jogging and motivation thread

[winningeleven]

wow just used qiaodan strong wind 3 (with nylon plate) for 1 slow run (9min/km) and 1 medium pace run (6.30min/km). indeed not suitable for slower pace. very stiff and it's like wearing sandals to jog.

I never wear qiaodan shoe before but not sure how much mileage u have put in. Some of the running shoes I ran required the need to break in . My adios pro 3 and superblast required at least 80km . However My old saucony endorphins speed 3 which also has small nylon plate no need break in. Feel good the moment for the 1st run.

 

[rarenick]

Lol all I wear are my finisher shirts/ race singlets LOL

Might as well wear them if u have

 

[sales69]

Airism for me doesn’t feel nice, recently I found this brand “Krane隺”, like the material on the back for super hot summer. Anyone interested can consider.
http://xhslink.com/m/5n4mYBfHyxc
https://e.tb.cn/h.hSDq80JC4DcUKHa?tk=LAiS4b6pGSo

Airism got 2 type . The common one and the mesh. The mesh one work well for me..

Wah thanks for recommendation!

Ever since Airism mesh got discontinued, I have been trying to find alternatives for casual wear.

This Krane brand looks good.

I also have another brand - Gofind.

https://e.tb.cn/h.hSAN2Wy69GTLayA?tk=ko2I4b8FHYq CZ321 「果凡轻薄透气吸汗速干运动上衣男女款健身户外马拉松跑步短袖T恤

Their ad said the fabric material is from Toray which if I recall correctly, also made Airism for Uniqlo.

For our hot humid weather, really feels quite like Airism mesh. Not 100% but close.

Way better than all the ice cool material on Taobao.

Only con is the sporty look. So if wear for casual, abit not here not there.

These below from Qiaodan are also cooling but they are definitely sporty and not Airism Mesh like.

https://e.tb.cn/h.h799LzLkDamsLR7?tk=H9g84bjcvnD MF278 「乔丹马拉松透气短袖T恤

https://e.tb.cn/h.hSACOcDJjcpWvQn?tk=f8By4bjeVRQ HU293 「乔丹短袖t恤男士2025夏季新款商场同款跑步健身运动透气防晒上衣

 

[xllms]

Lol all I wear are my finisher shirts/ race singlets LOL

me kosong races, can only wear commercial ones

 

[xllms]

Wah thanks for recommendation!

Ever since Airism mesh got discontinued, I have been trying to find alternatives for casual wear.

This Krane brand looks good.

I also have another brand - Gofind.

https://e.tb.cn/h.hSAN2Wy69GTLayA?tk=ko2I4b8FHYq CZ321 「果凡轻薄透气吸汗速干运动上衣男女款健身户外马拉松跑步短袖T恤

Their ad said the fabric material is from Toray which if I recall correctly, also made Airism for Uniqlo.

For our hot humid weather, really feels quite like Airism mesh. Not 100% but close.

Way better than all the ice cool material on Taobao.

Only con is the sporty look. So if wear for casual, abit not here not there.

These below from Qiaodan are also cooling but they are definitely sporty and not Airism Mesh like.

https://e.tb.cn/h.h799LzLkDamsLR7?tk=H9g84bjcvnD MF278 「乔丹马拉松透气短袖T恤

https://e.tb.cn/h.hSACOcDJjcpWvQn?tk=f8By4bjeVRQ HU293 「乔丹短袖t恤男士2025夏季新款商场同款跑步健身运动透气防晒上衣

this gofind material looks similar to the one from bmai which i had previously recommended as a cheap option in summer condition. material is thin, breathable, price is cheap but not soft and gentle enough to the body which may lead to abrasion. Prefer the softer and better material options from other brands, eg. Qinkung. but price more than double.

those cheap price icecool material, i don't. bought before, wore a few times gave up. not breathable and feels sticky to the body.

