SIMBA Fibre Broadband

[cyberet]

What happen if I am invited for the 10Gbps pilot trial but I still use back the 1Gbps router? Will Simba scold me that I cant do testing for them cos I not using 10Gbps router?

Anyway, $300 for 360 days = $25 for 12 mths, much cheaper than m1 cheapest plan of 500mbps

they will be happy you pay more but use less

 

[lobukong]

Yes these are niche which does not constitutes to 50% of families using them even today, all these can be accomplished with 1gbps bw. So i am not convinced yet.

I asked exactly these questions a few months ago.

Now I understand the point, to realize 10Gbps is meaningless, you need to understand a bit of networking. But many people doesn't know enough to realize that, so it's 99% marketing and 1% truth.
It's a lunch that nobody understands what they are eating. So they can only market it as buffet and super buffet lo.

Which is why Simba was promoting 2.5G plan when 2G plans are marketed as 2x better than 1G but actually not. So now Simba has to quickly shift to 10G plans, as 2.5G is only 1/4 as flashy as 10G plans.
So it's never about use case. It's only about competition and money.

 

[crunsik]

Anyone using simba broadband and able to share their experience?

 

[Nefalrin]

I think the real motive to introduce the 10gbps is to reduce market price.

So that lower income people can afford even faster internet connection.
Imagine they submit low income to IMDA, they can get free internet connection at fast speed.

Imagine 500mbps price can drop to $15 or $20.
The possibilities of win win is great.

 

[Nefalrin]

Cheaper internet plans before election.

Good boh ?

 

[wifi_18Z]

It’s almost the same situation as when they were rolling out the fiber connections. From ADSL to now, huge investments.
End result is that we get much faster speeds at about the same or even lower prices.
Thank your government when it’s due

 

[HiHelloBye]

end of the day, i think people feel satisfied looking at their download/upload speed can reach up to 10Gbps

 

[Moratia]

Anyone using simba broadband and able to share their experience?

I was in the first batch of 2.5. Works for me (as my second ISP) but I'm not a very heavy user. Less angry at my Simba than at my Singtel for sure

 

[alex22]

1. Good point. Competition is good (and the ISP market is not yet in over-competition now, unlike the SIM only mobile market). The exception is probably SIMBA 2.5Gbps plan.

2. Cost reduction and newly cost-effective plans -- I expect 5Gbps plan price to come down as well (or bundled with better router).

WC 2.5Gbps plan -- S$21.80 per month

M1 1Gbps plan -- reduced to S$36.84 per month.

Starhub/M1 -- reduced 2Gbps plan (dual 1Gbps plan) to S$39 per month

Starhub -- comes with 5Gbps plan at S$45 per month (with 10G capable Nokia all-in-one ONR with wireless AX6000 by default, but you can request to have ONT option and then use your own router)

VQ -- comes out reasonably priced 3Gbps/5Gbps plan (effective price is 34.98 per month for no-frills 3Gbps plan, S$46.99 per month for 5Gbps no frills plan).

Singtel -- reduced 2Gbps plan to S$42.90 per month for new users (new home offer is at S$39.9 per month). Recontract users can also get similar pricing (my recontract offer was S$39.95 per month for 2Gbps and S$42.90 for 2.5Gbps, but I am not interested in Singtel 2Gbps/2.5Gbps offer due to the use of ONR).

Singtel -- comes out with 5Gbps plan at S$49 per month for new users (with 10G capable XGS-PON ONR plus basic wireless router which is only capable with 1Gbps)

3. More info about Singapore ISP comparison (just need to read Post #1/2/3)
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/singapore-isp-comparisons.6665380/

Wc pricing caveat = 12mths only.
The others quoted are 24mth
@xiaofan

 

[alex22]

End of the day, if the 10Gbps plan can get me 2.5Gbps now, and it's cheaper than my 1Gbps plan, then might as well try.

Yes buy into the " top up a bit, get a cat" mindset.
Marketing strategy +1 for those who buy based on sticker speeds rather than other reasons not limited to ownership cost being one of them especially when they are imo pretty silly when they say "my 1gbps slow at home on isp X" i change to 10GbE why still so slow knn i get cheated etc lol

 

[alex22]

actually no one is being forced to take up 10gbps plan.those on lower speeds also benefit as prices have come down

Tbh not low enough for my liking of 500m at 18.90 and 1GbE at 26.90. sorry for being low ses and cheapskate luddite who would like to have 500m at 18.90

 

[alex22]

It’s almost the same situation as when they were rolling out the fiber connections. From ADSL to now, huge investments.
End result is that we get much faster speeds at about the same or even lower prices.
Thank your government when it’s due

Yup i agree thank you pap, qjqmybfd, gst is to help the poor

 

[xiaofan]

Wc pricing caveat = 12mths only.
The others quoted are 24mth
@xiaofan

Which is perfectly okay. 12 months, the plans may well be cheaper.

 

[xiaofan]

Tbh not low enough for my liking of 500m at 18.90 and 1GbE at 26.90. sorry for being low ses and cheapskate luddite who would like to have 500m at 18.90

1. There is a base cost from NLT, so S$18.90 per month for 500Mbps plan is not possible.
As for 1Gbps at S$26.90, WC 2.5Gbps plan is already at S$21.80 per month.

2. Down the road (say 2025/2026), I see price will be similar to now but with faster speed.
About S$30, now for 500Mbps (M1) no frills plan, future you will get 2.5Gbps or 3Gbps.
About S$40, now for 1Gbps, future you will get 5Gbps no frills plan
About S$50, now for 5Gbps plan, future you will get 10Gbps no frills plan.
Then WC (S$21.80 for 2.5Gbps) and SIMBA (S$29.9 for 10Gbps) will have lower cost.

