NSW on a Campervan

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@Honda91, allow me to map your route out for you.

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Frankly, where else have you already been and not repeating visit? You seem to be avoiding some best parts.
btw, who;s wendy and julian? (if you no kids)

Your plan looks like the fastest and most convenient Coast-to-Coast route Hate to point it out, but I'm concerned about your tentative itinenary, which lacks some nice sights, thrills and adventures.

Just a few cautions in your plan:-
1) Driving
i see 383+700km in a day?...Although your are driving 110km/h. With stoppages for snapshots, 15 mins car-naps, brown tourist signs turnoffs, toilet/smoke/coffee breaks, meals, grocery/snacks shopping, your touring speed is realsistically 50km/h only. Take a stretch/walk every 60-90 mins driving. Pls work out your drive day, based on 50km/h. (Thus 4 hrs/200km - 6 hrs/300km per day). Not forgetting for your trip period, the sky after lunch 2pm is already dimming like our 6pm, and dark by 5pm.

my normal routine (winter) is:-
8pm rise & shine, make & eat breakfast
9 am : nua/explore around campsite,
10am: drive off or hike off (if parked spot is attraction area)
1 pm : lunch (Eat-out, save daylight time)
2pm: 2nd destination drive or hike
5-6 pm Watch sunset, look for campsite, (kickball with kids), settle in.campfire, cooking.
6 - 9 pm Cook, bbq & eat and washing up, bonfire chats/story-telling.
9 pm Games, surfing/reading, movies (fishing this coming trip around)
11pm-12am kong out.

Thus 3-4 hours/200km drive a day is at nice relaxing pace and cover enough ground for us.
For us, usually the day aggregates with 3 hours drive and 3-4 hours : visit/foot exploration of attraction sites

2) Drive Sceneries
Your route is mostly coastal, will vomit blood seeing hundred miles of beaches/ocean surfs, too many days in a stretch. Best to alternate routes between sea, farmland, outback every 2-3 days esp on the East Coast drive.

3) Sightseeing

You seem to be missing several good destinations:
- Basselton+Margaret+Pemberton+Albany Area, (unless you been)
- Alice+Uluru+Cooperpeddy (the Real Outback),
- and esp the reputed National Parks for nice bush walks and hikes.

Give Snowy inland a miss, most in-roads closed, small winter resort cf. other countries (Note; it is the only ski area in Australia). Coastal Mel-Syd has more to see, eg walruses up-close (feeding distance) lying on rocks./ Kiama blowhole / nice undulating hills drives alongside meadows, interpersed with seaside towns/resorts.

If you have done other NPs, Blue mountain/3 sisters is pathetic, nothing more than the closest nature outlet/view for Sydney ppl/ touch-go tourists.

4) Adventures

Insert some adventures in your trip, to spice up your tour:-
Dirt Riding WestMoto Park(2 hrs NE of Perth, do together with Pinnacle?)
Mountain Biking, Abseiling, Baloon/Buggy/Dune Rides (several places)
Kite rides, Sky diving, Base Jumping???...lol

For mild thrills, many NPs hikes have interesting challenges, eg. suspension bridges, crevices/cave hikes, ladder climbs, glass walkways, within them, just not publicised much.

Fishing, bait or fly fishing?...(can't comment yet, beginer)

Re-look at my suggestion. I believe it's quite balanced, and span out yr extra 8 days better.
You'll still get your marathon driving from Day 10 to Day18..

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5) Wildlife
Cape LeGrande NP is a rare place in OZ where you have kangaroos living on the beach, or you can have breakfast with wallabies in Grampians, together with some nice rock hikes/climbs, so does Porongarup NP, and its glass skywalks. In small inland towns' hilltops, look up the trees, you can catch koala bears perched up there, sometimes in pairs. or wombats wandering. Along road to Pinnacles, there is a park stop with koalas / wombats too. Even penguins sunset beaching can catch at 12 apostles or further west beaches along Port Campbell and Port Fairy (these sites must read up from OZ/TW forums). As for crocodiles, must go for Northern Territory. All the things you see in OZ tourism ads, real and free, no need pay $30 each to visit animal zoos/farms/philip Island. (Our zoo is already the best in the world).

