WiFi 7 routers (including WiFi 7 routers without 6GHz band support)

[xiaofan]

I don't see how that follows. How would a Cyber Security Label bar TP-Link from publishing a longer end date? That label sets minimum standards, not maximum ones.

Maybe, but that's not what TP-Link has published. Thus far they're unwilling to put more than mediocrity in writing — and mediocrity is a charitable description.

I totally understand your concern.

Unfortunately as of now, in terms of consumer WiFi 7 routers, TP-Link seems to be the most cost-effective vendor now in Singapore and many other parts of the world, now that Asus and Netgear WiFi 7 routers tend to be more expensive, especially 10Gbps capable models.

Personally I was using OpenWRT mini PC as the main router plus Asus RT-AX86U as AP previously. Now I use OpenWRT mini PC as the main router plus TP-Link Archer BE805 (bought at S$300 from an M1 user) or Asus TUF-BE6500 as main AP. It is difficult to beat the value of Archer BE805 (10G capable, triband WiFi 7 BE19000) with Asus or other brand.

It is even more difficult to beat the value of TP-Link HB710 (bought at S$192 from Starhub, dual 10G ports, triband WiFi 7 BE18000, 4 years HW warranty) if you are a Starhub user. In fact it also works with other ISPs. And Carousell resale price is lower than S$192.

 

[Slacking1977]

I will recommend the following two options.

1) Ubiquiti Unifi

Please check out the Unifi thread. I am not an expert.

Thread 'New Ubiquiti setup! Still a work in progress.' https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/new-ubiquiti-setup-still-a-work-in-progress.5680023/

2) Netgear Orbi. Netgear Singapore offers free online consultation and paid on-site installation service.

https://netgearstore.sg/pages/installation-support

Take note I do not recommend Asus AImesh, TP-Link Deco Mesh and TP-Link EasyMesh in this case.

Got any more budget friendly recommendation instead?

 

[SnapperJR]

Update Post #5 on China WiFi 7 routers (no 6GHz band) to mention the following.

Other than Asus China WiFi 7 routers, it is a bit difficult to recommend China WiFi 7 routers now, at least not for the mid-range ones, since TP-Link HB710 (dumped by Starhub users, S$192 or lower) and Archer BE805 (dumped by M1 users, below S$300) local versions with 10G ports and 6GHz band can be pretty cost effective.

Hi mate - my floor plan is pretty much similar to the other user above. My living room has both the ONT, modem and main router and typically my master bedroom has very poor wifi coverage (usually only 2.4ghz reaches, 5ghz extremely spotty).

My master bedroom does have a LAN connection wired up to the router - so I previously used ASUS routers and plugged in a 2nd router at the master and used Asus AImesh quite effectively. But then most ISPs switched to TP-link and Easymesh is terrible and doesn't work well or at all most of the time.

Time to recontract - have been considering either BE805 or HB710.

Do you think I should use BE805 as the main router in the living room and hope the signal reaches the master? If it doesn't cover well, not sure if I can try Easymesh with a HB710 plugged into the master. I heard they are getting better with meshing newer devices.

Or is my best bet just to get two HB710s one for the living room and master?

Thanks!

 

[Nakedtoes]

Hi mate - my floor plan is pretty much similar to the other user above. My living room has both the ONT, modem and main router and typically my master bedroom has very poor wifi coverage (usually only 2.4ghz reaches, 5ghz extremely spotty).

My master bedroom does have a LAN connection wired up to the router - so I previously used ASUS routers and plugged in a 2nd router at the master and used Asus AImesh quite effectively. But then most ISPs switched to TP-link and Easymesh is terrible and doesn't work well or at all most of the time.

Time to recontract - have been considering either BE805 or HB710.

Do you think I should use BE805 as the main router in the living room and hope the signal reaches the master? If it doesn't cover well, not sure if I can try Easymesh with a HB710 plugged into the master. I heard they are getting better with meshing newer devices.

