jogging and motivation thread

[WussRedXLi]

This might be beneficial for the older fellas here.

 

[Kuudere]

I dun like trails at all lol, however, am thinking I need to start on slopes before SCSM. Maybe Mt Faber or just up and down Cantonment area got one slope.

Mount Faber offers slope running on road surface, only issue is need to keep a close eye on the incoming cars. Could run on sidewalk but I much prefer road since it’s smoother. The hill slope is not too aggressive and best suits long distance running unlike Bukit Timah Hill and Bukit Batok Memorial.

He has come out of nowhere honestly but very skeptical of Kenyan athletes being "clean" atm. Hope he is though, then the world has another teenage phenom

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2025/0...-phanuel-koech-ran-so-fast-in-the-paris-1500/

Interesting article report on him. Basically, he has been smashing workouts, until his previous coach suggested to move him to his current coach since no one can keep up with him. He is a 800m specialist, prefers 800s but the coach assessed him to run 1500 better. His current coach surprised and also can’t explain his talent, considers him to be like Wanyoyi calibre (800m Olympic gold medallist).

Kenyans currently under a lot of doping checks before the World Championships due to many incidences of doping.

I think he has a high chance of being a doper. Or could be generational talent (but doesn’t make sense since he barely raced 1500 and ran world class times already).

 

[xllms]

Is carbon plated shoes from CN suitable for casual runner & on treadmill?

there are many variations of specifications in carbon plated running shoes from CN brands and the usual suspects from International brands (from gentle to super aggressive ones). If you insist on having carbon plated shoes, go for those that are less aggressive (can try the term 全民碳板) since it’s for casual running. Alternatively, you can also go for nylon plated running shoes, which are generally less aggressive than carbon plated ones. If you want to save cost and help yourself to build up running abilities, perhaps non plated running shoes that go well with your running mechanics, fit and gait will be a more appropriate choice.

 

[Ender]

Anyone signed up for SCSM full marathon. I just saw a FB post from official SCSM and it stated that both FM and HM are already 95% sold out. I dunno it is true or not coz I remb last year during late Nov 2024 ,still have slot for FM. I am interested in FM but don't want to commit coz I scared I might end up under trained ..

Hardly anyone who did their first marathon felt they have trained properly. Most go in with some form of anxiety they are not ready yet. And yes, the experience for the first one is usually terrible for most is us.

 

[xllms]

the last 250-300m was very impressive

 

[kkkkdllmkkkk]

there are many variations of specifications in carbon plated running shoes from CN brands and the usual suspects from International brands (from gentle to super aggressive ones). If you insist on having carbon plated shoes, go for those that are less aggressive (can try the term 全民碳板) since it’s for casual running. Alternatively, you can also go for nylon plated running shoes, which are generally less aggressive than carbon plated ones. If you want to save cost and help yourself to build up running abilities, perhaps non plated running shoes that go well with your running mechanics, fit and gait will be a more appropriate choice.

i just had a quick jog (3km with 6 min 30 secs pace) with Qiaodan Wind (nylon plated) and dun really enjoy it. quite stiff. in fact Bmai Jingtan Fly was much more enjoyable at the same pace....

can recommend forefoot foot bouncy china shoes? with or without nylon plate...

 

[Ender]

i just had a quick jog (3km with 6 min 30 secs pace) with Qiaodan Wind (nylon plated) and dun really enjoy it. quite stiff. in fact Bmai Jingtan Fly was much more enjoyable at the same pace....

can recommend forefoot foot bouncy china shoes? with or without nylon plate...

I just ran in the Li Ning Red Hare Pro 8 last night. Very enjoyable ride. It has a green color plate underneath. Don't know if it's nylon or not. This shoe is beginning to be among my favorite ride along with NB rebel 3.

 

[basic___]

I applied for PEN A for Stanchart HM and used my 2XU results as evidence for sub 1:45. Not sure if the committee will accept my 2XU results since there are not many HM races locally apart from 2XU, Garmin and the ECO Run

 

[Ender]

@xllms

Just did a 30 min recovery run with the new Eleos 361. Tapering a bit before this Sunday's Lazada run. As Ender mentioned, definitely not as bouncy and soft as Novablast 3. However, for recovery, it is pretty cushioned and stable. Really good recovery and easy pace pair of shoes while NB can be used if needed for higher paces.

Yes very stable shoes. and well protected and supported. So this shoe is an excellent recovery shoe coz it is gentle on a fatigue legs from all those cumulative training loads.
But I would not want to run in the Eleos for anything more than 1 hour. The upper is too plush for my liking. Padding here and there, ankle support. The very things that makes it a good recovery shoes is what I dislike for taking it out for a long run. Those who like this plush feel, a long run in the shoe is highly suitable due to it's thick and responsive cushion, not energy absorbing. It has the right resilience

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

Mount Faber offers slope running on road surface, only issue is need to keep a close eye on the incoming cars.

Could run on sidewalk but I much prefer road since it’s smoother. The hill slope is not too aggressive and best suits long distance running unlike Bukit Timah Hill and Bukit Batok Memorial.

Sidewalk quite dangerous for Kg Bahru side coz it is quite raised from the road (it is not only a normal height kerb). Runners no front illum one, so if mis-step when it is dark and/or cloudy during morning, that is it.

Mt Faber best to use rear lights and preferably front lights as well. Red rear front white.

