Proposal Ring - Part 3

[IcYFl4mEz]

and also, anyone got comment on below GIA report? no scope to see, however did compare with a VS1 / ideal cut(8 heart/arrow) diamond side by side, the below seems to blink and shine more.

ROUND BRILLIANT
Measurements
5.75 - 5.79 x 3.58 mm
Carat Weight
0.73 carat
Color Grade
F
Clarity Grade
SI2
Cut Grade
Excellent
PROPORTIONS
Depth
62.0 %
Table
59 %
Crown Angle
35.0°
Crown Height
14.0%
Pavilion Angle
41.4°
Pavilion Depth
44.0%
Star Length
50%
Lower Half
80%
Girdle
Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%
Culet
None

FINISH
Polish
Excellent
Symmetry
Excellent
FLUORESCENCE
Fluorescence
None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS
Clarity Characteristics
Feather, Twinning Wisp

 

[theblueark]

so is ideal cut = triple excellent cut?
i went to SK, they are saying clarity doesnt really affect light leakage/blink blink.
its the cut. so as long as eye clean, clarity SI1 also can? if compared to another ring with VS1, blink n brilliant same same in all diff angle.

Triple excellent is a GIA term. They started looking at how to grade diamonds and came up with how well polished, how symmetrical, and measurement of some areas for “cut”. If these 3 excellent = triple excellent.

Ideal cut is an AGS term. They looked at how GIA measure cut and they feel not good enough. They added more measurements and if they are within certain limits, they call these ideal cut.

Super ideal cut is a JP term. They looked at the limits AGS set and they feel not good enough. So they tightened the limits by adding more ways to gauge how good the light return will be. Then they check through the aset scope to double confirm.

None of these terms are trademarked, so any jeweler can anyhow say. Although GIA and AGS rated diamonds have their respective certification that comes with the diamond. More importantly, what one needs to do is educate themselves and ask the jeweler what they mean when they claim the diamond is this or that. So that can know when the jeweler is bs-ing.

Anyway that’s if want to buy quality and value for money. For ppl who just impress others then go for big names and big rock will impress 99% of everyday ppl.

 

[havcove]

Just got my wedding bands from Love n co. Can I check how long does it take to custom a new ring? They say it’s 3 months (longer coz rose gold), but want to know if actually it will be faster or not. My wedding day is 9 Sep so 3 months from now kinda rush.

Another thing, is engraving foc? And how long is engraving?

you need to ask love and co if they provide engraving for you free and how long.. after all, you are the customer buying from them.

for engraving, if you are in a rush, there are instant engraving service by local shop.. checkout chinatown.. or ask around i only know of one at people park.. dunno the shop name but it is at lvl 2, behind the huge dept store..

 

[havcove]

Hi Guys!

I just received my diamond scope images.
Although I know it's super ideal from JP, but I still hope to get some comments from u guys.
So I can put 100000 hearts to purchase it.

HAHA

0.51 F VS1
With Clarity Char: Crystal, Cloud and Pinpoint.

your scope looks exactly like mine.... super ideal.. nothing to complain about.... hahaa for jp, their super ideal looks almost the same anyway...

 

[KingKenny]

and also, anyone got comment on below GIA report? no scope to see, however did compare with a VS1 / ideal cut(8 heart/arrow) diamond side by side, the below seems to blink and shine more.

ROUND BRILLIANT
Measurements
5.75 - 5.79 x 3.58 mm
Carat Weight
0.73 carat
Color Grade
F
Clarity Grade
SI2
Cut Grade
Excellent
PROPORTIONS
Depth
62.0 %
Table
59 %
Crown Angle
35.0°
Crown Height
14.0%
Pavilion Angle
41.4°
Pavilion Depth
44.0%
Star Length
50%
Lower Half
80%
Girdle
Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%
Culet
None

FINISH
Polish
Excellent
Symmetry
Excellent
FLUORESCENCE
Fluorescence
None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS
Clarity Characteristics
Feather, Twinning Wisp

so is ideal cut = triple excellent cut?
i went to SK, they are saying clarity doesnt really affect light leakage/blink blink.
its the cut. so as long as eye clean, clarity SI1 also can? if compared to another ring with VS1, blink n brilliant same same in all diff angle.

This is not an Ideal Cut.. The proportions is not good. HCA score is 5.3 which is very far from the Ideal range. Clarity won't affect the shine of the diamond unless it is very bad. The inclusion for this piece is SI2 with feather and twinning wisp. Those 2 inclusions are scary for a SI2 as they affect the durability. I would stay far away from this one.

