The Visionaire EC

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Updates on some of the available ECs (figures may not be 100% accurate):

ECs with Resale Levy applicable for 2nd-timers:

Northwave (Woodlands): Est. TOP Feb 2019
(abt 284 units left) Abt 20% sold
2 Bedroom fr $542k
3 Bedroom fr $672k
4 Bedroom fr $929k
5 Bedroom fr $1.05m
Penthouse fr $1.3m

The Visionaire (Canberra): Est. TOP Oct 2018
(abt 327 units left) Abt 48% sold
2 Bedroom fr $599k
3 Bedroom fr $683k
3 + study fr $748k
3 BR Premium fr $777k
3BR CoSpace fr $931k
4 Bedroom fr $894k
4BR CoSpace fr $1.07m

Wandervale (CCK): Est. TOP 1st Qtr 2019
(ard 32 units left) Abt 94% sold
3 Bedroom fully sold!
3 BR Premium fr $776k
4 Bedroom fully sold!

The Brownstone (Canberra): Est. TOP Jan 2018
(ard 120 units left) Abt 81% sold
2 Bedroom fr $624k (last 11 units)
3 Bedroom fr $706k
3 BR Premium fr $798k (last unit)
4 Bedroom fr $927k (last 5 units)

The Vales (Sengkang): Est. TOP Aug 2018
(abt 97 units left) Abt 81% sold
2 Bedroom fr $631k
3 Bedroom fr $717k
3 BR Premium @ $780k (last unit) !
4 Bedroom fully sold!
4 BR Premium fully sold!
Maisonette fr $1.27m

Westwood Residences (Jurong): Est. TOP Aug 2018
(ard 166 units left) Abt 65% sold
2 Bedroom fully sold!
3 Bedroom fr $699k
3 BR Premium fr $750k
4 Bedroom fr $888k
4 BR Premium fr $937k
5 Bedroom fr $1.13m

Signature@Yishun: Est. TOP May 2018
(abt 356 units left) Abt 32% sold
2 Bedroom fr $563k
3 Bedroom fr $699k
3 BR Premium fr $779k
4 Bedroom fr $868k
4 BR Premium fr $964k

The Criterion: Est. TOP Dec 2018
(abt 325 units left) Abt 35% sold
2 Bedroom fr $560k
3 Bedroom fr $629k
3 BR Premium fr $740k
4 Bedroom fr $828k
4 BR Premium fr $931k
5 Bedroom fr $1.08m
Penthouse fully sold!


ECs*without*Resale Levy:

Forestville (Woodlands): Attained TOP in Apr'16!
(last 3 units left)*
4 Bedroom fr $986k (last unit)
4 Bedroom Dual Key: $1.174m (last unit)
5 Bedroom fr $1.121m (last unit)

Skypark Residences (Sembawang): Attained TOP in Aug'16! (last unit left)
5 Bedroom: $1.232m (last unit)

Ecopolitan (Punggol): Attained TOP in Aug'16!
(last 3 units left) Abt 99% sold
3BR Dual Key fr $838k => Last 3 units

Bellewoods (Woodlands): Est. TOP Nov 2017
(abt 86 units left) Abt 84% sold
2 Bedroom fully sold!
3 Bedroom fully sold!
3 BR Premium fr $828k (last 11 units)
3 BR CoSpace fr $950k
4 Bedroom fr $999k (last 5 units)
4 BR Premium fr $944k
4 BR CoSpace fr $1.15m (last 2 units)
5 BR CoSpace fr $1.14m (last 8 units)

The Terrace (Punggol): Est. TOP Mar 2018
(abt 72 units left) Abt 90% sold
3 Bedroom (1001sqft) fr $759k*
3 BR Premium (1076sqft) fr $790k
4 Bedroom fully sold!
4 BR Premium fully sold!
5 Bedroom Penthouse fully sold!
 

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Waterfront condominium sails into troubled waters

Residents stepping over a temporary pipe laid across the path near the taxi stand at The Sail@Marina Bay. The pipe had to be put up to supply water to one of the two towers after an underground pipe burst in April. -- ST PHOTO: KUA CHEE SIONG

PUBLISHEDSEP 8, 2013, 10:11 AM SGT



Owners approve $250,000 to fight developer over alleged defects
Joyce Lim And Charissa Yong

Residents of waterfront condominium The Sail@Marina Bay have prepared a war chest to embark on a legal battle against its developer over damaged fixtures.