Maybe we are more into National Parks hopping, as opposed to your City-hopping.
But cities are normal in OZ,it's the wild and the landscape, that's the Aussie thing!
 
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hihi,

yup .. i got no kid yet. wendy and julian are my sister and her bf.
julian is studying there, so tot of meeting them up for 1 or 2 days.

thanks for the mapping out, very nicely done up...

anyway, though we wanted do something more adventurous like our last trip, but we cant. wife is pregnant, estimate she will be 6month pregnant by then. so this tripwill be more of a sightseeing chill and trip.

i have done the entire west and south OZ last yr hence will be skipping all the place you mention in the south.

initially wanted to do some inland driving to uluru, but base on my research, there isnt a route to lead us from esperance to uluru directly. got to do a detour route to port augusta and fr there got inland to uluraand back from the same route, find it abit waste of time.
but anyway base on ur 2nd map, kindly advised more detail on the route to uluru.

snowy mountain is a must as we always wanted to visit there. dun mind hitting the extra miles to go there and reroute back to melb and travel by the coast to hit sydney.

Npark hopping is not bad of a idea, enjoy the wild landscape alot.
is there a npark holiday pass where we can purchase?
last yr i bought a 3 month holiday pass for npark hoping when i was in WA
the pass only cost us about $49aud if im not wrong. unlimited entries to all npark across WA

btw, base on ur 2nd map route fr esperance to alice spring.is there like supermarket or small town in between? is public toilet easily accessible?
unlike the last trip, i think this time round, my wife will needto keep going to the wash room and also fresh food for.
and by travelling the mention route, we need not clear the border villiage aka "clear custom" to go the eastern part ?
 

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Pregnant better not marathon drive too much, otherwise bb giddy inside..light bushwalks are good.

In winter, many NP are unmanned, hard to justify a solo staff with the few visitors. Usually voluntary donations, at your own discretion. Popular Nparks knocks off at 5pm, if arrived after, free entry and use for the next morning.
 

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AutoSleepers / Allseasons
camper.com.au
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Good new vehicles and service, reasonable, value add, no hidden costs, airport pickup 5 mins away. (Last Monday)
Campchairs, table, extra linens thrown in. No traffic citation admin fee. Toll reading/debit included. Cash deposit accepted. (We left SGD2600 cash each, saving on 2 way currency exchange loss). Very understanding compassionate renters (do not work with agents). 4-6 berths vans available.

LLeaving to return fussiness on wear/tear to review further.
 
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Rent with Autosleepers / Allseasons camper.com.au is smooth and economical. No fuss checkout and return, in fact manager thrown in a kid booster seat, otherwise $55 per rent. Saving more than $500 on both rentals on 16 day trip, with abovementioned perks.

Their tent-canopy came in handy on drizzly evenings. All their mid-vans seats 4 on paper. Technically Eurocamper and HiLux4 seats 5, or sleeps 5 (if 1 is willing to sleep front cabin with its laid out 3 front seaters).
Their top deck beds are reinforced, and takes up to 150kg (sleeps 2 light adults), unlike Britz/Apollo flimsy wood up to 50kg only.

Eurocamper is very fuel-economical (7litres on 100km). Hitop is a drinker, about 11litres/100lm
Will try out their 4-berth toyota HILux on next trip, def. more spacious. Highly recommended.
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Sydney-Sydney (HQ) + East Coast travels only rentals enjoy extra 25% or 2-for-1 week discounts.
Need call Mark direct.
 
