SIMBA Telecom discussion thread

[SibehHL]

There is always the option to port out to a better service provider, which is the benefit of a no contract plan. But for those who find paying $10 for 100GB data bundle good value for money, perhaps tolerating a little inconvenience here & there is worth the while.

 

[Yakumo]

Anyone know how much upload speed is recommended to OpenVPN to personal home server? If it affects anything at all. I just realized I never research on TPG's upload speed and it's pretty close to non-existent :x

 

[mosmos]

no delivery for senior plan

I used delivery for my mother's senior plan

 

[krazyhippo]

Will you get a invoice for the montly charges ? '

 

[lohsenglte]

Anyone know how much upload speed is recommended to OpenVPN to personal home server? If it affects anything at all. I just realized I never research on TPG's upload speed and it's pretty close to non-existent :x

I am assuming you're saying you want to use your home broadband as the VPN server and all data route from SIMBA to your home broadband ISP before going out to the internet.

Depending on OpenVPN configuration, most connections is capped at 10Mbps or 100Mbps on both uplink and downlink.
This means that your home broadband should be fast enough for the usage, given the fact that 200-500Mbps is the basic plan for most plans now.

I would say the more important issue here is the peering between your isp and SIMBA.
If it's anything except SingTel/Whizcomms, latency should be alright. Higher than standard LTE for sure, but it's still likely to be reasonable.

However, if your broadband provider is SingNet, the latency is going to be ridiculous.
SingTel doesn't want to peer with them through SGIX, so the traffic have to route to other countries before coming back.
Combining both long distance travel means the latency will be very high, in hundreds of ms.

Also, the issue about private IP issued to home broadband, this one if you plan to set up OpenVPN etc probably should have understood.

 

[ekardo]

Juz use delivery, save trouble

how long does this takes?

 

[ekardo]

no delivery for senior plan

ouch..

 

[ekardo]

I used delivery for my mother's senior plan

ok...I will try out..but I wanna know how long does it take for you to receive the card?

 

[mosmos]

how long does this takes?

within a week, including weekends

but not sure now still have free delivery options

 

[ekardo]

within a week, including weekends

but not sure now still have free delivery options

ok, will try..

 

[Ye_Rongtian]

Any feedback on their signal strength?

Shopping malls and mrt stations full bars. At home 2 bars (I stay at 25th storey).

 

[twosix]

Shopping malls and mrt stations full bars. At home 2 bars (I stay at 25th storey).

Wah, million $ house.

 

[Ye_Rongtian]

Wah, million $ house.

Just a normal HDB bto at slumkang.

 

[Yakumo]

I am assuming you're saying you want to use your home broadband as the VPN server and all data route from SIMBA to your home broadband ISP before going out to the internet.

Depending on OpenVPN configuration, most connections is capped at 10Mbps or 100Mbps on both uplink and downlink.
This means that your home broadband should be fast enough for the usage, given the fact that 200-500Mbps is the basic plan for most plans now.

I would say the more important issue here is the peering between your isp and SIMBA.
If it's anything except SingTel/Whizcomms, latency should be alright. Higher than standard LTE for sure, but it's still likely to be reasonable.

However, if your broadband provider is SingNet, the latency is going to be ridiculous.
SingTel doesn't want to peer with them through SGIX, so the traffic have to route to other countries before coming back.
Combining both long distance travel means the latency will be very high, in hundreds of ms.

Also, the issue about private IP issued to home broadband, this one if you plan to set up OpenVPN etc probably should have understood.

I'm running SingTel (rip?) 1Gbps broadband at home. Only routing local data through my Asus RT-AC86U router so I can access my Synology NAS without exposing my NAS directly. Internet data still go via my phone data directly

Currently tunneling to my NAS via TPG is slower as compared to Circle.Life. The download speed on TPG should be sufficient since it's average around 50Mbps and drop to 20Mbps at it lowest from what I observed, but I wonder if the nearly non existence upload speed (<5Mbps) would affect the tunneling?

By private IP do you mean the static/dynamic IP address issue? If yes, I got that solved already. Just troubleshooting on why the overall experience is worst on TPG. If it because of the overall slower speed or it bottleneck at the bare min. upload speed..

 

[lohsenglte]

I'm running SingTel (rip?) 1Gbps broadband at home. Only routing local data through my Asus RT-AC86U router so I can access my Synology NAS without exposing my NAS directly. Internet data still go via my phone data directly

Currently tunneling to my NAS via TPG is slower as compared to Circle.Life. The download speed on TPG should be sufficient since it's average around 50Mbps and drop to 20Mbps at it lowest from what I observed, but I wonder if the nearly non existence upload speed (<5Mbps) would affect the tunneling?

By private IP do you mean the static/dynamic IP address issue? If yes, I got that solved already. Just troubleshooting on why the overall experience is worst on TPG. If it because of the overall slower speed or it bottleneck at the bare min. upload speed..

Peering is one huge issue here, the low uplink is only affecting you if you're uploading to NAS.

The peering causes the latency to be in the hundreds of milliseconds, which means each packet takes almost a second (1000ms = 1 sec) to be transmitted and received.

Compared to other ISPs where most go through SGIX, this means that each packet is typ no more than 50ms ping, probably much lower.

This is when you feel the responsiveness, or lack thereof.

 

[Lampard]

Hi, currently my parent line is under my name under giga but I am trying to port over to Tpg senior plan. How can I do it ?

 

[Yakumo]

Peering is one huge issue here, the low uplink is only affecting you if you're uploading to NAS.

The peering causes the latency to be in the hundreds of milliseconds, which means each packet takes almost a second (1000ms = 1 sec) to be transmitted and received.

Compared to other ISPs where most go through SGIX, this means that each packet is typ no more than 50ms ping, probably much lower.

This is when you feel the responsiveness, or lack thereof.

But I was routing through the same path (I think) when using Circle.Life tho? :x

Is it because of the download speed difference on TPG/CL instead?

 

[lohsenglte]

But I was routing through the same path (I think) when using Circle.Life tho? :x

Is it because of the download speed difference on TPG/CL instead?

M1-SingTel peering is typically less than 100ms, typically 5-60ms (excluding LTE overheads).
Meanwhile SIMBA-SingTel peering (or lack therefore) results in the latency consistently more than 200ms, more like 300-400ms.

Furthermore, you didn't state the difference in speed for the download and suddenly throw in, it's not possible to quantify.

But basically, if any server is hosted primarily over SingNet and the client is on SIMBA/TPG, it's not going to be that good.
Same goes for other smaller ISPs like SingNet to M1/MR/VQ/SI/etc, but at least many of them ain't as bad.

The power of monopoly back then caused this bullying from the older players (SingTel/StarHub) and the messy situation right now.

 

[lohsenglte]

M1-SingTel peering is typically less than 100ms, typically 5-60ms (excluding LTE overheads).
Meanwhile SIMBA-SingTel peering (or lack therefore) results in the latency consistently more than 200ms, more like 300-400ms.

Furthermore, you didn't state the difference in speed for the download and suddenly throw in, it's not possible to quantify.

But basically, if any server is hosted primarily over SingNet and the client is on SIMBA/TPG, it's not going to be that good.
Same goes for other smaller ISPs like SingNet to M1/MR/VQ/SI/etc, but at least many of them ain't as bad.

The power of monopoly back then caused this bullying from the older players (SingTel/StarHub) and the messy situation right now.

Additional commentary by another website about why peering is a huge problem:
https://www.techgoondu.com/2015/03/...h-approach-to-local-peering-in-singapore/?amp

 

[kbwang]

Hi all, is the locations for collection for all plans ? The list mentioned specific plan for specific location.