SIMBA Fibre Broadband

[Confession.pt3]

Just switched from Starhub 1Gbps to Simba yesterday. Use back the existing nokia from SH. Just normal surfing and watching movies online. Found better than SH at cheaper price. No complaint.

 

[xiaofan]

nice, didn't know you can sign up 4 lines with simba

This is NOT 4 lines of SIMBA lah.

SIMBA is using GPON ONT, download up to 2.5Gbps (2.488Gbps) and upload up to 1.25Gbps (1.25Gbps). So even if you can aggregate 4 lines, the upload will not exceed 5Gbps.

This looks like using a 10Gbps plan, then using 4*2.5Gbps LAN ports to connect to a client using LAN Link Aggregation.

 

[Scuderia]

email them. they added it to my account quite fast. u needed to use the simba line as the no when registering ...

Need to sign up for Simba broadband via their invitation email then will have the credit right? If never receive the invitation email just sign up online will not have the credit if I am not wrong.

 

[xdivider]

Need to sign up for Simba broadband via their invitation email then will have the credit right? If never receive the invitation email just sign up online will not have the credit if I am not wrong.

Yup. Indicated interest a while back....

 

[Apparatus]

This is NOT 4 lines of SIMBA lah.

SIMBA is using GPON ONT, download up to 2.5Gbps (2.488Gbps) and upload up to 1.25Gbps (1.25Gbps). So even if you can aggregate 4 lines, the upload will not exceed 5Gbps.

This looks like using a 10Gbps plan, then using 4*2.5Gbps LAN ports to connect to a client using LAN Link Aggregation.

So for the 10Gbps plan what ONT with 4x2.5Gbps LAN ports and what router with 4x2.5Gbps +1x10Gbps output LAN ports is SIMBA providing?

 

[xiaofan]

So for the 10Gbps plan what ONT with 4x2.5Gbps LAN ports and what router with 4x2.5Gbps +1x10Gbps output LAN ports is SIMBA providing?

Sit down, relax and read the answer again and see if your reply makes any sense or not.

Hint: SIMBA does not provide 10G service. So the SpeedTest can not be from SIMBA users.

One more hint: you can always ask the poster of the result which ISP plan and which router and client he is using to achieve the results.

 

[Apparatus]

Sit down, relax and read the answer again and see if your reply makes any sense or not.

Hint: SIMBA does not provide 10G service. So the SpeedTest can not be from SIMBA users.

Unless he subscribed to multiple ISPs

FYI, recently someone posted in HWZ that SIMBA has a 10Gbps broadband which I saw.....but I can't find on their website

 

[xiaofan]

Unless he subscribed to multiple ISPs
FYI, recently someone posted SIMBA has a 10Gbps broadband......but I can't find on their website

One more tip: you can always ask the poster of the result which ISP plan and which router and client he is using to achieve the results.

Not necessarily he is using two ISPs.

 

[Apparatus]

One more tip: you can always ask the poster of the result which ISP plan and which router and client he is using to achieve the results.

I asked a few pages back but he no reply. Maybe he's doing some kind of trial testing

 

[Mach3.2]

why people so interested in bonded connections...

 

[Apparatus]

why people so interested in bonded connections...

It's another option mah.

The speed result is also comparable to a 10Gbps connection

 

[xiaofan]

why people so interested in bonded connections...

It could be the the user has no devices with 10G NIC, but only a client with quad 2.5G NICs. For example, those Intel N100 mini PCs with Quad 2.5G NICs are pretty affordable now. In that case, he can still use this client to show a good SpeedTest result for the newly subscribed 10G service.

 

[Apparatus]

It could be the the user has no devices with 10G NIC, but only a client with quad 2.5G NICs. For example, those Intel N100 mini PCs with Quad 2.5G NICs are pretty affordable now. In that case, he can still use this client to show a good SpeedTest result for the newly subscribed 10G service.

If you are talking of something below

https://liliputing.com/this-small-f...intel-n100-processor-and-dual-display-suppor/

then you'll need to connect to a 4x2.5G with a 10G output port switch

 

[GlassDoor]

cannot resist.. so chime in on bonded connections...

imho... most have wrong impression of bonded connections..
so u want to bond 2 X 1Gbps connections... why? so that you get 2Gbps connection?
well.. its not so simple. tcp connections cannot stripe across multiple physical connections (unless you so balance-rr, but thats a bucket of worms by itself) so max is still 1Gbps. Multiple connections should be able to right? yes and no.
the question is how the host distribute the transmit load? by L2 or L2+3 or L3+4?
What about the receiving? ie the switch sending to the host? How is switch distributing the traffic across the bond?
now back to balance round robin... it stripes the traffic evenly across multiple connections right? Yes. But then you get massive packets received out of order... so end up... a lots of send and resends....so instead of increase in throughput... u get decreaces.. and lags ..... big big headaches
bonding has real negative side effects!

so back to why bonded connections? is your host maxing the 1 physical connections? or is you application demanding bandwidth that 1 physical connection can provide?

back in my days.. bonding was a necessary evil for storage solutions... thinks NAS, iSCSI ... etc...
application wise... video editing, storage, transmission ...

so noadays it seems that bonding is for maxing out speedtest??!!

 

[GlassDoor]

If you are talking of something below

https://liliputing.com/this-small-f...intel-n100-processor-and-dual-display-suppor/

then you'll need to connect to a 4x2.5G with a 10G output port switch

my question....
what applications are you running that will require 10G throughput
the switch can stripe all connections on the bond? the switch has to decided how to send you packets across multiple physical links.. it is sending.. how to manage that?
most "managed" switch will have hash policy of sending on the bond.. so each tcp connection will only still use ONE physical connection. and most switches will default to conservative hashing policy to avoid out-of-order packets and very uneven load distribution across the bond for multiple connections.

most people has really simplistic view of what bonding can do

 

[Apparatus]

my question....
what applications are you running that will require 10G throughput
the switch can stripe all connections on the bond? the switch has to decided how to send you packets across multiple physical links.. it is sending.. how to manage that?
most "managed" switch will have hash policy of sending on the bond.. so each tcp connection will only still use ONE physical connection. and most switches will default to conservative hashing policy to avoid out-of-order packets.

most people has really simplistic view of what bonding can do

Switch has to support Link Aggregation

 

[GlassDoor]

Switch has to support Link Aggregation

Link aggregation only creates a static trunk....
it does not say how traffic is send across the bond.
Most cheap switch with link aggregation with no option to select hashing policy will only send based on L2, ie src and dst mac address hash... so small networks.. the loading will be very uneven across

any even worst if most of the traffic originates or terminates at the switch port connected to the router. cos that mac address is the same... so simi load balancing??!!... lol

 

[Apparatus]

Link aggregation only creates a static trunk....
it does not say how traffic is send across the bond.
Most cheap switch with link aggregation with no option to select hashing policy will only send based on L2, ie src and dst mac address hash... so small networks.. the loading will be very uneven across

At any rate the speedtest poster said his result was link aggregated. Look at his speedtest picture it's stated there

 

[GlassDoor]

At any rate the speedtest poster said his result was link aggregated. Look at his speedtest picture it's stated there

speedtest can run on multiple tcp steams.. but it is not as simple as you think.
speedtest ah..... speedtest..... what thou doing

 

[Apparatus]

speedtest can run on multiple tcp steams.. but it is not as simple as you think.
speedtest ah..... speedtest..... what thou doing

Any way the result speaks for itself