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allanzzz said:
Any tplink mesh with 2.5G ports?
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Quite a few TP-Link Deco has 2.5G port.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/deco/

Deco BE65 -- 4 x 2.5G ports
Deco X50 Pro - 2 x 2.5G ports
Deco XE75 Pro, Deco X80, Deco X90, Deco X95 -- single 2.5G port

But if you want to consider China version, then you can check out the previous post. For example, you can use TL-7DR6560 BE6500 as the main router and TL-7DR3630 BE3600 as the mesh node.

TP-Link China version of WiFi 7 routers (no 6GHz band, no 320MHz channel width)
https://www.tp-link.com.cn/product_cat_wifi7.html
TP-Link TL-7DR3630 BE3600, RMB 249 (single 2.5G port). not recommended as main router, okay as AP or mesh node
TP-Link TL-7DR5130 BE5100, RMB 279 (single 2.5G port), not recommended as main router, okay as AP or mesh node
TP-Link TL-7DR6560 BE6500 (quad 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5G plans), RMB 559
TP-Link TL-7DR7280 BE7200 (quad 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5G plans), RMB 1699
 
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bueysongLaiQikuamai said:
any good router around 100 bucks then can support up to 2.5G?
Shopee link anyone? ty
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Difficult to find local versions with warranty.

You may have to use Taobao and get the following instead. For example, the following may be a good candidate. No idea about the pricing in Lazada/Shopee.

ZTE BE7200 Pro+ (中兴问天BE7200Pro+, dual 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5Gbps plans) RMB 599
Xiaomi 6500 Pro (quad 2.5G ports, good for 2.5G plans): RMB699
Xiaomi 7000 (quad 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5G plans): RMB799

List of China version WiFi 7 routers here.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/wifi-7-routers.6905228/page-12#post-151478961

xiaofan said:
I'd better update my post about China WiFI 7 router.

Chinese WiFi 7 router options (no 6GHz band, no 320MHz channel bandwidth, got MLO, 4096QAM, MRU, etc)

Huawei
Huawei BE3 Pro (1G port version, 512MB RAM): RMB399, not recommended as no 2.5G port
Huawei BE3 Pro (2.5G port version, 512MB RAM): RMB499

Xiaomi
Xiaomi BE3600 (2.5G port): RMB 299 (just announced) -- not recommended as main router since it has only 256MBRAM, okay as an AP
Xiaomi 6500 Pro (quad 2.5G ports, good for 2.5G plans): RMB699
Xiaomi 7000 (quad 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5G plans): RMB799
Xiaomi 10000 triband (dual 10G ports, maybe good for 10G plans): RMB1499

TP-Link:
https://www.tp-link.com.cn/product_cat_wifi7.html
TP-Link TL-7DR3610 BE3600, RMB 229, not recommended as no 2.5G port
TP-Link TL-7DR3630 BE3600, RMB 249 (single 2.5G port). not recommended as main router, okay as AP
TP-Link TL-7DR5130 BE5100, RMB 279 (single 2.5G port), not recommended as main router, okay as AP
TP-Link TL-7DR6560 BE6500 (quad 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5G plans), RMB 559
TP-Link TL-7DR7280 BE7200 (quad 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5G plans), RMB 1699
TP-Link TL-7TR13090 BE13000 triband (dual 10G ports, maybe good for 10G plans), RMB 2199

ZTE
https://www.ztedevices.com/cn/product/中兴问天be7200pro路由器/
ZTE BE7200 Pro+ (中兴问天BE7200Pro+, dual 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5Gbps plans) RMB 599

H3C
https://www.h3c.com/cn/Products_And...lProducts/Star_Products/Home_Network/BE18000/
H3C BE18000 triband (one 10G port and three 1Gbps port) -- RMB 1799
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4 x 2.5gbps link aggregation
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Hi, reading through this thread and the comparison thread (with whizzcom 2.5), there's mention that VPN server won't work and there's issues for work related stuff.
The VPN issue is only if we want to host VPN server from home right?
Connecting to office VPN no issues right?
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RedAsh said:
Hi, reading through this thread and the comparison thread (with whizzcom 2.5), there's mention that VPN server won't work and there's issues for work related stuff.
The VPN issue is only if we want to host VPN server from home right?
Connecting to office VPN no issues right?
Thanks in advance
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Yup connecting to office VPN would not have issues
 
