jogging and motivation thread

[WussRedXLi]

I used to racewalk, started 2020. Usual mileage is around 3-4km daily. Is sufficient, coz walking 3.5k is similar to running 5k.

The (best) timings that i have gotten is 2.4k in just over 12 mins, ie 5.00 pace. Zone 4/5 HR.
(running usually i only hit zone 1 and then zone 2 for 2.4 at this pace)

Never tried longer distances. Too slow/long for my liking.

If talking about racewalking 42.2k, should be very doable as long as you train the joints/tendons and hydrate/fuel properly.

Problem is always the heat once past 9-10am mark.
Like yesterday, I woke up 5.10 and started 5.40am yesterday, trained (cycling), then returned @ 6.45am to go out with kid after 7.30am and only returned at 1pm. 10am to 1pm was very "unproductive", so many breaks in AC malls, toilet breaks to splash water, getting iced beverages etc. ...in fact we visited MCdonald's to eat Hersey's twice. No useful at all IMO, but for play play and fun is quite ok. (which was the case, coz really was waiting to makan at an eatery which opens at 11.30am).

 

[Ender]

yeah i intend to maybe incorporate it a bit here and there.
how about daily walking shoes? do you use the minimalist type?

Walking is almost 100% sandals. Only occasion requires formality will wear shoes. I am mostly minimalist except for running.

 

[galvin]

Latest Adidas Ultraboost Light (2023) good for running?

Good 6.6 deal for it now. Normal price $289.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[LWZ]

Divide by 5. $120 each.
Last runner only run 2.7km for $120. Probably don't even get to use any of the hydration point.

I ran Ekiden many years back before. Not very pleasant experience, as in need to ensure every runner will make it on that day. The night before, call up everyone, and remind them to wake up and be there.
I was the 5th runner out of 6. When I received the sash, it was soaked with sweat from the previous 4 runners. Putting it on was harder than the run. I won't do it again.

LOL

 

[Jeremy1]

isit just me or is SCSM now ridiculously expensive...

Yes, it's expensive.

Too bad, I no SC Credit Card

 

[Jeremy1]

well i read that cushioning is actually bad for your feet due to the lack of feel and you tend to land harder. its like you tend to punch harder when you wear gloves as compared to bare knuckles.

anyway i got interested in all these minimalist stuff because of this podcast. its worth a listen.

Video so long

Actually, I went to sport shop and I always chat with those seller and we do think the same.

It depends on your running form.

If you always pond heavily on your heel / mid or forefoot when running, I can assure you later in life, you will have pain.

For me is okay because I walked

 

[xllms]

I am curious. Is it possible to finish the 42.195km at brisk walk pace?
Or sure need running to complete it within the cut-off timing?

try brisk walking for one hr at approx. 10km/hr. If can do it, extend it gradually to 2, 3, etc hours.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Latest Adidas Ultraboost Light (2023) good for running?

Good 6.6 deal for it now. Normal price $289.

Bro just go for the china items mentioned here. Good shoes for general masses and even advanced runners.

 

[WussRedXLi]

try brisk walking for one hr at approx. 10km/hr. If can do it, extend it gradually to 2, 3, etc hours.

Can youtube search racewalking. 7.00 pace i doable in zone 2 for longer distances up to say 5-8km.
In 3-4km distance, i can maintain 6.30 pace in zone 2 due to lower cardiac drift.
Intervals i do at 4.30-5.00 paces. I can hit 4.00 to 4.15 "sprint" racewalking but with fugged up illegal form coz a lot of "lifting" detected due to very high cadence. In a sense, my neuromusclar aspect still not developed for that, which is very difficult (more difficult than running).

So in a sense, i believe 5-5.30h FM racewalking is very doable for me, that is IF my ligaments/tendons can hold up (which of coz absolutely cannot atm)

ps. I came across a vid of a Greece or what country woman racewalker, olympics level one........she racewalked a marathon event in under 4hrs and was overtalking quite a fair number of runners.
Anyway, 50K racewalk is 4hrs plus for woman. Men is 4hrs.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[xllms]

Can youtube search racewalking. 7.00 pace i doable in zone 2 for longer distances up to say 5-8km.
In 3-4km distance, i can maintain 6.30 pace in zone 2 due to lower cardiac drift.
Intervals i do at 4.30-5.00 paces. I can hit 4.00 to 4.15 "sprint" racewalking but with fugged up illegal form coz a lot of "lifting" detected due to very high cadence. In a sense, my neuromusclar aspect still not developed for that, which is very difficult (more difficult than running).