Yesterday, about 100 owners and residents attended a tense, six-hour Extraordinary General Meeting (EGM), where they approved up to $250,000 in management funds to be used as legal fees.

However, three other key motions to resolve the property's issues - which ranged from falling glass panels and card access security to council members allegedly misusing their power to further their careers - failed to pass.



The long-running saga hit new heights last month, when The Sail's Management Corporation Strata Title (MCST) sent three letters of demand to its developer City Developments (CDL), calling for it to rectify the alleged defects.

Residents claim the property developer has yet to carry out any rectification work at The Sail - Singapore's tallest condominium, which has 1,100 units.

CDL confirmed that it had received the MCST's three letters. A spokesman said the MCST council had been responsible for The Sail's estate management and general upkeep since 2010.

"There were service contracts that have lapsed and repairs long overdue," he said. "There are numerous internal issues of management and maintenance against the MCST council. (Our subsidiary), having handed over the property more than three years ago, should not be dragged into their internal disputes."

Yesterday's meeting saw the condo's management council receive a mandate to take the developer to task.

Residents told The Sunday Times that barely two years after moving into their homes in 2008, numerous defects started popping up which have become almost impossible to live with.

In March 2011, they began to experience water leak issues at the lift and escalator areas.

In April this year, an underground water pipe which supplies water to one of the condo's two towers burst and cut off water supply to residents living in that tower.

"The burst pipe is a big issue," said Mr Alvin Tan, 60, a business management consultant who owns several units at The Sail. "The whole building is being compromised. The lifts were affected. There were also cracks on the glass panels of the lifts."

A 39-year-old resident, who declined to be named, said: "As an interim measure to the burst pipe, a temporary pipework connection had to be put up to supply water to the affected tower.

"This pipe runs over a path and driveway and across a postal room. It's not just unsightly, but a nuisance for people collecting their mail and a trip hazard, especially for the handicapped.

"About two weeks ago, another piece of glass shattered and fell from the glass canopy at the lobby. More than 10 such pieces have shattered in the past two years. This is seriously dangerous for people walking under it."

CDL said that the cause of the burst pipe had not been determined by the MCST.

Yesterday's motions to fit the condo's lifts with new internal finishes which are easier and cheaper to replace, as well as upgrade its security access system to encrypted card keys, were not voted through.

The Sunday Times understands that about 75 per cent of the vote share present yesterday was represented by proxy.

Yesterday's EGM also saw the failure of a motion to remove three council members accused of misusing their powers.

"They are property agents and have been subletting the units as serviced apartments," claimed Mr Tan. "This is a residential property but now we have people going in and out. It's like Geylang. I bought the units as residential units and now it's like a hotel. The Sail is located at a strategic area, but its security is a joke. Anybody can walk in.

"At the last Annual General Meeting in June, these three council members held more than 60 per cent of the proxy votes. It's a mockery for the subsidiary proprietors."

An online search showed several websites advertising short- term stays at The Sail. Under Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) guidelines on leasing and subletting of residential properties, such properties are meant for stays of six months or more.

The URA confirmed that it has received feedback that some units in The Sail are being leased for less than six months and is investigating. If investigations establish that a residential unit is being misused, the person responsible may be fined up to $200,000, imprisoned for a term of up to 12 months, or both.

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Other renowned developers also have their fair share
of issues. If I were to buy a 6 year property, I would look for quality of maintenance, layout, price and any past major structural issues in the development.
 

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Hope work has re-started at the Visionaire. Did MOM complete their investigation on the fatal mishap that happened on 19 Dec 2016?
 

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Hope work has re-started at the Visionaire. Did MOM complete their investigation on the fatal mishap that happened on 19 Dec 2016?

Hmm seems like u have been trying to post comments which would adverse people from considering Visionaire?

If u want to do so, u should actually provide a balanced view comparing to other ECs instead of disguising comments with the intention of sending out negative signals of the development. This is a very negative behaviour and disappointing to see that in people. I hope u r not a real estate agent or any related occupation.

