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Hmm then if I bridge port 5, can I connect their provided AP (the arcadyan nonsense) to another unbridged port and still get internet access since the ONR itself is also assigned another IPV4 address? Theoretically it sounds like it should work

This was exactly my plan and I did not plan to bridge another LAN port at all, since this was the experiences from those early users who were able to bridge the Singtel ONR with older FW versions (same behaviour as the GPON ONR bridging case from Singtel 2Gbps and WC 2.5Gbps users).

But no idea why it is not working now. That is why I took the risk and bridged LAN 2.

You can try it to see if it works for you or not.

Hmm.. my case I bridge port 5 , only port 5 working , other ports no Internet at all.. new singtel tv box no need to use seperate VLAN, can even use WiFi according to technician.

Interestingly today I tried to bridge Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR Port 5 only and it works fine, as you mentioned, only port 5 working, other LAN ports got no internet at all (even though Singtel ONR still got a vliad IPv4 address).

BTW, I have cancelled my Singtel TV service as it is really not used much in the past three years.

Great to hear that , it is game changer for Singtel if the bridge mode remain working well. Managed to maintain 7 to 8Gbps consistently throughout these few weeks.

The rest of ports is mainly for TV I believe. I plug in the Singtel TV it work fine concurrently with Boardband.

My own experiences with ZTE F8648P ONR -- with the 10Gbe LAN5 port bridged.

1) The router connected to the bridged ONR 10G LAN ports --> internet is working, native IPv6 is working.

2) The unbridged ONR ports (quad 1Gbe ports, LAN1/2/3/4) no longer have Internet access. This is different from last time. This may be specific to Singtel 5Gbps/10Gbps plan users using ZTE F8648P XGS-PON ONR.

3) I can still bridge one more 1G port and that does work. Tested with LAN 2 and Asus RT-AX86U and it was working fine. But no native IPv6 --> I can only configure Singtel 6rd to get IPv6.
 

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This was exactly my plan and I did not plan to bridge another LAN port at all, since this was the experiences from those early users who were able to bridge the Singtel ONR with older FW versions (same behaviour as the GPON ONR bridging case from Singtel 2Gbps and WC 2.5Gbps users).

But no idea why it is not working now. That is why I took the risk and bridged LAN 2.

You can try it to see if it works for you or not.
So it seems you managed to bridge 2 ports with internet access? The caveat seems to be that the unbridged ports no longer provide internet access via the ONR, right?

I also just noticed that signing up 5gbps plan, they still stick their bundled AP to the 1gbps LAN port 1, effectively capping our wifi speeds at 1gbps... zzz.

Will try bridging port 5 with a wifi7 router when I eventually get one....
 

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So it seems you managed to bridge 2 ports with internet access? The caveat seems to be that the unbridged ports no longer provide internet access via the ONR, right?

I also just noticed that signing up 5gbps plan, they still stick their bundled AP to the 1gbps LAN port 1, effectively capping our wifi speeds at 1gbps... zzz.

Will try bridging port 5 with a wifi7 router when I eventually get one....

1. Yes to both of your questions. YMMV since there are users who still can not bridge the ONR.

2. For those who have not signed up with Singtel, the suggestion is to avoid Singtel Fibre Internet plans because of ONR.

Edit --> I see that your family member had signed-up already. Just try to bridge one port to see how it goes.

3. There are different options of Singtel 5Gbps plan.

Normal website offer
https://www.singtel.com/personal/products-services/broadband/fibre-broadband-plans

1) 5Gbps (WiFi 6) + Entertainment Bundle --> S$46.76 per month, with Singtel AX5400 router
2) 5Gbps Mesh (WiFi 6) + Entertainment Bundle --> S$54.40 per month (totally not worth it), with Singtel AX5400 router plus Singtel AX5400 Mesh Extender
3) 5Gbps (WiFi 7) + Entertainment Bundle --> S$63.56 per month, with TP-Link HB810 WiFi 7 router

New user offer special link is better than the normal website offer if you want to have HB810 WiFI 7 router.
https://www.singtel.com/personal/products-services/broadband/eform/newbb

5Gbps Enhanced (WiFi 7) at $55.90/mth (U.P $95.90/mth)
[ONLINE EXCLUSIVE] Comes with FREE Mayer 5L Digital Air Fryer (worth $349)
Comes with XGS-PON Optical Network Router + 1 unit of TP-Link BE22000 WiFi 7 Router


5Gbps Mesh (WiFi 6) at $55.09/mth (U.P $106.09/mth) --> totally not worth it
[ONLINE EXCLUSIVE] Comes with FREE Mayer 5L Digital Air Fryer (worth $349)
Comes with 2 units of Singtel WiFi 6 device

5Gbps Mesh (WiFi 6) at $60.18/mth (U.P $116.28/mth) --> totally not worth it
[ONLINE EXCLUSIVE] Comes with FREE Mayer 5L Digital Air Fryer (worth $349)
Comes with 3 units of Singtel WiFi 6 device

4. FYI, I am paying S$49.90 for the 5Gbps (WiFi 6) + Entertainment Bundle, with the lousy Singtel AX5400 router. At my time (August 2024), there were no better offers for recontract customers. The Singtel installer did not even bother to open the Singtel AX5400 router (Arcadyan WG660242-ST) once he saw my Asus RT-AX86U (single 2.5 port) and Asus TUF-BE6500 (quad 2.5G ports). I would have gone with the S$55.90 per month offer with TP-Link HB810 if the offer was available at that time. It is not a great one (TP-Link service provide model) but it is at least capable of 10G and it is a true WiFi 7 router with 6GHz band.