Or is my best bet just to get two HB710s one for the living room and master?

Thanks!

For yr case top up to get the bt10.. One put at living room, one put at yr Mbr.

 

[xiaofan]

Hi mate - my floor plan is pretty much similar to the other user above. My living room has both the ONT, modem and main router and typically my master bedroom has very poor wifi coverage (usually only 2.4ghz reaches, 5ghz extremely spotty).

My master bedroom does have a LAN connection wired up to the router - so I previously used ASUS routers and plugged in a 2nd router at the master and used Asus AImesh quite effectively. But then most ISPs switched to TP-link and Easymesh is terrible and doesn't work well or at all most of the time.

Time to recontract - have been considering either BE805 or HB710.

Do you think I should use BE805 as the main router in the living room and hope the signal reaches the master? If it doesn't cover well, not sure if I can try Easymesh with a HB710 plugged into the master. I heard they are getting better with meshing newer devices.

Or is my best bet just to get two HB710s one for the living room and master?

Thanks!

Please post the floor plan, with details like the location of the ONT and LAN ports in the rooms.

Which ISP do you prefer? If you are talking about M1, then it makes sense to go with M1 6Gbps plan and top up S$12 per month for a pair of ZenWiFi BT12.

 

[SnapperJR]

Please post the floor plan, with details like the location of the ONT and LAN ports in the rooms.

Which ISP do you prefer? If you are talking about M1, then it makes sense to go with M1 6Gbps plan and top up S$12 per month for a pair of ZenWiFi BT12.

considering recon to myrepublic but looking at other ISPs as well

on myr the only real options are BE805, or ASUS GT-BE25000 (+199 topup) on the gamer option or HB710 on normal

 

[xiaofan]

considering recon to myrepublic but looking at other ISPs as well

on myr the only real options are BE805, or ASUS GT-BE25000 (+199 topup) on the gamer option or HB710 on normal

I think your plan should work.

Since you can use Ethernet backhaul, HB710 + HB710 can be a cheap option. It has only two 10G ports so you may need a 10G/2.5G switch if you need to use wired devices in other rooms.

Archer BE805 + HB710 will be a better option.

If you are willing to pay for the MR Gamer Plan, Asus GT-BE25000 is very much worth the S$199 top-up on top of Archer BE805. You can use ZenWiFi BT10 or Asus RT-BE92U as the mesh node.

On the other hand, M1 6Gbps is probably a much cheaper option for you with the M1 shop 6Gbps offer at S$35.90 per month (switching to M1 offer), you can then top up S$12 per month to get two Asus ZenWiFi BT10. This will be a much better option in terms of mesh compared to HB710 x 2 or even Archer BE805+HB710.

As of now, TP-Link EasyMesh cannot compare with Asus AImesh or TP-Link's own Deco Mesh in terms of mesh performance (seamless roaming) and there are quite some limitations.

TP-Link EasyMesh FAQ:
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3529/

 

[xiaofan]

For those who want to use TP-Link Easymesh, you may want to read the following FAQ to knows its limiations. As of now, it is not as good as TP-Link's Deco Mesh. Take note it is not compatible with Deco mesh either.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3529/

Dongknows' review of TP-Link EasyMesh: it has made quite a bit of progress from 2023 to 2025, but still not good in terms of seaming roaming performance. Using wireless backhaul may also cause performance issues.

https://dongknows.com/tp-link-easymesh-wi-fi-system-review/

Pros​

Lots of hardware options
Relatively easy to set up and use
Flexible wireless and wired backhaul (with applicable hardware)
Responsive web interface with optional Tether mobile app

Cons​

Minimum control of the satellite; no wired backhauling for extenders with a network port
Wireless backhaul can be complicated, no MLO with Wi-Fi 7, no virtual SSDs (Guest Wi-Fi, IoT, etc.) at the satellite
Seamless hand-off reliability could be better

 

[SnapperJR]

I think your plan should work.

