Official May 2017 BTO

[akloaklo]

Nb this may bto all sure very exp...haiz nv get my punggol

This may will try for bidadari as is near my gf parent but worried about the cost. We both earn mid 3k only.. Cpf combine around 200k. A bit scary to buy a near 600k 4 room flat

 

[LiteHouse]

Nb this may bto all sure very exp...haiz nv get my punggol

This may will try for bidadari as is near my gf parent but worried about the cost. We both earn mid 3k only.. Cpf combine around 200k. A bit scary to buy a near 600k 4 room flat

CPF $200k jin satki liao. $3k salary is not a problem since there is annual increment.

 

[queenbeelena]

Since it's still quite quiet here, let me ask a question:

May I know more about the reason behind the hype about bidadari? I mean obviously Dakota is more central, and both bidadari and Dakota developments are near MRTs. So what makes bidadari stand out?

For Bidadari, there is alot of promises for future development plans. Even though the plans are not yet established, many believe once done the value of the property there will rise. Many of the ppl I know bid for Bidadari with investment mindset. It was heard that it will be developed into a new public housing estate, with a bus interchange, neighbourhood police centre and other community facilities. Other amenities such as places of worship and health and medical care facilities are also planned for the estate.

For Dakota, this time round its surprise ppl with its perfect location location location ! ! Being a mature estate area, there is not much need to promote it.

 

[queenbeelena]

Nb this may bto all sure very exp...haiz nv get my punggol

This may will try for bidadari as is near my gf parent but worried about the cost. We both earn mid 3k only.. Cpf combine around 200k. A bit scary to buy a near 600k 4 room flat

wah combine cpf 200k not enough ?! ... me and my hub combine CPF only 50K, combine salary only 7K and we never even blink eye to bid for 600K house.

 

[sheinked]

my gf and i are hoping to hoot dakota in may bto!
if we want to use MCPS means we only get 1 vote, but if we go for normal bto wifout any scheme we get 2 votes? it is our first time balloting.

read online MCPC like not super advantageous for couples

 

[deskoh91]

my gf and i are hoping to hoot dakota in may bto!
if we want to use MCPS means we only get 1 vote, but if we go for normal bto wifout any scheme we get 2 votes? it is our first time balloting.

read online MCPC like not super advantageous for couples

It is not that it is not advantageous, but so so so many of your fellow competitors are BOTH first-timers and MCPS near parents, so basically there is little advantage. And any advantage is better than none, cos you get to be balloted among the first 30%.

If your parents do not even stay near by, to answer your question, I think your chances are even slimmer, because you will not have your number put within the pool to ballot until those with priorities are done securing theirs

 

[deskoh91]

Nb this may bto all sure very exp...haiz nv get my punggol

This may will try for bidadari as is near my gf parent but worried about the cost. We both earn mid 3k only.. Cpf combine around 200k. A bit scary to buy a near 600k 4 room flat

wah combine cpf 200k not enough ?! ... me and my hub combine CPF only 50K, combine salary only 7K and we never even blink eye to bid for 600K house.

I think this launch could be a little cheaper than the 500+k we saw with the ones further south. Maybe high 400s?

Even then, I also don't dare to take Bidadari with 7k combined man, worried about the stability of the dual income arrangement down the road

 

[queenbeelena]

I think this launch could be a little cheaper than the 500+k we saw with the ones further south. Maybe high 400s?

Even then, I also don't dare to take Bidadari with 7k combined man, worried about the stability of the dual income arrangement down the road

I think lower floors will start 400K++ but the higher floors will definately still be like 500K++ becus they deem this as "prime" location.

of cus we got abit of savings so we are not too worried. tue la its risky. but even if have no savings, i can like sell the house after 5 years and get a downgrade if our income decreases right? i thought its workable.

 

[1982-1994]

till now, i realized geylang BTO is next to dakota MRT.makes me drool.
but can married couple apply for 2 room?
if not, can safely say 3 room cost 350k just like kallang 3room (2016 nov BTO)?

 

[sheinked]

It is not that it is not advantageous, but so so so many of your fellow competitors are BOTH first-timers and MCPS near parents, so basically there is little advantage. And any advantage is better than none, cos you get to be balloted among the first 30%.

If your parents do not even stay near by, to answer your question, I think your chances are even slimmer, because you will not have your number put within the pool to ballot until those with priorities are done securing theirs

Thanks for the clarification. Anyway, it seems that those under MCPS may not necessarily get a decent queue number? We have not check it is within 2km. Regardless, this upcoming BTO is attractive. Even if we do not go ahead with Dakota, Bidadari seems an equally good choice too. Especially the amenities around TPY.