So in a sense, i believe 5-5.30h FM racewalking is very doable for me, that is IF my ligaments/tendons can hold up (which of coz absolutely cannot atm)

ps. I came across a vid of a Greece or what country woman racewalker, olympics level one........she racewalked a marathon event in under 4hrs and was overtalking quite a fair number of runners.
Anyway, 50K racewalk is 4hrs plus for woman. Men is 4hrs.

you expert level
my zone 2 is ard 8min/hr or slower
7min/km will easily be in zone 3 liao
my fastest after 10km of zone 2 is only 5min/km for 1km.
so if i am to brisk walk, which i had done 10-12km, i had to do it at 9-10min/km. if i have to lower the time, i have to mix it up with runs at ard 7-8min/km.
maybe next time i should try brisk walking for HM and test how long will i take.

 

[Ender]

try brisk walking for one hr at approx. 10km/hr. If can do it, extend it gradually to 2, 3, etc hours.

10km/hr is 6min/km.. Running at this pace also got issue for 42km most of us.. coz this is a 4h 13min FM time.

 

[Ender]

Bro just go for the china items mentioned here. Good shoes for general masses and even advanced runners.

No one will steal it if just leave it outside.

 

[xllms]

China brand standards nowadays is on par with most western top brands. There are some unknown brands, eg. do-win多威 is garnering positive reviews in China as well. Check out the models,

神行者2代【淘宝】https://m.tb.cn/h.g3HBDkRFr88fmuh?tk=z0VnWDWYptF

 

[Cometdevil]

After more than 1.5month never exercise...

Do 3km 7min15s /km pace also want to die already.
Cham ar

 

[Ender]

For those who find it hard to do zone 2. It will be hard initially, coz you are not metabolic flexible yet. That's where zone2 training comes in. I like to add, don't refuel during easy run, you suppose to teach your body to use stored energy. That's why some runner s during rest days, they go for easy run, just to base built and get your body adapt to fat burning. Even on recovery days, they will do recovery run. The more frequent you do, the more your body become metabolic flexible and become efficient at fat burning.

ALso my own belief, there will be muscle and skeletal adaptation, since the intensity at lower than 85% of threshold are know to cause many adaptation in our body, and our easy runs are at that zone. I never had PF issues, or do I need braces for knee since the day I started running.

Also to note, LSD is not easy days even though it's in mostly zone 2.

 

[WussRedXLi]

you expert level
my zone 2 is ard 8min/hr or slower
7min/km will easily be in zone 3 liao
my fastest after 10km of zone 2 is only 5min/km for 1km.
so if i am to brisk walk, which i had done 10-12km, i had to do it at 9-10min/km. if i have to lower the time, i have to mix it up with runs at ard 7-8min/km.
maybe next time i should try brisk walking for HM and test how long will i take.

Problem is that though walking can be done at a lower speed than running (duh) with a more natural gait, it is at a higher energy expenditure per km.
(racewalking 50km burns nearly 2 times the energy vs running a 42.2k, can just do the conversion)

So trying to briskwalk the FM really need to fuel well, coz you'd expend more energy than running.
Just that also if walk relatively slowly, it is also possible to just turn to a high percentage of fats burning, so also can be maintained......just not so slow that 7hrs also cannot finish can liao. (as per original question by the other fella).

 

[WussRedXLi]

maybe next time i should try brisk walking for HM and test how long will i take.

Can try 1.6 or 2.4k first. It's pretty fun actually. Coz sometimes you can see runners trying to pace or overtake you.
And then if still got gas and you surge at 4.30 pace, you try getting a glimpse of their faces.
Of coz, need to train for that also (not merely just walking for exercise purpose)


4.00 "sprint pace" quite a few would give you WTF look one. heh.
(world record 1 mile is @ 3.26 pace....faster than what i can racewalk sprint at just for 20 seconds or so wtf sia)

 

[Jeremy1]

HM already going to die liao, FM cfm will died unless you can trained until maintaining an easy pace which can last you to complete the FM distance within the 7.5 hour time limit.

I think it's super torturing n tiring.