Vinyl Flooring

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May i know whats the difference between spc flooring vs vinyl flooring ? Is it true spc flooring are better in terms of durability ?
 

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I know it sounds counter productive & also one of the advantages of vinyl is you overlay on existing tiles. BUT unless your budget super tight i suggest you hack off all the tiles, just cement the floor then put vinyl. Especially if its an old flat.

My colleague bought a resale flat which is about 30 years old. He is fourth owner. The previous owner had tiles but my colleague is not sure the tiles were laid since when. Anyway, like most ppl he just got contractor to lay vinyl so they simply did cement screeding then vinyl.

Dunno how many years later he noticed a slight bump in the vinyl but ignored it. Slowly became more obvious. He thought it was vinyl issue but turned out the tiles below had popped!!

So now he has to get contractor to remove vinyl, hack off the tiles, cement the floor & relay vinyl. Worse part is his furniture is all built in. Sure he can hack around the furniture but if one day the tiles below the built in cupboard or the built in feature wall cum TV console also pops then what?

Also, hacking around the furniture makes no sense cos the height difference. Under the built in furniture is tiles plus vinyl. Rest of house is vinyl. Floor will be uneven.

In short he had to redo EVERYTHING! The cost is one thing, imagine the inconvenience! Its not like there’s a spare flat for his family to move to. You rent a flat is a hassle plus hdb do not allow 1-2 month rentals. Staying in a hostel is also not cheap.

In the end he decided to renovate room by room while living in. So like everyone bunk into master BR while they do the other 2 BR. Then all move to other 2 BR while they do MBR. Then while kitchen and living room being done, all have to avoid these two.

Any idea how time consuming this is? Now still works in process. I wouldn’t be surprised if contractor charged more cos you waste so much of his time.
 
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I know it sounds counter productive & also one of the advantages of vinyl is you overlay on existing tiles. BUT unless your budget super tight i suggest you hack off all the tiles, just cement the floor then put vinyl. Especially if its an old flat.

My colleague bought a resale flat which is about 30 years old. He is fourth owner. The previous owner had tiles but my colleague is not sure the tiles were laid since when. Anyway, like most ppl he just got contractor to lay vinyl so they simply did cement screeding then vinyl.

Dunno how many years later he noticed a slight bump in the vinyl but ignored it. Slowly became more obvious. He thought it was vinyl issue but turned out the tiles below had popped!!

So now he has to get contractor to remove vinyl, hack off the tiles, cement the floor & relay vinyl. Worse part is his furniture is all built in. Sure he can hack around the furniture but if one day the tiles below the built in cupboard or the built in feature wall cum TV console also pops then what?

Also, hacking around the furniture makes no sense cos the height difference. Under the built in furniture is tiles plus vinyl. Rest of house is vinyl. Floor will be uneven.

In short he had to redo EVERYTHING! The cost is one thing, imagine the inconvenience! Its not like there’s a spare flat for his family to move to. You rent a flat is a hassle plus hdb do not allow 1-2 month rentals. Staying in a hostel is also not cheap.

In the end he decided to renovate room by room while living in. So like everyone bunk into master BR while they do the other 2 BR. Then all move to other 2 BR while they do MBR. Then while kitchen and living room being done, all have to avoid these two.

Any idea how time consuming this is? Now still works in process. I wouldn’t be surprised if contractor charged more cos you waste so much of his time.

I got the other problem. I hacked the tiles cos I want to avoid next time tiles pop out while i already laid vinyl or laminate. After hacking, den cement screed.

Turns out the cement screed needs to be really flat, within 5mm on 3m length in any direction, otherwise u will feel the bumpiness of the flooring and the vinyl or laminate flooring joints will break. To rework, need to put self leveling screed and wait for 2 to 3 days for the self levelling to dry and another day to lay the flooring.

If the tiles break, you can just remove the bad tiles and cement over the void and lay back the vinyl. It’s quite straightforward actually.
 
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Hey guys, will be starting my renovation this week. The current resale flat that we bought are laid with vinyl. As we going to demolish some walls that are sitting on the current vinyl. We decided to remove the existing vinyl and pvc skirting and replace with vinyl again. Had choose our vinyl but really dun like their skirting, hence decided not to put skirting at all.

Any Bros here have done without skirting at all? My I know any cons of without skirting?
 

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Hey guys, will be starting my renovation this week. The current resale flat that we bought are laid with vinyl. As we going to demolish some walls that are sitting on the current vinyl. We decided to remove the existing vinyl and pvc skirting and replace with vinyl again. Had choose our vinyl but really dun like their skirting, hence decided not to put skirting at all.

Any Bros here have done without skirting at all? My I know any cons of without skirting?