We are keeping our options. Need to compare the prices as both estates, especially for Bidadari. Based on past BTOs, bidadari has always been more expensive. Even with our combined income which puts us at the higher middle income, the $$ is still a major factor to consider

 

[Juljul]

I think this launch could be a little cheaper than the 500+k we saw with the ones further south. Maybe high 400s?

Even then, I also don't dare to take Bidadari with 7k combined man, worried about the stability of the dual income arrangement down the road

May I know why is this launch cheaper than those further south? Is Bartley less "premium" than Woodleigh?

 

[akloaklo]

wah combine cpf 200k not enough ?! ... me and my hub combine CPF only 50K, combine salary only 7K and we never even blink eye to bid for 600K house.

we both 30s liao...realistically I will assume pay will remain stagnant at 3k+ and then we'll need to pay till old also. If reach 40s tio retrenched then jialat have to sell dream home.

 

[jereme310790]

Gonna try the geylang bto in May with my Gf! Any idea on what is the estimated pricing for a 4rm there?

 

[devil0spy]

hi guys, wanna share some insights here about woodlands. currently, both hub & i are staying with my parents here at woodlands. have been staying here for more than 15 years. tbh, i like the feel of woodlands houses. so here are my pov about the upcoming bto woodlands plot:

1. schools
as a newly wed couple, woodlands plot might not interest u as theres no FAMOUS school, but my current neighbor got 282 for her PSLE which AMAZE me considering the fact mentioned above. i guess it got to do w the kid, not really with the school. for secondary schools, theres ALOT of malaysian kids( likely same for primary as well)

2. amenties
this part i dare say among the rest of the available bto area in MAY, this has the best facilities & amenities. why do i say that? well, u can go JB pump petrol easily, or weekend shopping or even cafe hopping(cheaper than SG) its pretty near the public pool too ... if u are a person who doesnt cook, fear not, eating out is wayyyyyy cheaper and woodlands is 1 mrt station away where u can catch a late movie n not worry about cab fare. if u are a person who enjoy cooking, woodlands plot is perfect for u. fruits are dirt cheap at marsilling, if u atas a bit u can go woodlands, if u wanna test ur haggle skills, pls proceed to admiralty. 1 large basket for veg that could feed a family of 4 for 3 days cost u $1 ... hahahhaha

3. traffic/transport
if u drive, u only have 1 option and thats going to the main expressway via wdlds ave 3 which i m happy to say, traffic is smooth in peak hours compared to ave 2 & 12 .... unlikely u ll walk to mrt unless u are not a lazy person like me ... 10 min walk i also take bus ... hahahha but its pretty nice to sit buses as they are pretty clean i must say. marsilling station is approx 10 blocks away ... if u r in heels .... good luck ... hahhaha take bus la ... v fast one peak hour ... mrt to town ... ermmm peak hour ... good luck ... confirm chop stand ALL THE WAY ... but its proven standing can lose weight ya ... hahaha

4. neighbors
cant really guarantee anything ... but u would have a good balance mix of both family n newly wed couples in ur estate ... unlike other non mature estates like punggol or the new yishun ones where mostly 80-90% newly wed couples ... & u dont really know ur neighbor or they have their doors shut almost all the time ... people staying in woodlands are pretty nice ... generally i feel more human staying in woodlands than staying at punggol ... no offence to people staying there but i really dont like punggol ... windy but super dusty, coffee shop is really expensive, cant find anything thats cheap, LRT is sardine packed, traffic to expressway in peak hours is MADNESS ...

5. rental yield.
highly possible ... yield might not b as high as those area near city fringe, but stable yield is expected as many malaysians prefer less travel distance from custom after visiting their family over the weekends.

6. price.
easy on the pocket ... they are not as pricey as mature estates, probably u ll still have surplus in cpf to help u gain that 2% interest ... unless single income sorry cant help u ... pls remember k, you are not buying a home, you are leasing it from HDB, our dear minister say liao ... after 99 years finito ... ur house is worth a big fat ZERO $0/- ... of course if u have money to spare, pls go ahead with mature estates.

to find out more about plans our gar-men has for woodlands do google:
future development woodlands singapore, click one first link by URA


i m still trying to convince my hub to go for woodlands for may bto as my parents are ald staying near there ... he prefers a bto near green / yellow line ... his reason is LAME; green means go(go ahead & buy), yellow means prepare to stop(put in more consideration then buy), red means stop(dont think, dont purchase, danger zone)

btw this is just my pov la ... u can dont believe eh ... hahahha but one thing u must believe: pls do not spend too much $ on renovation, i know u peeps are excited to reno ur 1st home, but i chop stamp for sure u ll sell. and as a potential buyer, if i want to nego price, no matter how much $ u paid for reno or no matter how much i like ur reno, i would say i DONT LIKE. why ? cos i wanna nego. simple as that. some may say, dont like dont buy lor ... sure ... no problem ... but experienced home buyers will say the same thing ... couples that enters house n say wa v nice hor ... cham liao ... seller will not only tell u non nego or even very little room for nego, u probably pay for the next house seller is gonna buy ... u like ah ??

