jogging and motivation thread

[WussRedXLi]

I think Serapong public areas, ie the main road hill climb, is open to general public.

The restricted areas are the structures inside. So if dont stray off the main road which is our area of interest shd be fine.

https://www.roots.gov.sg/places/places-landing/Places/landmarks/Sentosa-Heritage-Trail/Fort-Serapong

Learn more about the guns and history of Fort Serapong through information boards here, but please do not stray off the road as public access to forested areas and some structures is restricted. If you would like to explore these structures, please visit go.gov.sg/sentosanature for more information.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Singapore are "slopes" only.

Real climbs are overseas.

Unfortunately for me, i will never go overseas Malaysia....... even driving also i dont do one. Personal reasons.


That's why if interested, then need to interval it several times......not a single continuous long climb of coz but still the end effect is pretty close. . 10X of Mt Faber is +800 metres liao......
Locally, everesting or half everesting is usually done there as well.

Even for running 10k is the max i'd ever raced anyway....... More like 3k, 5k currently for me.......but if got AHM i'd train for 10k distance.
T100 standard duathlon of 10k in 2 run legs and 32k bike is actually painful enough if going for timing, it's already actually slightly longer/higher energy expenditure than a HM.


So seriously if next time i ever wanna TT Mt Faber, is prob just 1x up. Fast and simple, ATP-PC and Glycolytic systems predominantly, plus a decent bit of aerobic. Fast, sharp, simple. Probably not unlike a 1.5k TT run.
It's difficult to TT multi laps, coz of the descent element, ie dangerous.

If only we'd a hill that is 2X longer/higher than mount faber......then that would be similar to our 2.4 liao.
Alas, no such luck.

Anyway he did not start from the main road, so.......

 

[kkkkdllmkkkk]

I never wear qiaodan shoe before but not sure how much mileage u have put in. Some of the running shoes I ran required the need to break in . My adios pro 3 and superblast required at least 80km . However My old saucony endorphins speed 3 which also has small nylon plate no need break in. Feel good the moment for the 1st run.

so far i have tried 15km... seems like i am too slow hahahhahaha...

next pair will be Bmai Jingtan Fly

 

[WussRedXLi]

Regardless, for cyclists, go try reaching the top area toilet/vending machine staying within zone 2. You wanna play HR or power, or a mix of both, up to you, depending on what you have. Even without a watch, just singing a song or trying to only breathe through your nose can also count (no need to be too ngeow lah). One lap enough, no timing needed, just stay within Z2 and no dismounting.

Walkers / joggers a bit cannot.....coz it's easy to achieve, as long as you slow to a snail pace. Cyclists cannot slow to a snail 1kmh pace....unless extreme fat tire bikes/mountain bikes or something.

Can try first......it's not that easy. (actually from my experience, it is pretty difficult)
I feel it is a good milestone to achieve.
If you are able to keep within Z2 1 lap, your aerobic base and strength is pretty much there already.

 

[winningeleven]

so far i have tried 15km... seems like i am too slow hahahhahaha...

next pair will be Bmai Jingtan Fly

I think 15km is too early to judge . Unless many runners u know worn the same shoes as u didn't face the same issue by running the same pace as u.

U know whatever I watched YouTube video review . Some of their slow run is 5mins /km . It is actually considered very fast pace for many regular runner

 

[WussRedXLi]

Actually good to have pacers sometimes. They got pacers for 5:00, 4:30, 4:00, 3:30

 

[PikaPika33]

U buy liao no need wear for run, correct? Jogging just wear your normal guys clothes can liao.

buy liao no use abit wasted

Running also need to cross dress? Singapore weather, guys attire of singlet and short are the best.

real man will persist his passion

 

[WussRedXLi]

buy liao no use abit wasted

real man will persist his passion

Basket, i originally gave you the benefit of the doubt, tot you zhar boh.
(I think this thread got 1 or 2 zharboh, but just like posts nia and rarely posts.......eg Dinoaunty)

 

[PikaPika33]

Basket, i originally gave you the benefit of the doubt, tot you zhar boh.
(I think this thread got 1 or 2 zharboh, but just like posts nia and rarely posts.......eg Dinoaunty)

hmm in my edmw career i never once claim to be rcp

 

[WussRedXLi]

Ya those cheap icecool really CMI. Not gonna waste time on them anymore.

This Gofind is smooth and cool, not scratchy even though there's mesh. Not smelly after sweating also. Can give it a try.

I also bought the cheapest 马孔多. About $15. Somewhat scratchy and smells after sweat. Not worth it imo.

Wanted to get bmai the previous round but size or color ran out of stock.

Next round I will get bmai, Qinkung and Krane.

So many to buy.

Airism for me doesn’t feel nice, recently I found this brand “Krane隺”, like the material on the back for super hot summer. Anyone interested can consider.
http://xhslink.com/m/5n4mYBfHyxc
https://e.tb.cn/h.hSDq80JC4DcUKHa?tk=LAiS4b6pGSo

The krane one looks promising for its back material construction. And cheap enough to try.
Only thing is whether or not the material is decently smooth / comfy.

