SingTel 3Gbps, 5Gbps & 10 Gbps Enhanced

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xiaofan said:
Singtel installer just came and install the 5Gbps service. He saw my Asus routers and ZTE router. Then he did not bother to install the bundled free Singtel AX5400 wireless router any more.

He just asked me whether I have 10G capable device to try the speedtest. I told him yes. So I used my 2021 Acer laptop (Intel Core i5-1135G7, 16GB/512GB) with IOcrest USB 4 to 10G NIC to carry out two tests. The results are good.

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how come you subscribed to 5Gbps, but the speed is above 5Gbps?
 
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xiaofan said:
Singtel installer just came and install the 5Gbps service. He saw my Asus routers and ZTE router. Then he did not bother to install the bundled free Singtel AX5400 wireless router any more.

He just asked me whether I have 10G capable device to try the speedtest. I told him yes. So I used my 2021 Acer laptop (Intel Core i5-1135G7, 16GB/512GB) with IOcrest USB 4 to 10G NIC to carry out two tests. The results are good.

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Managed to bridge the ONR?
 
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As I mentioned before, I will try this ONR setup (not bridged) for a while to see how bad it is with Double NAT.

1. Original setup for Singtel 1Gbps plan.
Singtel ONT -- TP-Link Smart Switch TL-SG105E --> split into two separate networks (two public IPv4 addresses and two /56 IPv6 address segments). This trick seems to be only possible with Singtel ONT.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/working-singtel-vlan-settings-with-tplink-sg108e.5746952/

First network -- Asus RT-AX86U as router -- Singtel TV box
Second network -- Intel N100 mini PC with quad 2.5G ports running PVE and virtual OpenWRT/pfSense router -- Asus TUF-6500 or ZTE BE7200 Pro+ as AP.

2. Temporary Singtel 5Gbps setup

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 10G port -- not used, for 10G Speedtest, will connect to a Mini PC with dual SFP+ ports and dual 2.5G ports later.

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 1G port -- Asus RT-AX86U in router mode. Double NAT.

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 1G port -- Intel N100 mini PC with quad 2.5G ports running PVE and virtual OpenWRT (Double NAT) -- ZTE BE7200 Pro + in AP mode.

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 1G port -- Singtel TV box

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR phone port -- cordless phone (not really used)

3. Missing features -- no more IPv6.
 
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xiaofan said:
As I mentioned before, I will try this ONR setup (not bridged) for a while to see how bad it is with Double NAT.

2. Temporary Singtel 5Gbps setup

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 10G port -- not used, for 10G Speedtest, will connect to a Mini PC with dual SFP+ ports and dual 2.5G ports later.

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 1G port -- Asus RT-AX86U in router mode. Double NAT.

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 1G port -- Intel N100 mini PC with quad 2.5G ports running PVE and virtual OpenWRT (Double NAT) -- ZTE BE7200 Pro + in AP mode.

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 1G port -- Singtel TV box

Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR phone port -- cordless phone (not really used)
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1. Minor changes to use it as an aggregated 4.5Gbps plan before I set up the Miniroute R1 Mini PC with Dual SFP+ ports.

1) 2.5Gbps from the ONR 10Gbps LAN port
Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 10G port -- CWWK Intel N100 mini PC with quad 2.5G ports running PVE and virtual OpenWRT (Double NAT) -- ZTE BE7200 Pro + in AP mode.

2) 2Gbps with Asus RT-AX86U router Dual WAN Load Balancing from the ONR 1Gbps port x 2
Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 1G LAN port x 2 -- Asus RT-AX86U in router mode with Dual WAN Load Balancing (Double NAT).

2. OOkla SpeedTest results.

1) Using the CWWK mini PC virtual OpenWRT (with quad 2.5G ports)
Bash: 
root@OpenWrt:~/ookla# ./speedtest -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     1.78 ms   (jitter: 0.13ms, low: 1.63ms, high: 1.96ms)
    Download:  2348.68 Mbps (data used: 1.1 GB)
                  3.26 ms   (jitter: 0.25ms, low: 1.45ms, high: 3.80ms)
      Upload:  2353.11 Mbps (data used: 2.1 GB)
                  7.45 ms   (jitter: 0.47ms, low: 1.40ms, high: 8.83ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/75764d5e-e348-4607-9fe9-1ac6bb31d445

2) Using another CWWK Intel N100 CPU based mini PC connected to the RT-AX86U 2.5G LAN port (with dual 2.5G ports). The speed below shows that Dual WAN Load balancing is working.

Bash: 
root@pve8new:~# ./speedtest -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     1.53 ms   (jitter: 0.15ms, low: 1.43ms, high: 1.60ms)
    Download:  1884.04 Mbps (data used: 872.5 MB)
                  3.82 ms   (jitter: 0.46ms, low: 1.57ms, high: 4.49ms)
      Upload:  1874.89 Mbps (data used: 1.8 GB)
                  5.27 ms   (jitter: 0.43ms, low: 1.93ms, high: 6.11ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%

3) Using the Asus RT-AX86U router to run SpeedTest CLI --> a bit slower download speeed due to the slow CPU (BCM4908 quad core Arm Cortex A53 at 1.8GHz).

