MRT problem… what’s your solution

[Spike]

Fine SMRT 10% of annual profits, deduct SMRT top management 10% annual compensation, and no performance bonus for each major incident.

 

[ZhuMingQiang]

Do you find some line got a problem?
eg NEL, it’s already fully packed at Sengkang… and the subsequent stations passengers are unable to board…

means those at the middle of the lines towards the city or interchange will not be able to board the train because it’s full.

Offer morning peak hours 50% off fare discount for the earlier passengers from 5.30am to 7.30am for the NEL.

Increase more operational travelling trains to cater the larger passengers crowd during the morning peak hours.

 

[askxyz]

take first train go office at 630 problem easily solved .

WFH better solution

 

[Can Or Not]

Fine SMRT 10% of annual profits, deduct SMRT top management 10% annual compensation, and no performance bonus for each major incident.

 

[elloz123]

There’s no problem at all. It’s a feature not a bug.

 

[HirotoXeno]

Can board one. Just that a lot of selfish idiots don’t want to move in.

Need hire staffs to push them In like Japan?

 

[laksamaihum]

there are also some stations they can "cut in" the middle and skipping all the stations at the end so that more ppl can board from the middle

for e.g. east-west line from far east to town, they sometimes have trains that start from tanah merah during peak hours and skip all the tampines and pasir ris ppl

for paya lebar circle line sometimes there are also trains starting in the middle track from paya lebar

NEL should have some stations which are like that too. if not then it was bad design right from the start and nothing much can be helped apart from lower population or building alternate MRT lines.

All these skipping train stations means the train depot at the receiving end and the interim depot need to cater for demand and the entire rail network is not fully utilised just in time = lose $$

There are 2 directions for train travel, if one is 100% utilised and the other is 20% utilised, then it is effectively consuming only 60% of total passenger capacity in the rail network. That is a huge opportunity for growth in the other direction

Get EDB to fund building of office spaces all over the heartland areas, then comes where is the push factor?

Come to think of it, SLA/URA should not have sold those plots right next to MRT for mixed use development (retail below, condo above). Wasted opportunity to park prime office lots right there

 

[Can Or Not]

My proposal is to stop new citizens and PR from applying for or buying flats in those towns.

this is a joke… you very cartoon

 

[Can Or Not]

Need hire staffs to push them In like Japan?

Use bulldozers…

 

[Can Or Not]

make the MRT station holding area bigger ...

not necessary the train station but outlying area ...

with seating ... to rook at digital board showing details of trains and how long more to next train ...

... so that less crowd on the platforms, which is overcrowded in many stations in many peak hours



in normal day tis is fine, pple just squeeze then go can liao ...

... but during unexpected situation surely ...

stampede and death from fire injury

It’s quite scary when the train breaks down… this really can happen and if it coincides with holiday… the crowd management measures must be there

 

[CanIsayNo]

Wait for next train, if still full, wait for next one again. Do the decision makers really care?

 

[havetheveryfun]

It’s quite scary when the train breaks down… this really can happen and if it coincides with holiday… the crowd management measures must be there

thats why sometimes i think to my self for all our anti-terror efforts, actually so easy for them in sg.

just find some way to jam up the train lines can already. and is not that hard for those train lines that are out in the open. auto risk of stampede happening anytime.

 

[Lemonkey]

looking at other country, we are still better. still got room to squeeze

 

[BohemianSG]

Do you find some line got a problem?
eg NEL, it’s already fully packed at Sengkang… and the subsequent stations passengers are unable to board…

means those at the middle of the lines towards the city or interchange will not be able to board the train because it’s full.

The mistake was rationalising the bus services. They should have kept the bus services operating.

 

[Can Or Not]

The mistake was rationalising the bus services. They should have kept the bus services operating.

Simi is rationalising bus service?

 

[tuxguy]

Do you find some line got a problem?
eg NEL, it’s already fully packed at Sengkang… and the subsequent stations passengers are unable to board…

means those at the middle of the lines towards the city or interchange will not be able to board the train because it’s full.

The main problem causing the issue is train frequency. It can be solved by increasing train frequency but they won’t not do it cos it would increase cost.

They are striving for optimal train capacity instead of passenger comfort with more space

 

[HushiePuppies]

Do you find some line got a problem?
eg NEL, it’s already fully packed at Sengkang… and the subsequent stations passengers are unable to board…

means those at the middle of the lines towards the city or interchange will not be able to board the train because it’s full.

can implement during peak hour to run express trains.

1. Identify stations which has relatively higher passengers (e.g. Punggol, Seng Kang)
2. Run Limited Express trains which goes directly from Punggol / Seng Kang to the city stations. Since these trains usually packed like sardine after Hougang, no point stopping them. This will also allow those who are going to the nearer stations to use the other trains, reducing passenger loads.
3. Use reverse direction train as buffer. (e.g. you have limited express trains stopping at Dhoby ghaut then passengers take normal train reverse direction if they want to go little india, farrer park. It's still saves more time than taking the train and stop at each station.
4. Improve infrastructure for alternate tracks so limited express trains don't have to wait for standard trains.
5. Use data to optimise the train flow (requires longer time but once optimised, it will be very smooth)

 

[HushiePuppies]

The main problem causing the issue is train frequency. It can be solved by increasing train frequency but they won’t not do it cos it would increase cost.

They are striving for optimal train capacity instead of passenger comfort with more space

train frequency can only increase so much due to how much infrastructure can support.

suppose now Punggol to DG can support 100 trains, you increase to 150 trains, means trains have to start waiting in between stations for the earlier trains to leave. This end up just create congestion. Also, the stopping and going of trains leads to a phantom jam.

In simpler terms: Imagine a line of trains. If the first train stops at a station, the train behind it will also stop halfway. This continues down the line, creating a wave of train stopping and going, even though there's nothing wrong with the track itself.

 

[tuxguy]

train frequency can only increase so much due to how much infrastructure can support.

suppose now Punggol to DG can support 100 trains, you increase to 150 trains, means trains have to start waiting in between stations for the earlier trains to leave. This end up just create congestion. Also, the stopping and going of trains leads to a phantom jam.

In simpler terms: Imagine a line of trains. If the first train stops at a station, the train behind it will also stop halfway. This continues down the line, creating a wave of train stopping and going, even though there's nothing wrong with the track itself.

what you said is true but I believe at the current state, there is still room to increase frequency

 

[pwongkk]

Find work outside of town area.

Will not work as you still need to take the train to other suburbs.

Sengkang area not much industries.

The mrt design is bad, no forward thinkkng. In the planning, there should be a 3rd track, with an express train serving only a few stations in the line.

The only solution is to reduce the number of economic refugees population here by 50%, eventually to 75%. This will relieve the strain on the infrastructure.