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hihi,

yup .. i got no kid yet. wendy and julian are my sister and her bf.
julian is studying there, so tot of meeting them up for 1 or 2 days.

thanks for the mapping out, very nicely done up...

anyway, though we wanted do something more adventurous like our last trip, but we cant. wife is pregnant, estimate she will be 6month pregnant by then. so this trip will be more of a sightseeing chill and trip.

i have done the entire west and south OZ last yr hence will be skipping all the place you mention in the south.

initially wanted to do some inland driving to uluru, but base on my research, there isnt a route to lead us from esperance to uluru directly. got to do a detour route to port augusta and fr there got inland to uluraand back from the same route, find it abit waste of time.
but anyway base on ur 2nd map, kindly advised more detail on the route to uluru.

snowy mountain is a must as we always wanted to visit there. dun mind hitting the extra miles to go there and reroute back to melb and travel by the coast to hit sydney.

Npark hopping is not bad of a idea, enjoy the wild landscape alot.
is there a npark holiday pass where we can purchase?
last yr i bought a 3 month holiday pass for npark hoping when i was in WA
the pass only cost us about $49aud if im not wrong. unlimited entries to all npark across WA

btw, base on ur 2nd map route fr esperance to alice spring.is there like supermarket or small town in between? is public toilet easily accessible?
unlike the last trip, i think this time round, my wife will needto keep going to the wash room and also fresh food for.
and by travelling the mention route, we need not clear the border villiage aka "clear custom" to go the eastern part ?

Now that you told me you've done southwest corner, you should really skip esperance and head from Perth>Waverock>kargoolie>Uluru. This will shave 1 week from your schedule, leaving more time for the central Victoria (Yarra/Snowy/Mt Koiskinov) and East Coast. There is definitely a mapped yellow (meaning paved) highway (see below), with towns (Newberry/Warbuton)/pitstops/amenties, from Kagoorlie to Uluru. but expect some parts to be unpaved (Google navigation does not rcmd partially unpaved roads).

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Seek some advice from local mates in Leonora or Newberry before starting off with full tank for the 500km stretch from Newberry to Warbuton. There will be 'no-amenity for XXX km' warning/advice signs put up before you start too. Last year, we met 2 old couples, doing this same route on their campertrucks, one westwards, one eastwards. (I didn't hear about this highway named after them. They arrived back home well after). I did the 300km of Oodnadatta Track from Marree< SA too with no issues, 10 years ago, at that time dotted line on paper map only (no google maps then). For the extended OZ travellers like you, the Red Rock,Cooperpeddy and the true Outback Drive are must-dos.

So here goes:-
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Actually, Aussie is all about National Parks, landscapes, beaches and some outdoor adventures.
Shopping, food and cities is nothing special in Australia. I wonder what you meant by sightseeing now?

Springbrook National Park (near Gold Coast) provides some nice 2-hours easy hikes, (3 hr for dear preggy), taking you through several waterfalls which you can walk over, under and around. Our companion family, 1st time into hiking, were asking us whether they are man-made...haha. Certainly beautiful, both wild and serene, on par with Dorigo NP walk. Slightly 1 hour west to it, is Border Ranges NP, I heard its awesome too.(leaving for next trip soon)

Doesn't your big rent come with shower/toilet?
Try this, didn't know it exist until this trip...lol
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http://mall.shopee.sg/item/?sid=4149345&iid=15719776 40cts

My waifu and the other mother stated useful to a certain extent..
(into a disposable cup and down the sink), esp when it is too cold at night for a walk to the dark loo.
All long highways will have rest stops with hole or flush loos.

Surprisingly, our NSW-QL-return has no border agri-checks. I don't think you need to buy any NP pass, some worth going some not, many nice ones are free.

Somehow, I feel your $7K rent is way too high for a 40 day rent, and the fuel/bulk not worthwhile for 2 pax.