I am sure if u want to find out about MOM investigation there r other means. Like contacting MOM or the developer? I don't think anyone in this forum is a spokesperson for MOM. Even if so, they can't reveal anything on the forum.

The key is also not when they will resume work but if they have improved their safety precautions for their workers.
 

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Hmm seems like u have been trying to post comments which would adverse people from considering Visionaire?

If u want to do so, u should actually provide a balanced view comparing to other ECs instead of disguising comments with the intention of sending out negative signals of the development. This is a very negative behaviour and disappointing to see that in people. I hope u r not a real estate agent or any related occupation.

I am sure if u want to find out about MOM investigation there r other means. Like contacting MOM or the developer? I don't think anyone in this forum is a spokesperson for MOM. Even if so, they can't reveal anything on the forum.

The key is also not when they will resume work but if they have improved their safety precautions for their workers.

Actually I don't see anything wrong with his post. Any delay with the stop-work will affect the TOP date.
 

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Actually I don't see anything wrong with his post. Any delay with the stop-work will affect the TOP date.

I think the progress of the development is already quite fast. From July to December, the blocks are now at least 9 storeys high. Brownstone may TOP even much earlier since they are using a different/faster way to construct. Either way, there will be impact.
 

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The roads surrounding both ECs have been widened to 2 lanes on their side. And you can also see the extension of Canberra Drive which leads down to Yishun Ave 7.
 

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Hmm seems like u have been trying to post comments which would adverse people from considering Visionaire?

If u want to do so, u should actually provide a balanced view comparing to other ECs instead of disguising comments with the intention of sending out negative signals of the development. This is a very negative behaviour and disappointing to see that in people. I hope u r not a real estate agent or any related occupation.

I am sure if u want to find out about MOM investigation there r other means. Like contacting MOM or the developer? I don't think anyone in this forum is a spokesperson for MOM. Even if so, they can't reveal anything on the forum.

The key is also not when they will resume work but if they have improved their safety precautions for their workers.

Agree with you, someone is trying very best to put negative comments on Visionaire.
 

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Probably rival developer & neighbouring who regret getting their unit than V's unit bah...

As too many supply now... Developer cant push more discount (MAS watching...) so the only way to win over buyer is give more unfavourable comment since Visionaire is such a potential good investment due to walking distance to Canberra MRT & future mall & sports hub... :)

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Agree with you, someone is trying very best to put negative comments on Visionaire.

To be honest, the number of prospective/genuine buyers on the HWZ thread is a small percentage. No real effect on sales.

I thought HWZ is for people to share experiences and information but some people inevitably post random stuff for their own agenda.

The digging up of old news about Qingjian was quite laughable because it already appeared much earlier in the thread. Anyone taking genuine interest would have known that.
 

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To be honest, the number of prospective/genuine buyers on the HWZ thread is a small percentage. No real effect on sales.

I thought HWZ is for people to share experiences and information but some people inevitably post random stuff for their own agenda.

The digging up of old news about Qingjian was quite laughable because it already appeared much earlier in the thread. Anyone taking genuine interest would have known that.

well...i see Visionaire buyer go to other thread dig out CDL's old news too. why ah? :s8:
 

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If we opt out the smart home, can I enjoy the 28 free course? Or in another words, if I opt out the smart home, what benefit that I cannot enjoy beside the smart home feature.


Updates on some of the available ECs (figures may not be 100% accurate):

ECs with Resale Levy applicable for 2nd-timers:

Northwave (Woodlands): Est. TOP Feb 2019
(abt 284 units left) Abt 20% sold
2 Bedroom fr $542k
3 Bedroom fr $672k
4 Bedroom fr $929k
5 Bedroom fr $1.05m
Penthouse fr $1.3m

The Visionaire (Canberra): Est. TOP Oct 2018
(abt 327 units left) Abt 48% sold
2 Bedroom fr $599k
3 Bedroom fr $683k
3 + study fr $748k
3 BR Premium fr $777k
3BR CoSpace fr $931k
4 Bedroom fr $894k
4BR CoSpace fr $1.07m

Wandervale (CCK): Est. TOP 1st Qtr 2019
(ard 32 units left) Abt 94% sold
3 Bedroom fully sold!
3 BR Premium fr $776k
4 Bedroom fully sold!