Bash: 
xiaofan@RT-AX86U-2D40:/tmp/mnt/MYPART/root# ./speedtest -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     1.97 ms   (jitter: 0.11ms, low: 1.85ms, high: 2.10ms)
    Download:  1448.59 Mbps (data used: 688.4 MB)
                  5.75 ms   (jitter: 0.95ms, low: 2.76ms, high: 8.24ms)
      Upload:  1868.64 Mbps (data used: 1.9 GB)
                  5.52 ms   (jitter: 0.67ms, low: 1.81ms, high: 7.33ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/4cf61991-dff4-4c2a-bdc6-f4655fc3f6ca
 
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kero89 said:
Never itchy finger go into admin login to see if the bridge option is still there on your current fw? 😉
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Just checked. The option is there.

Latest FW:
Hardware Version V2.1
Software Version V2.1.10P5N19
Boot Version V2.1.10P10N5

But once I bridged one port, the internet will be gone, as what is mentioned by @lightstal and @BlonkBloink. Looks like Singtel patched the two IPv4 addresses loophole for ZTE F8648P ONR users (Singtel 5Gbps/10Gbps plan).
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...zte-f8648p-superadmin-password.6946718/page-5
 
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Recontracted my old Singtel 1Gbps plan to the 5Gbps plan after some Singtel folks came around conducting a door-to-door check in with residents. Spoke briefly with the representatives and did an on-the-spot recontract since my plan was expiring in September.

Came back one Saturday and the NLT contractors were poking around at the riser outside my flat. Took half day leave for the NLT appointment only for them to come in and spend 15 minutes to take some measurements before they left.

Singtel guy came at the start of August to take back the old ALU ONT (it served me well for many, many years) and replace it with the ZTE ONR. He saw the old Ubiquiti USG-3P I had been using and was thoroughly puzzled. He didn't notice the USW Enterprise 8 nor the U7 Pro Max I'd stuck on the ceiling, so I let him do his thing with the Singtel Mesh thing that came with the plan.

(Side note: The Singtel Mesh system was a major disappointment. I wanted to give it a test run, but realised that the SSID would not accept a space in it for whatever reason. Couldn't change to my preferred SSID, so I've stashed it away in the corner.)

Picked up a 10Gbps SFP+ for my USW Enterprise 8 at the start of the week and plugged it into the ONR's 10Gbps port. No issues so far.

I'm slowly upgrading my devices to 2.5/10Gbps speeds. Fastest WiFi device is my iPhone 15 Pro Max, and I got a USB3 to 2.5Gbps dongle and a USB4 Travel Hub (with 2.5Gbps) for my laptops (one personal, one gaming).

Will get some 10Gbps adapters to test out the overall bandwidth.

I did tweak the DNS on the ONR to point to Cloudflare's DNS. I was slightly befuddled when it showed up in two places (Local Network -> LAN -> DHCP Server and Local Network -> DNS -> DNS).
 
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Hollud said:
Recontracted my old Singtel 1Gbps plan to the 5Gbps plan after some Singtel folks came around conducting a door-to-door check in with residents. Spoke briefly with the representatives and did an on-the-spot recontract since my plan was expiring in September.

Came back one Saturday and the NLT contractors were poking around at the riser outside my flat. Took half day leave for the NLT appointment only for them to come in and spend 15 minutes to take some measurements before they left.

Singtel guy came at the start of August to take back the old ALU ONT (it served me well for many, many years) and replace it with the ZTE ONR. He saw the old Ubiquiti USG-3P I had been using and was thoroughly puzzled. He didn't notice the USW Enterprise 8 nor the U7 Pro Max I'd stuck on the ceiling, so I let him do his thing with the Singtel Mesh thing that came with the plan.

(Side note: The Singtel Mesh system was a major disappointment. I wanted to give it a test run, but realised that the SSID would not accept a space in it for whatever reason. Couldn't change to my preferred SSID, so I've stashed it away in the corner.)

Picked up a 10Gbps SFP+ for my USW Enterprise 8 at the start of the week and plugged it into the ONR's 10Gbps port. No issues so far.

I'm slowly upgrading my devices to 2.5/10Gbps speeds. Fastest WiFi device is my iPhone 15 Pro Max, and I got a USB3 to 2.5Gbps dongle and a USB4 Travel Hub (with 2.5Gbps) for my laptops (one personal, one gaming).

Will get some 10Gbps adapters to test out the overall bandwidth.

I did tweak the DNS on the ONR to point to Cloudflare's DNS. I was slightly befuddled when it showed up in two places (Local Network -> LAN -> DHCP Server and Local Network -> DNS -> DNS).
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You recontract to 5gbps for $49 / month?
 