But remember, for it to work nicely, need to be body hugging and contact as much of the torso as possible, ie buy smaller sizes.
If not, it merely would just be fast drying properties that you enjoy, but the evaporative cooling property you would not enjoy.

 

[kkkkdllmkkkk]

I think 15km is too early to judge . Unless many runners u know worn the same shoes as u didn't face the same issue by running the same pace as u.

U know whatever I watched YouTube video review . Some of their slow run is 5mins /km . It is actually considered very fast pace for many regular runner

dunno need to train how long to hit 5mins / km loh....

 

[PikaPika33]

actually if really budget
emart not bad

after that is go outlet shops like imm and changi

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

dunno need to train how long to hit 5mins / km loh....

That is IPPT passing mark for like 30 year olds last time. 5:12min/km iirc for 12:30 2.4.
It is quite possible to train for the vast majority lah.... males fail, simply coz little to no training or other physical acitvity/hobbies, and just show up to run expecting the best.

A bit more difficult for those in 50s-60s but still quite possible.

Just run your TTs in 1.609k or 3k distances, 5min/km. That means 3k you need to hit 15 mins timing.
These are real race and recognised distances as well.

 

[DigDub]

Unfortunately for me, i will never go overseas Malaysia....... even driving also i dont do one. Personal reasons.


That's why if interested, then need to interval it several times......not a single continuous long climb of coz but still the end effect is pretty close. . 10X of Mt Faber is +800 metres liao......
Locally, everesting or half everesting is usually done there as well.

Even for running 10k is the max i'd ever raced anyway....... More like 3k, 5k currently for me.......but if got AHM i'd train for 10k distance.
T100 standard duathlon of 10k in 2 run legs and 32k bike is actually painful enough if going for timing, it's already actually slightly longer/higher energy expenditure than a HM.


So seriously if next time i ever wanna TT Mt Faber, is prob just 1x up. Fast and simple, ATP-PC and Glycolytic systems predominantly, plus a decent bit of aerobic. Fast, sharp, simple. Probably not unlike a 1.5k TT run.
It's difficult to TT multi laps, coz of the descent element, ie dangerous.

If only we'd a hill that is 2X longer/higher than mount faber......then that would be similar to our 2.4 liao.
Alas, no such luck.

Anyway he did not start from the main road, so.......

Mt Faber got 2 sides can go up. West coast side easier, Kampong bahru side harder. Both sides I also ok to climb up.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

Mt Faber got 2 sides can go up. West coast side easier, Kampong bahru side harder. Both sides I also ok to climb up.

Yeah i usually only go up (or at least for the first time) via Kg Bahru. Coz i live Tg pagar side.....so just start from Cantonment Rd, Neil rd, Kg Bahru and then reach liao. If it's one of the stops, then also try to route and enter via Kg Bahru side......... find it slightly more challenging.

If interval set usually i just keep it and loop back "immediately" via Morse road side coz downhill descent already considered resting phase of a shorter 2:1 work-rest ratio rep.
If loop back to Kg Bahru side via Telok Blangah road........too far (plus got traffic lights). The recovery duration at a fraction of your FTP power might be too long.

But seriously it basically boils down to around the same, if via Morse road lower gradient, then just use 1 higher gear and ride up faster. Gearing can take care of these small differences. Ultimately still an approx 80m climb of X and Y gradient needing Z duration.


edit- Actually if got racing experience (even if you ever played with cars before) and know how to apex and trail brake and read the road surfaces there, can cheong downhill even, Pender Road straight section before hitting Morse Rd can see how fast you hit.
But dangerous hor, i ever hit the side of my car then back in what....late 1990s against the Mt Faber Road's yellow wall. Costed me over 1k (that time 1k dollars) to repair.

For cyclists, might be a trip to the hospital if understeer or snap oversteer (if there is such a thing for bicycles).
Or if garang gabok cockster, dont know how to read road traction conditions, dont know how to threshold brake or overcook the corner, or corner with the inner leg down instead of outer leg and clip pedals.......then may god bless that fella.

 

[Ender]

buy liao no use abit wasted

real man will persist his passion

Wah lao eh, next time I run past chio bu and look back hope is rcp..

 

[Whispers]

back...again...hope im more consistent this time round, going for a trek in 2 months

easing back after some injuries, slipped disc recurred, knees clicking, some niggling pain that comes n goes

started with 20 mins run, pace about 7:30...rest for 5min then run another 20
3 weeks later, im doing about 6:30-7:00, can run continuously 30 mins, longest was 50 mins

weird thing is...shoulders not as sore now, knees seem to work normally, lower back still a bit sore if push too hard at the end.

hope this continues with no injuries and more importantly DISCIPLINE!

 

[Ender]

Airism for me doesn’t feel nice, recently I found this brand “Krane隺”, like the material on the back for super hot summer. Anyone interested can consider.
http://xhslink.com/m/5n4mYBfHyxc
https://e.tb.cn/h.hSDq80JC4DcUKHa?tk=LAiS4b6pGSo

Looks good for casual wear. But for me, heavy sweater and md distance running, there is no good solution. I don't like sleeved Tees too, coz more surface area to soak up more sweat and makes it heavy

Best compromise for me are vented very light weighted singlet that soak up lesser sweat and stick to yuor body when wet.