3. A bit further down the road, say in 2027/2028, 10Gbps no frill plans may be at around S$40.

 

[Nefalrin]

I think 500mbps plans will be phased out.

1gbps will be the default and cheapest that most people will still use because next tier is 10gbps.

There will be 2.5gbps , 5gbps and 10gbps plans if the telcos play the market game well.

 

[xiaofan]

I think 500mbps plans will be phased out.

1gbps will be the default and cheapest that most people will still use because next tier is 10gbps.

There will be 2.5gbps , 5gbps and 10gbps plans if the telcos play the market game well.

Even 1Gbps will be phased out -- Singtel and Starhub no longer provide 1Gbps plan to new users (except Starhub Homehub+ 1Gbps plan). SIMBA/WC/VQ also do not have 1Gbps plan for new users. So only M1 and MR are providing 1Gbps to new users (not counting Starhub Homehub+ 1Gbps plan which may soon be phased out). .

Once M1 comes out 2.5Gbps/5Gbps/10Gbps plan later (the 2.5Gbps plan may be 3Gbps plan like VQ), M1 may phase 500Mbps first and then phase out 1Gbps plan later.

In the near future (2025 or 2026), there will be three tiers.
1) About S$30 per month, now for 500Mbps (M1) no frills plan, future you will get 2.5Gbps or 3Gbps.
2) About S$40 per month, now for 1Gbps/2Gbps, future you will get 5Gbps no frills plan
3) About S$45 to S$50 per month, now for 5Gbps plan, future you will get 10Gbps no frills plan.
4) Then WC (S$21.80 for 2.5Gbps) and SIMBA (S$29.9 for 10Gbps) will still be there if they survive.
5) Then later in 2027/2028, 10Gbps no frills plan may be at S$40 per month. 25Gbps plan may come out then at higher cost like S$50 to S$60 per month.

 

[Nefalrin]

Even 1Gbps will be phased out -- Singtel and Starhub no longer provide 1Gbps plan to new users (except Starhub Homehub+ 1Gbps plan). SIMBA/WC/VQ also do not have 1Gbps plan for new users. So only M1 and MR are providing 1Gbps to new users (not counting Starhub Homehub+ 1Gbps plan which may soon be phased out). .

Once M1 comes out 2.5Gbps/5Gbps/10Gbps plan later (the 2.5Gbps plan may be 3Gbps plan like VQ), M1 may phase 500Mbps first and then phase out 1Gbps plan later.

In the near future (2025 or 2026), there will be three tiers.
1) About S$30 per month, now for 500Mbps (M1) no frills plan, future you will get 2.5Gbps or 3Gbps.
2) About S$40 per month, now for 1Gbps/2Gbps, future you will get 5Gbps no frills plan
3) About S$45 to S$50 per month, now for 5Gbps plan, future you will get 10Gbps no frills plan.
4) Then WC (S$21.80 for 2.5Gbps) and SIMBA (S$29.9 for 10Gbps) will still be there if they survive.
5) Then later in 2027/2028, 10Gbps no frills plan may be at S$40 per month. 25Gbps plan may come out then at higher cost like S$50 to S$60 per month.

Need to spend money buy new wifi 7 wireless router that got these ports SPF+ and 10G
Even some wireless routers are only 2.5G lan ports

 

[Nefalrin]

Even 1Gbps will be phased out -- Singtel and Starhub no longer provide 1Gbps plan to new users (except Starhub Homehub+ 1Gbps plan). SIMBA/WC/VQ also do not have 1Gbps plan for new users. So only M1 and MR are providing 1Gbps to new users (not counting Starhub Homehub+ 1Gbps plan which may soon be phased out). .

Once M1 comes out 2.5Gbps/5Gbps/10Gbps plan later (the 2.5Gbps plan may be 3Gbps plan like VQ), M1 may phase 500Mbps first and then phase out 1Gbps plan later.

In the near future (2025 or 2026), there will be three tiers.
1) About S$30 per month, now for 500Mbps (M1) no frills plan, future you will get 2.5Gbps or 3Gbps.
2) About S$40 per month, now for 1Gbps/2Gbps, future you will get 5Gbps no frills plan
3) About S$45 to S$50 per month, now for 5Gbps plan, future you will get 10Gbps no frills plan.
4) Then WC (S$21.80 for 2.5Gbps) and SIMBA (S$29.9 for 10Gbps) will still be there if they survive.
5) Then later in 2027/2028, 10Gbps no frills plan may be at S$40 per month. 25Gbps plan may come out then at higher cost like S$50 to S$60 per month.

I think 1gbps plan will always be there. There will be many people that still using wifi 6 wireless routers as it just came out only.

So to phrase out 1gbps is not likely going to happen.

 

[xiaofan]

Need to spend money buy new wifi 7 wireless router that got these ports SPF+ and 10G
Even some wireless routers are only 2.5G lan ports

I was talking about no frills plan (no router or basic1Gbps router at best as of now). ISPs will always offer better wireless routers at higher monthly cost.

In 2025/2026, WiFi 7 routers price will drop significantly.

Just an example from VQ: they offer different router for their 3Gbps/5Gbps/10Gbps plans.
https://signup.viewqwest.com/broadband/?promo_code=VQXDEAL24

 

[xiaofan]

I think 1gbps plan will always be there. There will be many people that still using wifi 6 wireless routers as it just came out only.

So to phrase out 1gbps is not likely going to happen.

As mentioned, only M1 and MR have 1Gbps plan to new users now. So let's wait and see if they will still provide 1Gbps plan in 2026 (no need to wait for 2028).