 

[deskoh91]

Thanks for the clarification. Anyway, it seems that those under MCPS may not necessarily get a decent queue number? We have not check it is within 2km. Regardless, this upcoming BTO is attractive. Even if we do not go ahead with Dakota, Bidadari seems an equally good choice too. Especially the amenities around TPY.

We are keeping our options. Need to compare the prices as both estates, especially for Bidadari. Based on past BTOs, bidadari has always been more expensive. Even with our combined income which puts us at the higher middle income, the $$ is still a major factor to consider

Yes, priority schemes merely improve your chances of having your application to be drawn into the ballot, ie you get a shitty number vs you not getting a number at all because it is not selected for the ballot. they do not guarantee a good number.

That is how some very lucky second timers can get a two digit number in an application with a few hundred units, even though only 5% of the units were set aside for them.

May I know why is this launch cheaper than those further south? Is Bartley less "premium" than Woodleigh?

It is cheaper not because it is closer to Bartley, but because it is more or less between two MRT stations rather than being close to either one. I am sure the site closer to Bartley will have a slightly higher selling price than this one too.

I think lower floors will start 400K++ but the higher floors will definately still be like 500K++ becus they deem this as "prime" location.

of cus we got abit of savings so we are not too worried. tue la its risky. but even if have no savings, i can like sell the house after 5 years and get a downgrade if our income decreases right? i thought its workable.

This is always a personal decision between the couple, of course. Just make sure you are comfortable with the leverage and the amount of savings you can set aside while paying for the house. 5 years MOP plus the near 4 years construction time means maintaining the same or a higher income for nearly the entire decade ahead.

 

[deskoh91]

till now, i realized geylang BTO is next to dakota MRT.makes me drool.
but can married couple apply for 2 room?
if not, can safely say 3 room cost 350k just like kallang 3room (2016 nov BTO)?

yes, feel free to take 2-room if you wanna. 350k for 3-room should be about right, judging by trends from Clementi, Bidadari and Kallang, all mature estates.

Gonna try the geylang bto in May with my Gf! Any idea on what is the estimated pricing for a 4rm there?

If it is anything like MacPherson, prices will start from around 465k, which means it will probably be 10 or 15k cheaper than the May 17 Bida-Payoh launch. I could be wrong though, and they could cost about the same and make the decision even tougher for all the balloting hopefuls in the next launch

hi guys, wanna share some insights here about woodlands. ...

thanks for the sharing! agree with you on lack of good schools around, what would be a good school to attend in the north then? the amenities are really good for those willing to cross to JB, but the customs are so crowded my experience with BKE on that stretch is traffic can be quite heavy during peak due to the backlog from jams on the Causeway, isn't it?

 

[LiteHouse]

It is not that it is not advantageous, but so so so many of your fellow competitors are BOTH first-timers and MCPS near parents, so basically there is little advantage. And any advantage is better than none, cos you get to be balloted among the first 30%.

If your parents do not even stay near by, to answer your question, I think your chances are even slimmer, because you will not have your number put within the pool to ballot until those with priorities are done securing theirs

Can say MCPS is very satki. So many got small queue numbers for Feb 2017 BTO thread.

 

[1982-1994]

small queue no meaning double digits? I'm in the middle. consider good?

 

[deskoh91]

Can say MCPS is very satki. So many got small queue numbers for Feb 2017 BTO thread.

But cases of MCPS with crap number is not rare either And sir 1982-1994 had a middle one. This thus shows MCPS really have little bearing on queue number.

Put it another way, if one made an application under the MCPS with parents scheme that gets balloted before MCPS near parents, the application can be randomly allocated into a larger range of numbers, so your probability of getting a good number is higher.

The MCPS near parents applicants will then have their applications randomly allocated into all the numbers left after MCPS with parents have taken their pick. Finally, first-timers and second-timers without priority will have their numbers randomly assigned into the remaining queue numbers in the same ballot. But, first-timers get additional ballot chances with two tickets instead of one.