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RedAsh said:
Hi, reading through this thread and the comparison thread (with whizzcom 2.5), there's mention that VPN server won't work and there's issues for work related stuff.
The VPN issue is only if we want to host VPN server from home right?
Connecting to office VPN no issues right?
Thanks in advance
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You need to understand the basic internet setup, which is a point-to-point transmission. By design, each device has its own IP address, and is identified by the unique IP address. So 1.2.3.4 can talk to 1.2.3.5 because both are unique. Computers largely still rely on IP addresses as unique identifiers for endpoints.

With CGNAT, the ISP is the endpoint. To oversimplify, I'll give an example. So let's say the ISP is 1.2.3.6 in this case. Behind your ISP there are 1000 users, each one with 20 devices. When 1.2.3.4 tries to talk to the 12th device belonging to user 995 (that's your computer) behind 1.2.3.6, how does it know how to get to you? This is how CGNAT will break point-to-point connections, because it is impossible to identify based on IP address.
When you add that the ISP could be seeing, eh, I have 200 similar connections and they are causing me to lag. So to network manage, I may drop 150 of these. It's almost aribitary to you - you could easily be one of the 150 dropped.

Modern computing may use device IDs or some other identifier (phones do this), but for computers it's generally much harder.

It may or may not work for you. I personally wouldn't risk it.
 
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RedAsh said:
Hi, reading through this thread and the comparison thread (with whizzcom 2.5), there's mention that VPN server won't work and there's issues for work related stuff.
The VPN issue is only if we want to host VPN server from home right?
Connecting to office VPN no issues right?
Thanks in advance
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Most likely there will be no issues, after all, MR and VQ also use CGNAT and many of the MR/VQ users probably do not have static IPv4 add-on (they also do not have IPv6). So MR/VQ users would have got affected before SIMBA users.

But then again, it still depends on the office VPN server implementation. If you really want to go with SIMBA, consult your IT department. Take note MR/VQ have static IPv4 add-on. For VQ users, the reports in this forum seem to indicate static IPv4 add-on make the network more stable.

I actually do not understand why SIMBA has not provided static IPv4 add-on or IPv6 support yet. Maybe they will do that soon.

As mentioned in the following thread, I do not recommend power users to go with either SIMBA (CGNAT with not IPv4 add-on) or Whizcomms (ONR, aggregated 2.5Gbps). But if you are a simple user yet want the lowest cost Fibre broadband, Whizcomms 2.5Gbps plan may actually be better choice.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...nd-whizcomm-boradband.6984714/#post-150697339
 
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firesong said:
You need to understand the basic internet setup, which is a point-to-point transmission. By design, each device has its own IP address, and is identified by the unique IP address. So 1.2.3.4 can talk to 1.2.3.5 because both are unique. Computers largely still rely on IP addresses as unique identifiers for endpoints.
With CGNAT, the ISP is the endpoint. To oversimplify, I'll give an example. So let's say the ISP is 1.2.3.6 in this case. Behind your ISP there are 1000 users, each one with 20 devices. When 1.2.3.4 tries to talk to the 12th device belonging to user 995 (that's your computer) behind 1.2.3.6, how does it know how to get to you? This is how CGNAT will break point-to-point connections, because it is impossible to identify based on IP address.
When you add that the ISP could be seeing, eh, I have 200 similar connections and they are causing me to lag. So to network manage, I may drop 150 of these. It's almost aribitary to you - you could easily be one of the 150 dropped.
Modern computing may use device IDs or some other identifier (phones do this), but for computers it's generally much harder.
It may or may not work for you. I personally wouldn't risk it.
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