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Hollud said:
The plan was $45.90 with an additional 10% for Singtel Circle. But it came with the Singtel Mesh Arc system for an additional $10. So in total, it's about $51/month.
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Very nice price at S$45.90 per month. With additional 10% discount from Singtel Circle, that is only S$41.31 per month.

I am paying S$49.90 per month for my recontract to Singtel 5Gbps plan ...

As for the Arcadyan mesh, I will say it is not worth the extra S$10 per month for power users like you who use a nice setup. Your Ubiquiti Unifi U7 Pro Max will be much much better than Singtel provided mesh solution. Even for average users I will recommend against Singtel provided mesh solution (Arcadyan or Askey now, same for older Airties)

Singtel issued the free Arcadyan AX5400 router to me as well but the installer did not even bother to open it once he saw my Mini PCs, 2.5G switches and Asus/ZTE wireless routers.
 
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xiaofan said:
Just checked. The option is there.

Latest FW:
Hardware Version V2.1
Software Version V2.1.10P5N19
Boot Version V2.1.10P10N5

But once I bridged one port, the internet will be gone, as what is mentioned by @lightstal and @BlonkBloink. Looks like Singtel patched the two IPv4 addresses loophole for ZTE F8648P ONR users (Singtel 5Gbps/10Gbps plan).
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...zte-f8648p-superadmin-password.6946718/page-5
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I now keyi bridge 3 ports, keep calling 1688 disturb them then a tech came down change for me a nokia ONR. All good now
 
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BlonkBloink said:
I now keyi bridge 3 ports, keep calling 1688 disturb them then a tech came down change for me a nokia ONR. All good now
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Interesting, so you managed to get the admin user/pass, and bridged from there?

Wonder if it’s a matter of time before they plug that loophole.
 
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xiaofan said:
1. Minor changes to use it as an aggregated 4.5Gbps plan before I set up the Miniroute R1 Mini PC with Dual SFP+ ports.

1) 2.5Gbps from the ONR 10Gbps LAN port
Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 10G port -- CWWK Intel N100 mini PC with quad 2.5G ports running PVE and virtual OpenWRT (Double NAT) -- ZTE BE7200 Pro + in AP mode.

2) 2Gbps with Asus RT-AX86U router Dual WAN Load Balancing from the ONR 1Gbps port x 2
Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 1G LAN port x 2 -- Asus RT-AX86U in router mode with Dual WAN Load Balancing (Double NAT).
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I have not set up the Minirouter R1 yet to run PVE now that I can not easily bridge the ZTE F8648P ONR. I will leave it to run Ubuntu 24.04 now.

New connnection scheme to fully utilize the 5Gbps bandwidth.

1) Singtel F8648P ONR 10Gbps LAN port --> Hasivo Switch with dual 10G SFP+ ports + SFP+ copper module (hot, using a USB fan here). I will change it to another Hasivo model with one SFP+ port and one 10GBase-T port so that I do not need to use the hot SFP+ copper module.

2) Hasivo Switch 2nd 10G SFP+ port --> DAC Cable --> Miniroute R1 Intel N100 Mini PC 10G SFP+ port

3) Hasivo switch 2.5G port 2 --> CWWK Intel N100 mini PC with quad 2.5G ports running PVE and virtual
OpenWRT (Double NAT) along with some Linux containers and Linux/BSD VMs -- ZTE BE7200 Pro+ (or Asus TUF-6500) in AP mode.

4) Hasivo switch 2.5G port 3 --> Asus RT-AX86U in router mode using 2.5G port as WAN (Double NAT).

5) Hasivo switch 2.5G port 4 --> Another CWWK Intel N100 mini PC with dual 2.5G ports running PVE and a few Linux contaniners and Linux/BSD VMs.

6) Hasivo switch 2.5G port 1 -- not used now

7) Asus RT-AX86U 1G LAN port --> TP-Link TL-SH1008 8-ports 2.5G switch --> 2.5G LAN port of the two CWWK mini PC and the Miniroute R1 mini PC. This is used as PVE admin access port when I connect my laptop to the Asus RT-AX86U router using wireless. I also use it to SSH/xrdp into the Ubuntu 24.04 Linux installation of the Miniroute R1 N100 mini PC.
 
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Singtel 5Gbps speed seems to be pretty stable.

6:20pm Thursday 15-August-2024, wired speedtest results using the Miniroute R1 Intel N100 CPU based mini PC, running Ubuntu Linux 24.04 64 bit version.
Bash: 
mcuee@miniroute10g:~/build/speedtest$ ./speedtest -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     1.72 ms   (jitter: 0.09ms, low: 1.65ms, high: 1.88ms)
    Download:  5627.88 Mbps (data used: 6.4 GB)
                  1.28 ms   (jitter: 0.22ms, low: 1.00ms, high: 3.60ms)
      Upload:  4942.08 Mbps (data used: 6.4 GB)
                  3.70 ms   (jitter: 0.42ms, low: 1.60ms, high: 13.84ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/e044148b-9c5d-4f12-8561-41e1a11bf3d1

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