The Brownstone (Canberra): Est. TOP Jan 2018
(ard 120 units left) Abt 81% sold
2 Bedroom fr $624k (last 11 units)
3 Bedroom fr $706k
3 BR Premium fr $798k (last unit)
4 Bedroom fr $927k (last 5 units)

The Vales (Sengkang): Est. TOP Aug 2018
(abt 97 units left) Abt 81% sold
2 Bedroom fr $631k
3 Bedroom fr $717k
3 BR Premium @ $780k (last unit) !
4 Bedroom fully sold!
4 BR Premium fully sold!
Maisonette fr $1.27m

Westwood Residences (Jurong): Est. TOP Aug 2018
(ard 166 units left) Abt 65% sold
2 Bedroom fully sold!
3 Bedroom fr $699k
3 BR Premium fr $750k
4 Bedroom fr $888k
4 BR Premium fr $937k
5 Bedroom fr $1.13m

Signature@Yishun: Est. TOP May 2018
(abt 356 units left) Abt 32% sold
2 Bedroom fr $563k
3 Bedroom fr $699k
3 BR Premium fr $779k
4 Bedroom fr $868k
4 BR Premium fr $964k

The Criterion: Est. TOP Dec 2018
(abt 325 units left) Abt 35% sold
2 Bedroom fr $560k
3 Bedroom fr $629k
3 BR Premium fr $740k
4 Bedroom fr $828k
4 BR Premium fr $931k
5 Bedroom fr $1.08m
Penthouse fully sold!


ECs*without*Resale Levy:

Forestville (Woodlands): Attained TOP in Apr'16!
(last 3 units left)*
4 Bedroom fr $986k (last unit)
4 Bedroom Dual Key: $1.174m (last unit)
5 Bedroom fr $1.121m (last unit)

Skypark Residences (Sembawang): Attained TOP in Aug'16! (last unit left)
5 Bedroom: $1.232m (last unit)

Ecopolitan (Punggol): Attained TOP in Aug'16!
(last 3 units left) Abt 99% sold
3BR Dual Key fr $838k => Last 3 units

Bellewoods (Woodlands): Est. TOP Nov 2017
(abt 86 units left) Abt 84% sold
2 Bedroom fully sold!
3 Bedroom fully sold!
3 BR Premium fr $828k (last 11 units)
3 BR CoSpace fr $950k
4 Bedroom fr $999k (last 5 units)
4 BR Premium fr $944k
4 BR CoSpace fr $1.15m (last 2 units)
5 BR CoSpace fr $1.14m (last 8 units)

The Terrace (Punggol): Est. TOP Mar 2018
(abt 72 units left) Abt 90% sold
3 Bedroom (1001sqft) fr $759k*
3 BR Premium (1076sqft) fr $790k
4 Bedroom fully sold!
4 BR Premium fully sold!
5 Bedroom Penthouse fully sold!
 

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well...i see Visionaire buyer go to other thread dig out CDL's old news too. why ah? :s8:

Wow! That's very bad attitude from those Visionaire buyers! Is there a need to do so? I always thought only property agents have the agenda. I find that this behaviour is really inappropriate and I really hope our society can be better than this. We should exercise some responsibility over what we put online. Putting down others to make urself look better is NEVER the way to do things!
 

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Wow! That's very bad attitude from those Visionaire buyers! Is there a need to do so? I always thought only property agents have the agenda. I find that this behaviour is really inappropriate and I really hope our society can be better than this. We should exercise some responsibility over what we put online. Putting down others to make urself look better is NEVER the way to do things!

To justify that their choice was the right one.
 

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working very hard in other threads to SHARE how bad these developments are ah...:frus:

Aiyo... visionaire layout so nice... Compare to other developement where got such unique layout 2 rows.. its easy to find yr unit when visitor come.. other development are mostly like a maze... =p
 
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If we opt out the smart home, can I enjoy the 28 free course? Or in another words, if I opt out the smart home, what benefit that I cannot enjoy beside the smart home feature.

Wow.. yr questions i never think of that before.. logically entitled bah..
dun tel me go for free 1 year course muz show our OTP got include smart feature bo... Lol.

Dun worry bro/sis, i opted out smart feature too... The most we dun go courses lor.. haha...
 
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