The Spectacles Thread. - Part 2

[melizza]

I am a teenager wanna follow trend HAHAHA, I guess I will go for ray-ban round specs

Round specs try Dita

 

[cokiee]

Hi friends, already pulled the trigger so purely out of curiosity where this retailer stands in terms of pricing; would anyone be so kind to advise if this was fair/expensive/cheaper vis-a-vis market for this pair of lenses?

Brand: Hoya + blue control
Index: 1.6
Degree: 300 short sightedness / 125 astigmatism; 250 short sightedness / 175 astigmatism

(degree numbers approximate; can't remember exactly)

How much would something like that cost?

 

[melizza]

You lack providing the frame you chose. Unless you plan to hold the lenses on your hand ?

Hoya blue control ; very prone to scratches. I won't recommend . Zeiss or crizal will be more worth it . Zeiss got stronger durability while criizal lower in price

Hi friends, already pulled the trigger so purely out of curiosity where this retailer stands in terms of pricing; would anyone be so kind to advise if this was fair/expensive/cheaper vis-a-vis market for this pair of lenses?

Brand: Hoya + blue control
Index: 1.6
Degree: 300 short sightedness / 125 astigmatism; 250 short sightedness / 175 astigmatism

(degree numbers approximate; can't remember exactly)

How much would something like that cost?

 

[cokiee]

You lack providing the frame you chose. Unless you plan to hold the lenses on your hand ?

Hoya blue control ; very prone to scratches. I won't recommend . Zeiss or crizal will be more worth it . Zeiss got stronger durability while criizal lower in price

In the comparison, the frame is the constant so I didn't include it actually. I chose a unbranded frame @ 150 ( i think!) for what it's worth. The lenses cost me 200.

I have heard about the blue control also, but Zeiss being my other option, will cost me 80% more, something I don't really want to pay currently. Is Hoya really bad? That said, I'm currently using what is presumably an older generation pair of hoya (specs have been with me ~5 years) and while there are micro scratches, I find it acceptable - wonder if performance is expected to be similar?

 

[melizza]

Opticians would say its marketing . Brand at play. But is it really that true?

Would you say a Honda Accord feels the same as a Toyota Prius? This doesn't mean the Prius is lacking in anyway. But are they the same just because different brand thus different price?

Hoya blue control is made in Japan . Pioneer in blue control tech. But lenses very prone to scratches.
Zeiss made in Germany, expensive. Blue protect came late to the game but worth. Sharper and clearer clarity

In the comparison, the frame is the constant so I didn't include it actually. I chose a unbranded frame @ 150 ( i think!) for what it's worth. The lenses cost me 200.

I have heard about the blue control also, but Zeiss being my other option, will cost me 80% more, something I don't really want to pay currently. Is Hoya really bad? That said, I'm currently using what is presumably an older generation pair of hoya (specs have been with me ~5 years) and while there are micro scratches, I find it acceptable - wonder if performance is expected to be similar?

 

[cokiee]

Opticians would say its marketing . Brand at play. But is it really that true?

Would you say a Honda Accord feels the same as a Toyota Prius? This doesn't mean the Prius is lacking in anyway. But are they the same just because different brand thus different price?

Hoya blue control is made in Japan . Pioneer in blue control tech. But lenses very prone to scratches.
Zeiss made in Germany, expensive. Blue protect came late to the game but worth. Sharper and clearer clarity

ah pardon my lack of ability to comprehend here, but what is the point you're driving with the marketing bit?

Truth be told my optometrist did say the same thing - hoya is more likey to scratch, and the accuracy can be a bit off when compared to zeiss. I guess the question is then - is the difference significant enough to 1) warrant the upcharge and 2) be noticeable by the user?

That said we've also digressed I think.

I appreciate your inputs!

 

[Pesantkie]

im looking for this kind de HAHA

 

[melizza]

ah pardon my lack of ability to comprehend here, but what is the point you're driving with the marketing bit?

Truth be told my optometrist did say the same thing - hoya is more likey to scratch, and the accuracy can be a bit off when compared to zeiss. I guess the question is then - is the difference significant enough to 1) warrant the upcharge and 2) be noticeable by the user?

That said we've also digressed I think.

I appreciate your inputs!

Try to be open to inputs . Just sharing because I also had a hard time researching. All those I shared are truths

 

[ftpofmpo]

Wonder if everyone here has moderate to high levels of myopia or astigmatism.

Cos if the lens power is low, only generic low index lens is needed, where products from brand are mostly the same, even for the hard coatings. AR coatings may differ but low index have lesser reflections anyway.

It's only at the high index, aspheric/biaspheric or freeform end where the difference comes in

pc glasses with only a slight imperceptible change in colour when looking through are not useful, that is why nightshift modes on iphones produce a noticeable yellowish colour due to a reduction in blue light emitted.

Sadly most clear pc glasses (which are based on reflective blue coatings) do not reflect enough to be useful, I believe

 

[MeowEatsFish]

Are you middle aged who needs a progressive spectacles tailored for pcs or just looking for pc lens?

I'm in my 20s. Looking at PC lens cause I face the comp all day at work.

Sent from LGE NEXUS 5X using GAGT

 

[ftpofmpo]

I'm in my 20s. Looking at PC lens cause I face the comp all day at work.

Sent from LGE NEXUS 5X using GAGT

You can buy a clip-on first and see if it works for you. It will be tinted slightly yellowish instead of having the reflective coats. Can find them on taobao, under 防蓝.