 

[WussRedXLi]

[Continuation]
Anyway old liao. Will never go back to serapong again. Walk up also hard. This challenge u can also think of. 服了你

Yeah that one not long......but one certain portion i think first 1/3rd or so the transient gradient quite power (IIRC transient peaking ~ 20% even) , if insufficient strength/power then would need to dismount. And you know after dismounting it's damn hard to mount again unless go downhill to gain momentum and then turn back up.......but that place is bloody narrow so cant do that.
ie once feet on the ground, it's basically game over.

My kid still yet to conquer this.......my fnhon 451 foldie for him has 58T front and 46T biggest rear cog, but his strength and cardio still not enough.

Wakao... Never tried before zone 2 to climb Mt faber steep side.

Can try as a challenge..... the max i have intervaled there is 4-5X. Usually 2X just for fun, sometimes once as part of the session plus pepys, SBV, rolling Sentosa (including Serapong). I might try double that next time during a training session. Or maybe try hit 10.
i think got a few middle aged cyclists scared and find it a challenge to go up. Shd be cardio/strength limited. Even got "biomechanical" classes based on this.
ie $$$$ income opportunity, but ok lah......as long as the end user happy and find it useful for their health journey ok la. Same as paying for running coached or online/AI training plans.
But for us with some decent background, we tend to try to DIY mix n match and just youtube it and then mimic/train. More fun also..... it's the journey.

Coz of running and esp racewalking during COVID time, for me i dont have a pace issue or maintaining easy / Z2 pace. Quite in-tune when there is lactate produced. Part of it is actually being disciplined/"ego" management.

 

[DigDub]

Singapore are "slopes" only.

Real climbs are overseas.

 

[sales69]

this gofind material looks similar to the one from bmai which i had previously recommended as a cheap option in summer condition. material is thin, breathable, price is cheap but not soft and gentle enough to the body which may lead to abrasion. Prefer the softer and better material options from other brands, eg. Qinkung. but price more than double.

those cheap price icecool material, i don't. bought before, wore a few times gave up. not breathable and feels sticky to the body.

Ya those cheap icecool really CMI. Not gonna waste time on them anymore.

This Gofind is smooth and cool, not scratchy even though there's mesh. Not smelly after sweating also. Can give it a try.

I also bought the cheapest 马孔多. About $15. Somewhat scratchy and smells after sweat. Not worth it imo.

Wanted to get bmai the previous round but size or color ran out of stock.

Next round I will get bmai, Qinkung and Krane.

So many to buy.

 

[sales69]

Singapore are "slopes" only.

Real climbs are overseas.

When I say run Bedok Reservoir "Hill".

Or say to Chinese speaking uncles, 跑 "山".

Think of it also paiseh.

 

[WussRedXLi]

I think Serapong public areas, ie the main road hill climb, is open to general public.

The restricted areas are the structures inside. So if dont stray off the main road which is our area of interest shd be fine.

https://www.roots.gov.sg/places/places-landing/Places/landmarks/Sentosa-Heritage-Trail/Fort-Serapong

Learn more about the guns and history of Fort Serapong through information boards here, but please do not stray off the road as public access to forested areas and some structures is restricted. If you would like to explore these structures, please visit go.gov.sg/sentosanature for more information.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Singapore are "slopes" only.

Real climbs are overseas.

Unfortunately for me, i will never go overseas Malaysia....... even driving also i dont do one. Personal reasons.


That's why if interested, then need to interval it several times......not a single continuous long climb of coz but still the end effect is pretty close. . 10X of Mt Faber is +800 metres liao......
Locally, everesting or half everesting is usually done there as well.

Even for running 10k is the max i'd ever raced anyway....... More like 3k, 5k currently for me.......but if got AHM i'd train for 10k distance.
T100 standard duathlon of 10k in 2 run legs and 32k bike is actually painful enough if going for timing, it's already actually slightly longer/higher energy expenditure than a HM.


So seriously if next time i ever wanna TT Mt Faber, is prob just 1x up. Fast and simple, ATP-PC and Glycolytic systems predominantly, plus a decent bit of aerobic. Fast, sharp, simple. Probably not unlike a 1.5k TT run.
It's difficult to TT multi laps, coz of the descent element, ie dangerous.

