9900X on fire sale that can be paired with a 200-220USD 6-layer PCB ALC4082 ATX with DrMOS and 5xM2s TB4.0.

I don't remember the 265K ever being available for USD170. If so, that would be a sweet deal.

 

[ragnarok95]

USD170 265K, where?

 

[Encrypted11]

290 Retail + free 120 MSRP RGB 32GB RAM. Expired but similar deals were floating for weeks, incl bundle combo -100USD with MB stacking with 16GB (8Gx2) RAM. K and KF.

Have not factored in the Tri Game Bundle.

Thank Mr Tan and $INTC shareholders for the sweet MDF rebate to major e-tailers.

 

[Encrypted11]

ASRock Taichi OCF for 350 USD down from being a 550-600USD tier product with Nick Shih tuning and HW OC keys, 110A x 22 doubled VRM.

A high quality MB hasn't been this affordable for awhile.

Worthy of @hlots123 Editor's Choice approval if sifu is still scrolling the forums while being logged off.

 

[Encrypted11]

 

[fkchon]

I think theres a reason why this board is so much cheaper than Z890 Apex, no more bios support, theres almost nothing to tune compared to Apex. But at $349 USD its a steal.

I bought mine at $550 USD and I thought it was alright, but next build even if Apex is 2x the price I'll just go for ASUS. ASRock lost me as a customer.

 

[ragnarok95]

Nevermind, ASrock already lost a lot of AMD customer liao.

 

[Encrypted11]

I think theres a reason why this board is so much cheaper than Z890 Apex, no more bios support, theres almost nothing to tune compared to Apex. But at $349 USD its a steal.

I bought mine at $550 USD and I thought it was alright, but next build even if Apex is 2x the price I'll just go for ASUS. ASRock lost me as a customer.

Tried emailing ASRock TSD for test bios in Chinese Traditional? At least in 2017-2019 I did ask for Z390 test bioses.

Even a custom bios for revealing a certain AMI APTIO V bios setting that was locked away from the user, they sent it.

There was an agressive power management issue causing low perf back then, feedbacked on SpeedShift EPP value being too high, and they moved it to 0 and things worked as expected for all boards some bios vwr after.

 

[fkchon]

Tried emailing ASRock TSD for test bios in Chinese Traditional? At least in 2017-2019 I did ask for Z390 test bioses.

Even a custom bios for revealing a certain AMI APTIO V bios setting that was locked away from the user, they sent it.

There was an agressive power management issue causing low perf back then, feedbacked on SpeedShift EPP value being too high, and they moved it to 0 and things worked as expected for all boards some bios vwr after.

I'm not technical enough to pinpoint the exact causes of bugs in order to ask for custom bioses. Veii did try to feedback to them on OCN but it seems even hes not getting much responses.