5. Singtel is selling HB810 as an add-on at S$16.80 per month x 24 month = S$403.20.
https://www.singtel.com/personal/products-services/broadband/eform/wifi7
 
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This was exactly my plan and I did not plan to bridge another LAN port at all, since this was the experiences from those early users who were able to bridge the Singtel ONR with older FW versions (same behaviour as the GPON ONR bridging case from Singtel 2Gbps and WC 2.5Gbps users).

But no idea why it is not working now. That is why I took the risk and bridged LAN 2.

You can try it to see if it works for you or not.
Xiaofan sir, can i check what's your dhcp settings on the ONR?
 

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This was exactly my plan and I did not plan to bridge another LAN port at all, since this was the experiences from those early users who were able to bridge the Singtel ONR with older FW versions (same behaviour as the GPON ONR bridging case from Singtel 2Gbps and WC 2.5Gbps users).

But no idea why it is not working now. That is why I took the risk and bridged LAN 2.

You can try it to see if it works for you or not.

Just checked again why the LAN clients do not work for the unbridged port.

You can see from the below ZTE F8648P ONR diagnosis utility. Basically WAN side has no issues but LAN side (unbridged ports) does not work with Internet access. As per the reports here, you can still use unbridged ports with Singtel TV Box. And Singtel Digital Voice will still work.

BTW, I have Singtel native IPv6 enabled (requested through Singtel and enabled in Singtel Backend), so the diagnosis shows IPv6. However, it is the same for IPv4.

No ideas why it is like this though --> probably a limitation imposed by Singtel for ZTE F8648P ONR.

Take note DHCP server and DNS server for LAN clients are still working. It seems to me that Internet IPv4/IPv6 gateways are disabled.

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FYI, old singtel tv box (HDD) still work on unbridge ports while port 5 is bridged.
phone line still work on zte F8648P onr

 

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FYI, old singtel tv box (HDD) still work on unbridge ports while port 5 is bridged.
phone line still work on zte F8648P onr

Thanks for the confirmation.

Just want to confirn with you that you also have the same issue that unbridged ports do not work with Internet access. Thanks.
 

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Thanks for the confirmation.

Just want to confirn with you that you also have the same issue that unbridged ports do not work with Internet access. Thanks.
yes, they do not work on unbridged port for internet
 

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Have also successfully bridged the ONR on port 5. Internet working fine but no ipv6 address allocated. Not sure if tangpx managed to get this working. I'm using an asus AX3000 router
 

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Have also successfully bridged the ONR on port 5. Internet working fine but no ipv6 address allocated. Not sure if tangpx managed to get this working. I'm using an asus AX3000 router

I believe you have to request Singtel to get native IPv6 working, no matter you bridge the ONR or not. And not all areas have Singtel native IPv6.

Singtel 6rd IPv6 should work on your router.

Reference:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/singtel-5gbps-ipv6.7053976/page-3
 

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Have also successfully bridged the ONR on port 5. Internet working fine but no ipv6 address allocated. Not sure if tangpx managed to get this working. I'm using an asus AX3000 router

BTW, you may want to upgrade your Asus RT-AX3000/TUF-AX3000 router (worse if you use RT-AX3000P since it has only 256MB RAM). They only have 1G WAN port and they have slow 32bit CPUs. performance using 6rd may not be good.
 

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BTW, you may want to upgrade your Asus RT-AX3000/TUF-AX3000 router (worse if you use RT-AX3000P since it has only 256MB RAM). They only have 1G WAN port and they have slow 32bit CPUs. performance using 6rd may not be good.
Yeah will upgrade likely next year to wifi7 when it drops more in price and becomes more mainstream. Currently do not own any devices supporting wifi7 anw
 

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nice sharing guys...

TLDR:
Bridged XGS-PON ONR -> 10G Port (Internet Access) | LAN 1 - 4 (No Internet Access, but can use for Singtel TV)
 

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There is a mention of getting Nokia XGS-PON ONR instead of ZTE F8648P XGS-PON ONR in this thread. At that time Singtel has not really deployed the Nokia ONR and there is no listing of Nokia XGS-PON ONR on any of the Singtel websites.

Now Singtel has listed the Nokia XGS-PON ONR. Very interestingly it is the same Nokia XS-240X-A model, used as an ONT for Starhub 5Gbps/10Gbps plans (MR users may have Nokia XS-250X-A or Nokia XS-240X-A).
https://www.singtel.com/personal/support/broadband/routers-ont
 

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Anyone managed to get the new ONR? would like to find out if other ports have internet access once the 10g port is bridged.
 

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nope, once bridge a port, the rest of the port does not have internet access and you still able to watch singtel tv from any of the unbridge ports. you can only access the onr settings. maybe you can try to ask for more ipv4 from the provider (not sure if there is extra charge).
 

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Anyone managed to get the new ONR? would like to find out if other ports have internet access once the 10g port is bridged.

nope, once bridge a port, the rest of the port does not have internet access and you still able to watch singtel tv from any of the unbridge ports. you can only access the onr settings. maybe you can try to ask for more ipv4 from the provider (not sure if there is extra charge).

For those who want to take some risks, other than bridging the 10G LAN port (if that is successful), you can bridge a 2nd ONR LAN port (gigabit only). Now you connect another router to that port and you may get Internet access, with one more public IPv4 address.

The risk is that you may need to be careful since SingTel may still have the limit of 4 public IPv4 addreses in 24 hours. So to play safe, try not to change routers after that. If you need to change, shut down the router for 24 hours before changing to a new one.

YMMV. You are on your own risk if you bridge the 2nd LAN port. Do not blame me if you lose the internet access for 24 hours.
 
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