I heard from Mark (allseasons) they move campers to/fro Perth and Sydney often, costing them $1500 each way. The Hilux 4-berth I mentioned above is indeed spacious for 2, and a low hop for mummy2be into the front cabin, with steps for the back cabin. Your 7-berth truck may be quite a climb into the front cabin for mummy.

You might wanna chat up Mark for a special transfer quote, for 4-berth with toilet/shower (U.p. $125/day), believe they can do under $3K all-in for you. Lose your part deposit, and give them a try. Spent the $4K on good food and baby preps.
 
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From this latest trip, few new tips:

  1. Look for showground campsites in some towns, they provide powered sites/hot showers on the cheap $10/$20 per vehicle, no head count. These are grounds where they hold their horse/campervan/farming eqpt shows, to the like of our convention centres, but huge open space. They do not provide shared kitchens, but nice clean bathrooms. One of them is in Wauchope, midway between Goldcoast and Coffs Harbour, 10km west of Port Macquaire.

  2. Travel with multiple mid-size suitcases. Usually they are stowed overhead, tus easier to bring down and retrieve. Will be clumsy to handle big luggages both in terms of storage and retrieval in the campervans.

  3. For Sydney 'checkin and checkouts', free parking and hot showers at its Life Saving beach Club at Rockdale beach, 3 km south of Sydney Airport, away from runway noise. Many campervans parked/camp there. Goldcoast has one at Mermaid Beach too, with cheap breakfast and dinners too.

  4. On return, multi-task by dropping family at airport to check-in, and solo drive to return campervan, and return via cab/dropoff, than having kids running around during car return processing.

  5. Vivid Lightshow going on scattered around Sydney Harbourfront/ The Rocks every night (until dunno when), quite a spectacle of projection lightshows and lighting ideas/displays.

  6. Untip: no more free parking at scenic Royal Botanic Gardens (rcmd earlier), 6P (24 hours) implemented last year, with ticket machines.

  7. Hack: Get estate agents contacts on airbnb, 1 night thru airbnb, rest deal direct with them on other nights/houses, with steal-earn deals..
 
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Thinking of doing campervaning in Perth next year. what would be the price difference for autumn and winter? I had 40% discount for my NZ trip during winter. How much should I budget rental for 9-10days road trip?

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Now that you told me you've done southwest corner, you should really skip esperance and head from Perth>Waverock>kargoolie>Uluru. This will shave 1 week from your schedule, leaving more time for the central Victoria (Yarra/Snowy/Mt Koiskinov) and East Coast. There is definitely a mapped yellow (meaning paved) highway (see below), with towns (Newberry/Warbuton)/pitstops/amenties, from Kagoorlie to Uluru. but expect some parts to be unpaved (Google navigation does not rcmd partially unpaved roads).

a0U7NC0.jpg


Seek some advice from local mates in Leonora or Newberry before starting off with full tank for the 500km stretch from Newberry to Warbuton. There will be 'no-amenity for XXX km' warning/advice signs put up before you start too. Last year, we met 2 old couples, doing this same route on their campertrucks, one westwards, one eastwards. (I didn't hear about this highway named after them. They arrived back home well after). I did the 300km of Oodnadatta Track from Marree< SA too with no issues, 10 years ago, at that time dotted line on paper map only (no google maps then). For the extended OZ travellers like you, the Red Rock,Cooperpeddy and the true Outback Drive are must-dos.

So here goes:-
f3wilbt.jpg


Actually, Aussie is all about National Parks, landscapes, beaches and some outdoor adventures.
Shopping, food and cities is nothing special in Australia. I wonder what you meant by sightseeing now?