Otherwise you can tint your lens slightly yellow or find the cheapest pc lens. This isn't sophisticated optics, brand premium not justified

 

[Xeon_sg]

Opticians would say its marketing . Brand at play. But is it really that true?

Would you say a Honda Accord feels the same as a Toyota Prius? This doesn't mean the Prius is lacking in anyway. But are they the same just because different brand thus different price?

Hoya blue control is made in Japan . Pioneer in blue control tech. But lenses very prone to scratches.
Zeiss made in Germany, expensive. Blue protect came late to the game but worth. Sharper and clearer clarity

And to add on, viewing through the Zeiss lens, it's almost close to clear while others still has that slight yellowing tint.

No regrets getting the Zeiss BlueProtect back then. It's been close to 2 years now. And now I read up and see people commenting that BlueProtect is only meant for indoors, and not outdoors/night time. Wth.

 

[Xeon_sg]

In the comparison, the frame is the constant so I didn't include it actually. I chose a unbranded frame @ 150 ( i think!) for what it's worth. The lenses cost me 200.

I have heard about the blue control also, but Zeiss being my other option, will cost me 80% more, something I don't really want to pay currently. Is Hoya really bad? That said, I'm currently using what is presumably an older generation pair of hoya (specs have been with me ~5 years) and while there are micro scratches, I find it acceptable - wonder if performance is expected to be similar?

5 years. That how 'stingy' we all are when it comes to eye wear. I used to be like that too, stretching the shelf life of the product to its maximum before I see the need to change. but think about this - we spend so much more $ on clothes, bags and shoes... and only use it for that few hours per day. Eye wear is on our faces EVERY SINGLE SECOND of the day (except bed time). No brainer on the ROI.

Learn to treat your windows to the soul better.

ah pardon my lack of ability to comprehend here, but what is the point you're driving with the marketing bit?

Truth be told my optometrist did say the same thing - hoya is more likey to scratch, and the accuracy can be a bit off when compared to zeiss. I guess the question is then - is the difference significant enough to 1) warrant the upcharge and 2) be noticeable by the user?

That said we've also digressed I think.

I appreciate your inputs!

It all boils down to your lifestyle. Are you the kind who would be cautious to use only anti-static, anti-scratch cloth, or do you usually not care and use any kind of cloth to wipe clean?

Btw, here's a recent comparison done between Hoya and Zeiss:
http://evershineoptical.com.sg/2015/02/10/blue-cut-lenses-comparison-2-brands/

Enough said.

 

[toaddd]

Hi all. I wanna get a specs which will be worth $600. Will make my lens transition and good for looking at computer? What's that term called? Anyone can recommend me any shop which sells high quality lens and specs?

 

[ftpofmpo]

Hi all. I wanna get a specs which will be worth $600. Will make my lens transition and good for looking at computer? What's that term called? Anyone can recommend me any shop which sells high quality lens and specs?

Photochromic lens may have blue block function already, read a few pages back

 

[SkimMilk]

Hoya has much better scratch resistant and longer lasting coating. None of my hoya lenses past and present has a single naked eye scratch. Not even hairline. U need to go under microscope to see the finer scratches if any. Not even those spots and dots so prevalent on other lens brands. Hoya lenses only grow yellowish with age but rarely scratched. I hope they will be in business for a long time and don't drop in quality.

Hoya is a huge company and they have a quite a name for camera lens filters too so you don't have to worry about them folding / dropping in quality.

 

[mikeeeey]

Currently on my 2nd pair of IC BERLIN.

Gonna get a new pair but don't know should stick to ic berlin or Oakley. Sian

 

[FSC]

Going to City Square @ JB to order Hoya iD Sensity lens - which optical shops in CS are recommended for good service & competitive pricing after good 2X% or 3X% discount.

 

[cokiee]

5 years. That how 'stingy' we all are when it comes to eye wear. I used to be like that too, stretching the shelf life of the product to its maximum before I see the need to change. but think about this - we spend so much more $ on clothes, bags and shoes... and only use it for that few hours per day. Eye wear is on our faces EVERY SINGLE SECOND of the day (except bed time). No brainer on the ROI.

Learn to treat your windows to the soul better.




It all boils down to your lifestyle. Are you the kind who would be cautious to use only anti-static, anti-scratch cloth, or do you usually not care and use any kind of cloth to wipe clean?

Btw, here's a recent comparison done between Hoya and Zeiss:
http://evershineoptical.com.sg/2015/02/10/blue-cut-lenses-comparison-2-brands/

Enough said.

While I can see where you're coming from with regards to 'treating the windows to the soul better', I cannot agree with your thoughts about stinginess and ROI. By and large, I am someone who treats my items with care and use them for their functional purpose. In this instance, if I may ask, assuming that my power hasn't changed (it hasn't) and the scratches on the lenses have not affected my ability to see well (they've not) with the glasses on, will changing my glasses - presumably because I can - be deemed as treating my eyes better, and if so, how? Also, how is ROI here measured?

Thanks also for the article, but what does it serve to prove in this instance? There are a whole host of problems here, but that's another story for another time.

Having said these, I do get your point - Zeiss > Hoya.

 

[x3dnd3x]

Can i just check with the pros here.

I'm currently thinking of getting a pair of spectacle. Problem is, my face and shape, wear those small frame specs won't look good. Can only wear those avaitor kind of frames or in laymen term, big frames spectacles.

I heard from friends that big frame specs, the lens would be clear in the middle area, basically your eye level area whereby the rest not as clear. So wanna check, having a big frame, can the lens be made clear throughout? My degree should be 100 or beow but i see white background, vision would be blur.