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The place I'm considering has accomodation in dorm (individual rooms though) so the feel is more community. I don't like homestays as I prefer my own space.

Four weeks (at most 5) is about all I can afford. The course is an intensive one though. My masters degree already cost a fortune so I have to start looking for a job once I'm back in Singapore permanently. Anyway my Japanese foundation is already there; what I want to focus on is conversation.

4 weeks is a bit too short...

Try those that will allow u 2 stay in a host family, this will enable u 2 learn more in the "informal" context...

i previously had cultural exchanges .... It is fun and u can make lots of friends and also penpals that will help u brush up ur Jap... :D
 

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have just went to bunka, ikoma and hougang to take a look.

Find bunka special syllabus kind of interesting...seems more adapt to adult learners..? But the classroom looks really cramp to me...

Ikoma environment is most conducive for learning (at least to me), i the kind that like more personal space...the textbook looks fine to me... the kind of very traditional one, ohayo gozaimas, chen desu etc...though seem less exciting than bunka...

Dun really like hougang textbook...

So now struggling between ikoma and hougang

Anyone has studied in both BUNKA and IKOMA? Can please help to give some advise here? what's the pros and cons for doing it in either school? Please help. THanks so much!

i study at BUNKA. and i must say the pace is really fast. i am not sure about how good the textbook is cos i haven seen ikoma's textbook to compare.

I am quite satisfied with BUNKA's teaching pace cos ikoma seems to be really really slow. My teacher was Ms Tatai in BUNKA for you guys' info haha.

So if anyone of you guys wanna learn Elementary 1 Japanese in the shortest amount of time, BUNKA is the place for you. BUNKA teaches grammar very well too. the 6 forms of verbs.
 

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i study at BUNKA. and i must say the pace is really fast. i am not sure about how good the textbook is cos i haven seen ikoma's textbook to compare.

I am quite satisfied with BUNKA's teaching pace cos ikoma seems to be really really slow. My teacher was Ms Tatai in BUNKA for you guys' info haha.

So if anyone of you guys wanna learn Elementary 1 Japanese in the shortest amount of time, BUNKA is the place for you. BUNKA teaches grammar very well too. the 6 forms of verbs.

i am in the same class as u.=:p
 

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hey guys, i wonder can you all translate this phrase to japanese for me, in hiragana only thou.

"I hope to live in japan when i'm older."
"Thanks Sensei, hope to see you again."

Need it for my letter writing test. :s13:

ありがとございます。
 

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i study at BUNKA. and i must say the pace is really fast. i am not sure about how good the textbook is cos i haven seen ikoma's textbook to compare.

I am quite satisfied with BUNKA's teaching pace cos ikoma seems to be really really slow. My teacher was Ms Tatai in BUNKA for you guys' info haha.

So if anyone of you guys wanna learn Elementary 1 Japanese in the shortest amount of time, BUNKA is the place for you. BUNKA teaches grammar very well too. the 6 forms of verbs.

Thanks for the infor alternarist.

is Ms Tatai good? any other good teachers to recommend at bunka?

I realised the founder only wrote textbook for elementary 1 and 2, what happen to intermediate? what textbook do you use for intermediate at bunka?

thanks.
 

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The place I'm considering has accomodation in dorm (individual rooms though) so the feel is more community. I don't like homestays as I prefer my own space.

Four weeks (at most 5) is about all I can afford. The course is an intensive one though. My masters degree already cost a fortune so I have to start looking for a job once I'm back in Singapore permanently. Anyway my Japanese foundation is already there; what I want to focus on is conversation.

I see, which part of Japan are u staying in?

Since u have JLPT 2 certification, i believe some japanese companies will hire u... :D
 

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Thanks for the infor alternarist.

is Ms Tatai good? any other good teachers to recommend at bunka?

I realised the founder only wrote textbook for elementary 1 and 2, what happen to intermediate? what textbook do you use for intermediate at bunka?

thanks.

well all the teachers are good. I Cant compare cos i only studied under one teacher before.. XD

I am going to study Elementary 2 next month. Not too sure about intermediate.. sorry!!

u sit where? i am not gal btw...:s7:

then u cant be in my class cos i am the only guy in my class :)

I study Elementary 1 fri, 630 - 930 pm.

29 aug gonna start elementary 2. teacher is Ms Suga.
 

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Hi can anyone tell me how the JLPT prep course in JCS is conducted? Do they just go through past papers or is there something more? Thanks
 

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well all the teachers are good. I Cant compare cos i only studied under one teacher before.. XD

I am going to study Elementary 2 next month. Not too sure about intermediate.. sorry!!



then u cant be in my class cos i am the only guy in my class :)

I study Elementary 1 fri, 630 - 930 pm.

29 aug gonna start elementary 2. teacher is Ms Suga.

sorry i thought u in ele 1 sat class.:s13:
 

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Hi can anyone tell me how the JLPT prep course in JCS is conducted? Do they just go through past papers or is there something more? Thanks

yup. they will require you to do lots of past year papers (most prep schools do. its like doing ten-year series for your "O"s) and go through them, explaining meanings and vocab, usage in the process.

which level of JLPT are you taking this year ?
 

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hey guys, i wonder can you all translate this phrase to japanese for me, in hiragana only thou.

"I hope to live in japan when i'm older."
"Thanks Sensei, hope to see you again."