If only we'd a hill that is 2X longer/higher than mount faber......then that would be similar to our 2.4 liao.
Alas, no such luck.

Anyway he did not start from the main road, so.......

 

[kkkkdllmkkkk]

I never wear qiaodan shoe before but not sure how much mileage u have put in. Some of the running shoes I ran required the need to break in . My adios pro 3 and superblast required at least 80km . However My old saucony endorphins speed 3 which also has small nylon plate no need break in. Feel good the moment for the 1st run.

so far i have tried 15km... seems like i am too slow hahahhahaha...

next pair will be Bmai Jingtan Fly

 

[WussRedXLi]

Regardless, for cyclists, go try reaching the top area toilet/vending machine staying within zone 2. You wanna play HR or power, or a mix of both, up to you, depending on what you have. Even without a watch, just singing a song or trying to only breathe through your nose can also count (no need to be too ngeow lah). One lap enough, no timing needed, just stay within Z2 and no dismounting.

Walkers / joggers a bit cannot.....coz it's easy to achieve, as long as you slow to a snail pace. Cyclists cannot slow to a snail 1kmh pace....unless extreme fat tire bikes/mountain bikes or something.

Can try first......it's not that easy. (actually from my experience, it is pretty difficult)
I feel it is a good milestone to achieve.
If you are able to keep within Z2 1 lap, your aerobic base and strength is pretty much there already.

 

[winningeleven]

so far i have tried 15km... seems like i am too slow hahahhahaha...

next pair will be Bmai Jingtan Fly

I think 15km is too early to judge . Unless many runners u know worn the same shoes as u didn't face the same issue by running the same pace as u.

U know whatever I watched YouTube video review . Some of their slow run is 5mins /km . It is actually considered very fast pace for many regular runner

 

[WussRedXLi]

Actually good to have pacers sometimes. They got pacers for 5:00, 4:30, 4:00, 3:30

 

[PikaPika33]

U buy liao no need wear for run, correct? Jogging just wear your normal guys clothes can liao.

buy liao no use abit wasted

Running also need to cross dress? Singapore weather, guys attire of singlet and short are the best.

real man will persist his passion

 

[WussRedXLi]

buy liao no use abit wasted

real man will persist his passion

Basket, i originally gave you the benefit of the doubt, tot you zhar boh.
(I think this thread got 1 or 2 zharboh, but just like posts nia and rarely posts.......eg Dinoaunty)

 

[PikaPika33]

Basket, i originally gave you the benefit of the doubt, tot you zhar boh.
(I think this thread got 1 or 2 zharboh, but just like posts nia and rarely posts.......eg Dinoaunty)

hmm in my edmw career i never once claim to be rcp

 

[WussRedXLi]

Ya those cheap icecool really CMI. Not gonna waste time on them anymore.

This Gofind is smooth and cool, not scratchy even though there's mesh. Not smelly after sweating also. Can give it a try.

I also bought the cheapest 马孔多. About $15. Somewhat scratchy and smells after sweat. Not worth it imo.

Wanted to get bmai the previous round but size or color ran out of stock.

Next round I will get bmai, Qinkung and Krane.

So many to buy.

Airism for me doesn’t feel nice, recently I found this brand “Krane隺”, like the material on the back for super hot summer. Anyone interested can consider.
http://xhslink.com/m/5n4mYBfHyxc
https://e.tb.cn/h.hSDq80JC4DcUKHa?tk=LAiS4b6pGSo

The krane one looks promising for its back material construction. And cheap enough to try.
Only thing is whether or not the material is decently smooth / comfy.

But remember, for it to work nicely, need to be body hugging and contact as much of the torso as possible, ie buy smaller sizes.
If not, it merely would just be fast drying properties that you enjoy, but the evaporative cooling property you would not enjoy.

 

[kkkkdllmkkkk]

I think 15km is too early to judge . Unless many runners u know worn the same shoes as u didn't face the same issue by running the same pace as u.

U know whatever I watched YouTube video review . Some of their slow run is 5mins /km . It is actually considered very fast pace for many regular runner

dunno need to train how long to hit 5mins / km loh....