Main con is there will be dirt marks at the wall cos there are no skirtings to cover it.
 

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Hey guys, will be starting my renovation this week. The current resale flat that we bought are laid with vinyl. As we going to demolish some walls that are sitting on the current vinyl. We decided to remove the existing vinyl and pvc skirting and replace with vinyl again. Had choose our vinyl but really dun like their skirting, hence decided not to put skirting at all.

Any Bros here have done without skirting at all? My I know any cons of without skirting?

skirting for vinyl is purely for aesthetic only. It serve no purpose. If talk about cons i will say during mopping, the mop may stained the wall. That's what I can think of.
 

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I got the other problem. I hacked the tiles cos I want to avoid next time tiles pop out while i already laid vinyl or laminate. After hacking, den cement screed.

Turns out the cement screed needs to be really flat, within 3mm on 2ft length in any direction, otherwise u will feel the bumpiness of the flooring and the vinyl or laminate flooring joints will break. To rework, need to put self leveling screed and wait for 2 to 3 days for the self levelling to dry and another day to lay the flooring.

If the tiles break, you can just remove the bad tiles and cement over the void and lay back the vinyl. It’s quite straightforward actually.

usually the tolerance for screed is 2mm over 1m. Anything higher you will feel the bump. But vinyl is soft and will sit nicely on the sub floor shape after a while. So you wont feel the "air pocket" any more.
 

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Just moved into a resale flat with existing vinyl flooring but can see the condition not very good as some part got sound when walking over.

Can I ask if it is possible to replace and reinstall only some part of the vinyl flooring instead of changing for the whole house?
 

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I have seen toilets with vinyl which looks nice but is it really durable since the toilet is usually quite wet.... will the vinyl degrade and giive smell over time?
 

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I have seen toilets with vinyl which looks nice but is it really durable since the toilet is usually quite wet.... will the vinyl degrade and giive smell over time?

vinyl is not time tested. every company can claim this or that. there not much hard data on it.



best if a vinyl comany claim it will not degrade and give smell over time. check their t&c,is their warranty policy back up those claim.





just like when i when ask gain city on extender warranty . their staff told me even if you dont service your aircon it is covered under the 5 years

Then i quote them to explain this to me.
sauce: https://www.gaincity.com/extended-warranty/aircon


Exclusions from Coverage:
5: Any claims whereby, a failure to follow the manufacturer’s recommended routine maintenance, inspection, cleaning, lubrication, external adjustments, installation, operation or any other instructions to the customer has been determined.


13: Repairs necessitated by improper maintenance, accidental, intentional physical damage, damage by sand or water.



they told me no need serving also can repair if it technician fault but as quote: on number 5 and 13.

but it it black and white already said a failure to follow the manufacturer’s recommended routine maintenance and Repairs necessitated by improper maintenance

so what is improper maintenance and failure to follow the manufacturer’s recommended routine maintenance.


my guess is if i nv do maintenance or anyhow service my aircon by someone else then it not covered but staff told me can. so is both right?





in short always check their T&C, do remember T&C are always Subject To Change
 

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Hi i'm buying a flat that just MOP, so it's about 6 years old. ID suggesting I just overlay vinyl onto the tiles and parquet since its very good condition still.

Advisable? Or should i just hack and cement screed?

Also, ID says ok to overlay vinyls in the toilet including wet area? What do you all think?

TIA
 

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sorry for late reply. I seldom login here. No need self leveling as long as the floor is even and smooth. Bottom line, whatever subfloor we laid on, the vinyl will follow suit. Vinyl cannot produce magic to make uneven floor even.

even...mine is generally even just tat u know between tiles it will have cleavage.... any issue with tat ar
 

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Hi i'm buying a flat that just MOP, so it's about 6 years old. ID suggesting I just overlay vinyl onto the tiles and parquet since its very good condition still.

Advisable? Or should i just hack and cement screed?

Also, ID says ok to overlay vinyls in the toilet including wet area? What do you all think?

TIA

good for now, cos when he hand over the job it is still ok, but if u plan to say till the day u return to hdb, then more adv to hack away the tiles cos it might pop
 

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Hey guys anyone can recommend a good vinyl company that's reasonable priced?
 

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Hey guys anyone can recommend a good vinyl company that's reasonable priced?
I got mine done last month, from floor&co, their pricing quite reasonable, but there's this one worker, really meticulous with his work, I ask him to settle the corner nicely, end up exceeds my expectations.
this is their website https://www.floornco.com, but i found them on facebook though.
 

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My ID says if the flooring of my flat doesn't have any screeding or old tiles, then using vinyl flooring is just as expensive as using tiles. Is this true?
 
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