Twinning wisp are those long line inclusions all over the diamond. Because this diamond is under 1ct and won't have the clarity plot diagram so you can't see. This is what they are

Best is use the scopes to check the diamond. Though this one the proportion is already bad so no point also. Don't forget, you're seeing the diamond in under jewelry spotlights so everything will look swee swee. If they allow, you bring the diamond outdoors to see. Confirm will look very different.

 

[IcYFl4mEz]

This is not an Ideal Cut.. The proportions is not good. HCA score is 5.3 which is very far from the Ideal range. Clarity won't affect the shine of the diamond unless it is very bad. The inclusion for this piece is SI2 with feather and twinning wisp. Those 2 inclusions are scary for a SI2 as they affect the durability. I would stay far away from this one.

Twinning wisp are those long line inclusions all over the diamond. Because this diamond is under 1ct and won't have the clarity plot diagram so you can't see. This is what they are

Best is use the scopes to check the diamond. Though this one the proportion is already bad so no point also. Don't forget, you're seeing the diamond in under jewelry spotlights so everything will look swee swee. If they allow, you bring the diamond outdoors to see. Confirm will look very different.

thanks for the advice, i did compared it under table, cover the lighting etc. seems to shine also, just wonder why...
i do have one bro pm me saying its a good grade diamond

 

[KinoChoco]

thanks for the advice, i did compared it under table, cover the lighting etc. seems to shine also, just wonder why...
i do have one bro pm me saying its a good grade diamond

Every diamond shines, just that u don't have a good reference beside it to know exactly whats the differences between a good shine and a bad shine haha. And i'm sure most of the norm shop would not place a bad and a good one side by side to you while trying to close a deal with you.

 

[KingKenny]

thanks for the advice, i did compared it under table, cover the lighting etc. seems to shine also, just wonder why...
i do have one bro pm me saying its a good grade diamond

This is the HCA score result. It will have the big light leakages in the middle area. So logically speaking, the proportions show that it wont have good shine.

If you are confident and like this one, you can go for it. As long as you're happy can already. I'm not the one wearing it

Another factor is the durability. You see if the shop can guarantee you the diamond will not chip from the inclusions.

 

[VodkaPear]

One more qns.

I browse this forum and realized that most of the diamonds Girdle are "Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%".

But when I c the GIA cert of the diamond I purchased, it is Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%".

How come ar? Both are 4.0%.

Slightly Thick is a concern mah?

 

[smileedee12]

One more qns.

I browse this forum and realized that most of the diamonds Girdle are "Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%".

But when I c the GIA cert of the diamond I purchased, it is Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%".

How come ar? Both are 4.0%.

Slightly Thick is a concern mah?

HCA score is just used to weed out the bad diamonds. A diamond with a HCA score of 2.0 and lesser would have a higher chance of being a good light performer. If I'm not wrong, HCA score only takes into account 17 out of 57 facets that a diamond has thus it should not be used on its own.

For JP, their super ideal cut diamonds have scores of 1.4 and below but again, lower score does not mean better light performing diamond. You still have to check through the scopes.

I believe for girdle, slightly thick is the max you should accept. But I believe it's not a cause for concern. For girdle just make sure it's not dugged or painted.

 

[Despacito]

Did my research on the super ideals, hearts and arrows rounds, and other diamond shapes. First time i come across a cushion and octagon cut with hearts and arrows. It looks very special.. my SO hinted for something unique. I find the round shape to be very common, even if you get the best quality from JP. my problem is i'm not sure which will suit her finger best. Diamond size i'm looking in the .8ct range.

I read online that for small and long fingers, square shapes will compliment better. my gf finger is size 9, which is arnd average size i think. finger length is arnd 7cm. Any opinion from bros here?
should i make the diamond on the side smaller to make the main diamond bigger? I'm leaning more to the brellia or octagon.

This is the superimpose pics that JP did for me on my SO hand

cushion brellia

octagon

solasfera

 

[VodkaPear]

HCA score is just used to weed out the bad diamonds. A diamond with a HCA score of 2.0 and lesser would have a higher chance of being a good light performer. If I'm not wrong, HCA score only takes into account 17 out of 57 facets that a diamond has thus it should not be used on its own.

For JP, their super ideal cut diamonds have scores of 1.4 and below but again, lower score does not mean better light performing diamond. You still have to check through the scopes.

I believe for girdle, slightly thick is the max you should accept. But I believe it's not a cause for concern. For girdle just make sure it's not dugged or painted.

Hmm. Ok thanks.

Yesterday I have posted the scope images in this thread.

Now, not too sure shld I take into consideration whether to choose another diamond or proceed with this due to the slightly thick girdle.
Sigh..

 

[mero_cwj]

One more qns.