For the super suay types who balloted for non-mature twice and got nothing, this is where they will have their third ticket entered for the ballot at the same time, and numbers are again randomly assigned.

MCPS near parents numbers thus vary wildly because they account for a significant group of applicants. Hope this explains the distinction between the priority schemes and balloting

 

[akloaklo]

hi guys, wanna share some insights here about woodlands. currently, both hub & i are staying with my parents here at woodlands. have been staying here for more than 15 years. tbh, i like the feel of woodlands houses. so here are my pov about the upcoming bto woodlands plot:

1. schools
as a newly wed couple, woodlands plot might not interest u as theres no FAMOUS school, but my current neighbor got 282 for her PSLE which AMAZE me considering the fact mentioned above. i guess it got to do w the kid, not really with the school. for secondary schools, theres ALOT of malaysian kids( likely same for primary as well)

2. amenties
this part i dare say among the rest of the available bto area in MAY, this has the best facilities & amenities. why do i say that? well, u can go JB pump petrol easily, or weekend shopping or even cafe hopping(cheaper than SG) its pretty near the public pool too ... if u are a person who doesnt cook, fear not, eating out is wayyyyyy cheaper and woodlands is 1 mrt station away where u can catch a late movie n not worry about cab fare. if u are a person who enjoy cooking, woodlands plot is perfect for u. fruits are dirt cheap at marsilling, if u atas a bit u can go woodlands, if u wanna test ur haggle skills, pls proceed to admiralty. 1 large basket for veg that could feed a family of 4 for 3 days cost u $1 ... hahahhaha

3. traffic/transport
if u drive, u only have 1 option and thats going to the main expressway via wdlds ave 3 which i m happy to say, traffic is smooth in peak hours compared to ave 2 & 12 .... unlikely u ll walk to mrt unless u are not a lazy person like me ... 10 min walk i also take bus ... hahahha but its pretty nice to sit buses as they are pretty clean i must say. marsilling station is approx 10 blocks away ... if u r in heels .... good luck ... hahhaha take bus la ... v fast one peak hour ... mrt to town ... ermmm peak hour ... good luck ... confirm chop stand ALL THE WAY ... but its proven standing can lose weight ya ... hahaha

4. neighbors
cant really guarantee anything ... but u would have a good balance mix of both family n newly wed couples in ur estate ... unlike other non mature estates like punggol or the new yishun ones where mostly 80-90% newly wed couples ... & u dont really know ur neighbor or they have their doors shut almost all the time ... people staying in woodlands are pretty nice ... generally i feel more human staying in woodlands than staying at punggol ... no offence to people staying there but i really dont like punggol ... windy but super dusty, coffee shop is really expensive, cant find anything thats cheap, LRT is sardine packed, traffic to expressway in peak hours is MADNESS ...

5. rental yield.
highly possible ... yield might not b as high as those area near city fringe, but stable yield is expected as many malaysians prefer less travel distance from custom after visiting their family over the weekends.

6. price.
easy on the pocket ... they are not as pricey as mature estates, probably u ll still have surplus in cpf to help u gain that 2% interest ... unless single income sorry cant help u ... pls remember k, you are not buying a home, you are leasing it from HDB, our dear minister say liao ... after 99 years finito ... ur house is worth a big fat ZERO $0/- ... of course if u have money to spare, pls go ahead with mature estates.

to find out more about plans our gar-men has for woodlands do google:
future development woodlands singapore, click one first link by URA


i m still trying to convince my hub to go for woodlands for may bto as my parents are ald staying near there ... he prefers a bto near green / yellow line ... his reason is LAME; green means go(go ahead & buy), yellow means prepare to stop(put in more consideration then buy), red means stop(dont think, dont purchase, danger zone)

btw this is just my pov la ... u can dont believe eh ... hahahha but one thing u must believe: pls do not spend too much $ on renovation, i know u peeps are excited to reno ur 1st home, but i chop stamp for sure u ll sell. and as a potential buyer, if i want to nego price, no matter how much $ u paid for reno or no matter how much i like ur reno, i would say i DONT LIKE. why ? cos i wanna nego. simple as that. some may say, dont like dont buy lor ... sure ... no problem ... but experienced home buyers will say the same thing ... couples that enters house n say wa v nice hor ... cham liao ... seller will not only tell u non nego or even very little room for nego, u probably pay for the next house seller is gonna buy ... u like ah ??

I guess the location we want are influenced by where we stay, either get near the wife's parents or the husband's parents.

Ask me get woodland I die also won't get because I stay sengkang and I only want BTO at purple line.