Need it for my letter writing test. :s13:

ありがとございます。

eh... i try to help you. i'm not very confident of this; and you may choose to ask from advise someone who is more pro. (as i have not written japanese stuff for some time, it has kinda gone rusty) after all, this is your writing test, so better not screw up....

「何時か日本に住みたいと思っています。」 (いつかにほんにすみたいとおもっています。)
(literal trans. : I wish to live in Japan someday)
いつか - Someday
にほんに - In Japan
すみたい - wish to live
とおもっています - I have been thinking; I'm wishing to...

Depending on what letter you are writing, for example, if you are writing to your friend, you can say just stop at "すみたい". However, because you next sentence tells me that you are writing this to your sensei, it is better to use the "とおもっています". It strengthens the phrase "" and speaks of your strong desire (to live in japan someday). it also makes the sentence more formal.

「私は先生に本当に感謝しています。 また何時かお会いにしましょう。」 (わたしはせんせいにほんとうにかんしゃしています。またいつかおあいにしましょう。)
(literal trans. : i'm really thankful towards teacher. let's meet again someday. )
わたしは - I am
せんせいに - towards teacher
にほんとうに - really
かんしゃしています - thankful
また - again
いつか - someday
おあい - meet
にしましょう - let's do...

this is less formal, to be honest. and for myself, i can't really differentiate whether this is good enough because it is more geared towards a letter to a friend. if your teacher is okay with this, you can use this.

OR you can use the one below:

「先生のおかげで、私は日本語を上手に出来ておりります。私は何時か先生にも一度お目にかかりたいと思っております。」 (せんせいのおかげで、わたしはわたしはじょうずにできております。わたしはいつかせんせいにもいちどおめにかかりたいとおもっております。)
(literal trans. : Thanks to Teacher, my Japanese has become good. I wish to meet teacher again someday.)
せんせいの - Teacher's
おかげで - Due to (someone's) efforts
わたしは - I am
じょうずに - good/skillful
できております-doing it
いつか - someday
もいちど - once again
おめにかかりたい - to meet (formal form)
とおもっております - wishing to / thinking to (do something)

this is very formal. i'm not sure if you have been taught till this level yet, but you can use it. to make it less formal, just change the "ております" to "ています" (because if you are too formal, it may make it look like hyprocritical formality - see here.) i don't really know how your teachers are and what your teachers are looking for, so you might need to change a bit to suit their styles.

and i'm not sure if "出来て" can be used in this way. as i use japanese more with friends than official/formal parties, there's a level of difference. with friends, your japanese can be rotten but as long as you get the points and meanings across, it is okay. however with the official/formal parties, you need to get the grammar correct.

hope this helps you.

*point to note: Teachers, in the Japanese culture, are deemed to be respectful figures. no matter how friendly they are, you are still expected to give them respect. In poly or uni where we could chit-chat, crack jokes, play or maintain a friend-friend relationship with our lecturers, it is impossible to do this with Japanese teachers. you may crack a few light jokes and be friendly with them, but on the whole, they still require the respect. In this case, your letter will require a certain level of formality here, considering the fact that you are writing to your sensei and not your ordinary friend.
 

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I would think that the below is what you are looking for.

もっと成長(せいちょう)してから、日本に住みたいんです。
When i grow up a bit more, i want to live in Japan. (literal translation+emphasis that you wish to stay in Japan)
先生、どうもありがとうございます。いつかまた会いたいん(あいたいん)です。
Teacher, Thank you very much. I want to see you someday again)

Like what ender has said, i think it's very important to know in style you need to write your sentence in.
普通形(plain form)
丁寧形(polite form)
敬語(ultra polite form)

You can refer to here for more info.
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/honorhum.html

enderさん、お疲れ様でした!
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Has anyone gone on those cultural immersion programs in Japan before. I'm looking at those short programs of about 4 weeks. I'll be graduating from my masters program at the end of this year and I thought I'd like to spend a couple of weeks polishing my Japanese before I go back to work. My Japanese is at JLPT 2 level but alas my conversational abilities are limited plus I feel I've hit a plateau in terms of learning in Singapore. If anyone is familiar with such programs I'd be very happy to hear your opinion of them.

I see, which part of Japan are u staying in?

Since u have JLPT 2 certification, i believe some japanese companies will hire u... :D

Sorry to say so, but i doubt so.
In Japan, you have to have JLPT 1 to work there. This is definite, unless you are working as table-waiting and stuff like that - those aren't really called work, they are more or less known as baito. (something like temp jobs)

In Singapore, it is very rare. Previously, yes, companies will hire you as long as you have JLPT 2. but the situation is changing, nowadays, a lot of companies ask for JLPT 1 when Japanese is required. I used to think that as long as i get JLPT 2 is good enough, but now, it is not good enough. there are jobs that ask for min. JLPT 2, but there's not many left.

As for cultural immersion program...i have seen homestays mostly. there's a company in singapore who does this, if i didn't remember wrongly. They promoted a homestay program on a poster at JCS noticeboard last year, so if you have any friends who studies at JCS, you might want to ask the person to keep a lookout for you.
 

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Thanks alot guys, well i already did my test, but thanks for the help.

Anyway, any idea where to buy this book?

-Minna no Nihongo Elementary 1-1(3A Corporation)

I taking up Japan Language course in poly, wanna study ahead first haha.
 
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