I browse this forum and realized that most of the diamonds Girdle are "Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%".

But when I c the GIA cert of the diamond I purchased, it is Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%".

How come ar? Both are 4.0%.

Slightly Thick is a concern mah?

Slightly thick is ok

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[mero_cwj]

Did my research on the super ideals, hearts and arrows rounds, and other diamond shapes. First time i come across a cushion and octagon cut with hearts and arrows. It looks very special.. my SO hinted for something unique. I find the round shape to be very common, even if you get the best quality from JP. my problem is i'm not sure which will suit her finger best. Diamond size i'm looking in the .8ct range.

I read online that for small and long fingers, square shapes will compliment better. my gf finger is size 9, which is arnd average size i think. finger length is arnd 7cm. Any opinion from bros here?
should i make the diamond on the side smaller to make the main diamond bigger? I'm leaning more to the brellia or octagon.

This is the superimpose pics that JP did for me on my SO hand

cushion brellia

octagon

solasfera

You can ask them to show you the stones in a temporary ring "holder", IMO the octagon for smaller carat weights looks pretty much just like a round when you add in the 4 ring prongs. Personally I think the octagon would look best at maybe upwards of 1.4/1.5 carats...

Sounds like a brellia would be more suitable for you. Or if you're not dead set on a hearts and arrows diamond, check out other square cuts like the princess, emerald, asscher, cushion, radiant cuts etc

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[smileedee12]

Hmm. Ok thanks.

Yesterday I have posted the scope images in this thread.

Now, not too sure shld I take into consideration whether to choose another diamond or proceed with this due to the slightly thick girdle.
Sigh..

Mine also slightly thick. As I said, that's the max to accept. So is ok! Super ideal quality from JP no need worry!! Only worry about how big of a carat u want with ur budget haha

 

[Kkeell]

Can I just ask how Long do you guys wait for an ideal diamond for JP. Since I heard that they are not commission based And there are so many sales person and so many ppl waiting for a suitable diamond how do you know if the diamond that is ideal for u wun fall onto others?
Does anybody know how it works?

 

[IcYFl4mEz]

Can I just ask how Long do you guys wait for an ideal diamond for JP. Since I heard that they are not commission based And there are so many sales person and so many ppl waiting for a suitable diamond how do you know if the diamond that is ideal for u wun fall onto others?
Does anybody know how it works?

try telling them u will consider and since not comm. based, you will ask his/her colleagues next time for more opinion when u decided to purchase.

 

[ThiamWan]

Did my research on the super ideals, hearts and arrows rounds, and other diamond shapes. First time i come across a cushion and octagon cut with hearts and arrows. It looks very special.. my SO hinted for something unique. I find the round shape to be very common, even if you get the best quality from JP. my problem is i'm not sure which will suit her finger best. Diamond size i'm looking in the .8ct range.

I read online that for small and long fingers, square shapes will compliment better. my gf finger is size 9, which is arnd average size i think. finger length is arnd 7cm. Any opinion from bros here?
should i make the diamond on the side smaller to make the main diamond bigger? I'm leaning more to the brellia or octagon.

This is the superimpose pics that JP did for me on my SO hand

cushion brellia

octagon

solasfera

The Octagon will be more unique. I think it’s safer too because the shape is inbetween a round and square. Another thing to note is all of them have different facets.
Brellia - 57 facets
Octagon - 88 facets
Solasfera - 91 facets

The side diamonds can be smaller I feel. Or you can do those thick to thin bands that will showcase the main diamond more

 

[Despacito]

You can ask them to show you the stones in a temporary ring "holder", IMO the octagon for smaller carat weights looks pretty much just like a round when you add in the 4 ring prongs. Personally I think the octagon would look best at maybe upwards of 1.4/1.5 carats...

Sounds like a brellia would be more suitable for you. Or if you're not dead set on a hearts and arrows diamond, check out other square cuts like the princess, emerald, asscher, cushion, radiant cuts etc

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They got show me on the holder. i didnt go shopping with my SO.. so im not sure whats the best for her hand. 1.5ct too xiong la.

i saw the non hearts and arrows too. didnt like it. The brilliance and shine was much more inferior than the hearts and arrows ones.

 

[Despacito]

The Octagon will be more unique. I think it’s safer too because the shape is inbetween a round and square. Another thing to note is all of them have different facets.
Brellia - 57 facets
Octagon - 88 facets
Solasfera - 91 facets

The side diamonds can be smaller I feel. Or you can do those thick to thin bands that will showcase the main diamond more

Hmm.. i'll ask them to make the diamonds smaller. the thick to thin band is it the slanted ones?