Is it really over for Intel®?

[ragnarok95]

Any Z890 and 200S users here already on 0x114?

 

[Phen8210]

Any Z890 and 200S users here already on 0x114?

why not start thread for intel 200 series

 

[ragnarok95]

why not start thread for intel 200 series

Later end up only i self talk... maybe.

 

[stanlawj]

US financial system sucks for pursuing hard things.
Intel should be taken private so that the BoD can be fired and stupid short-term sighted shareholders are replaced.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/18/intel_sued_foundry_business/

Intel sued again over struggling foundry business

 

[fkchon]

They claim no improvement for newest microcode 0x114

https://www.techpowerup.com/330069/...de-already-out-no-significant-gains-we-tested

so installing 5/5 still loses to many 14th gen, don't look good at all

 

[ragnarok95]

Ya, i sticking to my 0x113 microcode since no improvement.

 

[Encrypted11]

For Intel, microcodes do not really boost performance.

But whenever BIOS changelog indicates improved memory support, it means Memory Reference Code (MRC) updated, the equivalent of AMD's AGESA.

 

[ragnarok95]

https://wccftech.com/intels-core-ul...formance-improvement-after-new-optimizations/

So far, 0x114 has been tested but it still didn't bring performance improvement. In fact. 0x113 is faster.

Weirdly Intel said it's mid Jan release, but Asus already listed and ASrock also listed the beta version online. I will wait until next yr then update to 0x114 or newer.

 

[watzup_ken]

It looks like this is what ARL is capable of when it comes to gaming. I do think Intel should have kept silent when doing their investigation of what went wrong. Get it fixed first before "sounding the gong" that they will fix it. If the final fix goes in sometime in Jan next year, and the performance remains pretty much the same except a few cases, it will make them look worst.

 

[ragnarok95]

Nvm, they already look worse liao. A few more doesn't make them better. The window fixes are actually in anyway via update.

 

[stanlawj]

The latest Intel microcode update with Windows update increases Intel Core Ultra 9 285k single-core performance on WebXPRT4 by 17%, from 388 to 453 pts. This is on standard DDR5-5600, not CU-DIMMS.
Unfortunately, multicore performance gains are very little.
https://www.computerbase.de/artikel...rocode-windows-und-spiele-updates-test.90508/

 

[ragnarok95]

Not much gain from 0x113. I will stick to my 0x113 for now.

 

[stanlawj]

AMD: Intel’s Arrow Lake-S CPUs Are “Horrible”

https://wccftech.com/amd-says-intel...sh-competition-has-brought-in-massive-demand/

We knew we built a great part. We didn't know the competitor [Intel] had built a horrible one. So the demand [for Zen 5 3D V-Cache CPUs] has been a little higher than we forecasted.
- AMD's Frank Azor

 

[m0n0n0ke]

AMD: Intel’s Arrow Lake-S CPUs Are “Horrible”

https://wccftech.com/amd-says-intel...sh-competition-has-brought-in-massive-demand/

We knew we built a great part. We didn't know the competitor [Intel] had built a horrible one. So the demand [for Zen 5 3D V-Cache CPUs] has been a little higher than we forecasted.
- AMD's Frank Azor

Lol....very ya ya
But i like

 

[ragnarok95]

Yes agreed. My 265K is quite useless in front of X3D cpus.

 

[fkchon]

Yes agreed. My 265K is quite useless in front of X3D cpus.

Really that bad? I been seeing wild claims like this one where he claims its the king of 1% lows which is ideal for esports.

I would love to get a rig up to and tinker around but Arrowlake at this point is quite expensive to jump in for me especially I already have 2 high end AM5 systems. Intel also isn't talking about the future of the LGA1851 platform.

 

[kimsix]

Yes agreed. My 265K is quite useless in front of X3D cpus.

can run this chrome benchmark, Arl should beat us amd fanbois in zen5 threads

https://silver.urih.com/

 

[ragnarok95]

can run this chrome benchmark, Arl should beat us amd fanbois in zen5 threads

https://silver.urih.com/

I dun even dare to post there.



Compared with my friend 9800X3D, my 265K can only win him in 3dmark CPU scores.

 

[ragnarok95]

Really that bad? I been seeing wild claims like this one where he claims its the king of 1% lows which is ideal for esports.

I would love to get a rig up to and tinker around but Arrowlake at this point is quite expensive to jump in for me especially I already have 2 high end AM5 systems. Intel also isn't talking about the future of the LGA1851 platform.

I took a gamble and hope the next cpu will still be on 1851 platform.

 

[fkchon]

I'm looking at the DDR5 memory for sale in SG, I can't even order anything faster than 8400MT/s. The new 9600MT/s CKD memory is available in Australia but won't ship to SG.