Springbrook National Park (near Gold Coast) provides some nice 2-hours easy hikes, (3 hr for dear preggy), taking you through several waterfalls which you can walk over, under and around. Our companion family, 1st time into hiking, were asking us whether they are man-made...haha. Certainly beautiful, both wild and serene, on par with Dorigo NP walk. Slightly 1 hour west to it, is Border Ranges NP, I heard its awesome too.(leaving for next trip soon)

Doesn't your big rent come with shower/toilet?
Try this, didn't know it exist until this trip...lol
67f6b61e7192224e49aff7b70c1394e0

http://mall.shopee.sg/item/?sid=4149345&iid=15719776 40cts

My waifu and the other mother stated useful to a certain extent..
(into a disposable cup and down the sink), esp when it is too cold at night for a walk to the dark loo.
All long highways will have rest stops with hole or flush loos.

Surprisingly, our NSW-QL-return has no border agri-checks. I don't think you need to buy any NP pass, some worth going some not, many nice ones are free.

Somehow, I feel your $7K rent is way too high for a 40 day rent, and the fuel/bulk not worthwhile for 2 pax.

I heard from Mark (allseasons) they move campers to/fro Perth and Sydney often, costing them $1500 each way. The Hilux 4-berth I mentioned above is indeed spacious for 2, and a low hop for mummy2be into the front cabin, with steps for the back cabin. Your 7-berth truck may be quite a climb into the front cabin for mummy.

You might wanna chat up Mark for a special transfer quote, for 4-berth with toilet/shower (U.p. $125/day), believe they can do under $3K all-in for you. Lose your part deposit, and give them a try. Spent the $4K on good food and baby preps.

hihi,


im back from OZ.

super long trip but yet enjoyable 1

stay in snowy mountain for 3 night, was snowy heavily
was an awesome trip
 

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Hi guys,

I will be traveling on 11aug to 18aug in a campervan (group of 6). It will be from sydney to melbourne. Had already make booking for the trip. Any recommendation for where to visit? Our group is more to sightseeing and exploring.

Hi,
Just join in when see the sharing...i had also booked a 4&6 berth from Maui.. for our Nov trip, but realised some technically wrt the Intetnational Driving Permit (max weight of 3,500kg)... any advise on this?

Lots of ppl said they had no issue with the campervan rental!

Appreciate any advise...

Julian
 

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No need for IDP in Australia, if your spending less than 1 (or 3, forgot) months there. 6-berth still under our class 3.
 

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hihi,


im back from OZ.

super long trip but yet enjoyable 1

stay in snowy mountain for 3 night, was snowy heavily
was an awesome trip
Just realise you posted., and back in a piece..haha. Do share your adventure.
 

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No need for IDP in Australia, if your spending less than 1 (or 3, forgot) months there. 6-berth still under our class 3.

Hi 'touchme',

Thanks for reply...dun mind my asking, which rental company is that?
Cos Maui gave me contradicting reply, one said their 6 Beeth exceeded our weight limits , one said just producea valid IDP will do..

Thks
 

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Hi 'touchme',

Thanks for reply...dun mind my asking, which rental company is that?
Cos Maui gave me contradicting reply, one said their 6 Beeth exceeded our weight limits , one said just producea valid IDP will do..

Thks
Maui too (combined with Britz), on a 7- berth in Perth. For $20 only with AA, mind as well play safe, compulsory for Japan/TW anyway. My quote was like 7 years ago, and transport regulations in Aussie do change regularly.

You 4+6 is extended family tour?
 
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Bro touchme, able to share more about this and feedback on this camper van?


Just booked my 4-berth and Eurocamper from autosleepers.com.au or http://www.allseasonscampervans.com.au/

for a change from hi-top, but still seems no other models/config comes with better space than hi-tops


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4-Berth with/without Shower/Toilet


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Good thing, their vehicles all comes with awnings, and accordingly 2015 models, so claimed.
$59/day each van, with free airport pickup/dropoff for 8 pax, saves 2-way $60 cabfare. (5 mins away)
$2,500 only Security deposit can be placed by cash, saving $125 ccard admin fee. (credit-debit 2.5% x 2-way)

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Thanks, Mark & Suzanne. (+61 2 9556 1301)
Hope it works out well, review when back.
 
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