Vast majority of joggers do not use lights even just after daybreak before 8am when it is not very bright yet plus the canopy sheltering effect....that place's kinda background is very easy to camouflage yourself against one. For cyclists is if they wear muted earthy colours from brands like PNS but presents an issue only when their only light runs out (best is to operate 2 lights at any one time, idiot proof then).

Ok i understand for parks and PCNs, but whenever there is any road element, just use.......clip to the belt or shoes or something. If shoes, can just use solid lights coz already got motion built in. Belt can flash.

I ever had fellow runners snickering at me before coz i always run with lights, quite a few times liao.
Even aunties also. I hope i dont have the last laugh in a few years or what......when i see them needing medical assistance on the road or something, coz some of us all use the same routes over and over and over again.

 

[kkkkdllmkkkk]

I just ran in the Li Ning Red Hare Pro 8 last night. Very enjoyable ride. It has a green color plate underneath. Don't know if it's nylon or not. This shoe is beginning to be among my favorite ride along with NB rebel 3.

i think this red hare pro 8 is non plated. how does it compare with NB rebel v3 / 4?

 

[xllms]

i just had a quick jog (3km with 6 min 30 secs pace) with Qiaodan Wind (nylon plated) and dun really enjoy it. quite stiff. in fact Bmai Jingtan Fly was much more enjoyable at the same pace....

can recommend forefoot foot bouncy china shoes? with or without nylon plate...

can try a pair that i am using and loving it as a all-purpose non-plated shoe: PEAK 匹克 千层浪
you can search for Chinese reviewers comments on this pair, which is a trainer that goes well in various paces.

And LINING 李宁赤兔 Pro 8 is also a possible option based on online reviews, and based on Deepseek, it is carbon-plated, 6.5cm from forefoot to arch. But I don't have one to provide further insights.

 

[Ender]

i think this red hare pro 8 is non plated. how does it compare with NB rebel v3 / 4?

I don't have rebel 4.
If you like softer cushion, rebel 3.
Red hare 8 pro is firmer, but that is also responsive and resilience. Very good as a daily trainer. I can see myself alternating between these two and the QD 强风3TR for daily runs. Rebel 3 and red hard for the longer runs.

 

[kkkkdllmkkkk]

can try a pair that i am using and loving it as a all-purpose non-plated shoe: PEAK 匹克 千层浪
you can search for Chinese reviewers comments on this pair, which is a trainer that goes well in various paces.

And LINING 李宁赤兔 Pro 8 is also a possible option based on online reviews, and based on Deepseek, it is carbon-plated, 6.5cm from forefoot to arch. But I don't have one to provide further insights.

how does the PEAK 匹克 千层浪 fit? i had a really tough time reading all the reviews for qiao dan and bmai, heng got the suitable size

I don't have rebel 4.
If you like softer cushion, rebel 3.
Red hare 8 pro is firmer, but that is also responsive and resilience. Very good as a daily trainer. I can see myself alternating between these two and the QD 强风3TR for daily runs. Rebel 3 and red hard for the longer runs.

i'm fine with firmer but will definitely need responsive... actually NB rebel V4 is really a not bad shoes... buying the nylon plate qd is for fun cos wanted to try nylon plate and it's like $40+...

 

[xllms]

my z2 hr can only be done with brisk walking, once i do any forms of jogging it will shoot into z3 easily in summer conditions

reviewing my above comment, i think for summer i really need to have proper warm up, eg. some stretchings and start with walking before transitioning into slow jog to maintain in z2. But in cooler weather (below single digit to below 20degC), i can start slow jogging after some typical stretching and maintain it. The cooler the weather, the longer i can maintain z2.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[milkiee]

@Ender and I signed up and maybe a few others. I always signup if I do SCSM when it is early bird. Not cheap but much cheaper than no early bird

i signed up for SCSM too! my first ever FM!

 

[xllms]

how does the PEAK 匹克 千层浪 fit? i had a really tough time reading all the reviews for qiao dan and bmai, heng got the suitable size


i'm fine with firmer but will definitely need responsive... actually NB rebel V4 is really a not bad shoes... buying the nylon plate qd is for fun cos wanted to try nylon plate and it's like $40+...

it feels roomy at the toes area. The shoe is designed like a slow LSD shoe (large forefoot and generally generous rear coverage in the outsoles) but runs well in wide range of paces. In the middle part it fits snuggly but not to the point of uncomfortable, to me it is just nice. As I supinate, especially more on my left, i appreciate the cut out at the inner side of the midsole at the arch area, which helps to balance my pronation issue. It fits me very well and has become my go-to shoe if i can only bring one pair for travel (jalan jalan + running). You can find out more in the reviews below.
VIDEO REVIEWS on PEAK 匹克千层浪 from some of the more established running shoe reviews in China:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1B77fzoE59/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.13
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sfTvzLEif/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.-1
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sdEvzqEw7/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.0

Re. NB Rebel v4, agree it is a nice plateless shoe to run, very good energy return and runs well in various paces, but too soft for me, especially if i go slow and land more in my heel than fore to mid foot.
if you want to a really fun shoe to run at tempo/threshold pace, can try the carbon plated QIAODAN 飞影PB3.0 or the enhanced version launched this year. Top 3 running shoes in my collection.

 

[sph777]

i signed up for SCSM too! my first ever FM!

@Skyrillex I think trying for sub 3 local haha