Since you can use Ethernet backhaul, HB710 + HB710 can be a cheap option. It has only two 10G ports so you may need a 10G/2.5G switch if you need to use wired devices in other rooms.

Archer BE805 + HB710 will be a better option.

If you are willing to pay for the MR Gamer Plan, Asus GT-BE25000 is very much worth the S$199 top-up on top of Archer BE805. You can use ZenWiFi BT10 or Asus RT-BE92U as the mesh node.

On the other hand, M1 6Gbps is probably a much cheaper option for you with the M1 shop 6Gbps offer at S$35.90 per month (switching to M1 offer), you can then top up S$12 per month to get two Asus ZenWiFi BT10. This will be a much better option in terms of mesh compared to HB710 x 2 or even Archer BE805+HB710.

As of now, TP-Link EasyMesh cannot compare with Asus AImesh or TP-Link's own Deco Mesh in terms of mesh performance (seamless roaming) and there are quite some limitations.

TP-Link EasyMesh FAQ:
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3529/

Thanks for your detailed reply. Really appreciate it and agree with your points on EasyMesh. It was amazing to find out how crap it was and that TP-Link was doing very little about it.

I checked M1 website (unless you have some specific promo code option?) - the 6gbps option topup with 2x BT10 comes to 48.90 a month but the 10gbps option with 2xBT10 (no topup) comes to 50.90 a month

I mean realistically very unlikely that I will be using all the 6gbps anytime in the near future - but for an additional $2 per month seems almost no-brainer (total 24 month outlay 10gbps S$1221.6)

I guess that's my option for M1.

For Myrepublic there's a recontract promo code that I'd have to (a) pay 66.99 per month (2 free months) + 199 for Asus GT-BE25000 + another router I'd have to buy for the bedroom - (total 24 month outlay 10gbps S$1,672.78+2nd router) - or 66.99 per month (2 free mths) and get a BE805(free) + HB710 (150-180 on carousell) (total 24 mth outlay - still about S$1,653.78)


Both are options that are ok with me but of course spending 450(or more) less is attractive. Myrepublic has been good for me past 10+ years generally but last 1-2 years their frequent announced and urgent maintenance has been quite irritating as I work at night also. Is M1 any better for internet generally, customer service?

I do have an existing TP-link axe300 but its been very disappointing really and its not wifi7 and I doubt it will EasyMesh well with BE850



was looking at at viewqwest as well - don't seem to have great offers either

 

[gunners89]

Hi @xiaofan and the rest of the contributors. I've been scouring through your threads and contributions the past few nights, and I'd like to say thanks for all the research and explanation! Helped me a lot!

Been cracking my head to find the best value to replace my aging mesh system at home. (3 nodes)
Currently on Singtel and thinking of changing to M1 3gbps plan w BE230. Most value for money option at the moment, all things considered based on usage and device hardware.

Wired backhaul using easymesh ethernet backhaul
ONT-->(2.5G WAN port) BE230 (2.5G LAN port)-->2.5G switch--> (2.5G LAN port) BE230 x 2 units

Main node located in central location in home
Satellite node placed in opposite end of the house. Visualise a triangle shape.

Would you have any other recommendations in terms of hardware etc? If be230 is low cost option, what would be a mid-cost option?

Thanks.

 

[hellvolhardzelinsky]

M1 offering me to recontract to 6 Gbps plan and can choose either TP-Link BE805 or Asus RT-BE92U. I'm upgrading for current 1 Gbps plan.

Currently I have a RT-AX55 as my main router and RT-AX3000P connected via AIMesh in another room. Because my masterbed room always poor wifi. Living in a small 4-room HDB. The AiMesh is connected using Lan Cable.

Which router should I choose?

 

[xiaofan]

Hi @xiaofan and the rest of the contributors. I've been scouring through your threads and contributions the past few nights, and I'd like to say thanks for all the research and explanation! Helped me a lot!

Been cracking my head to find the best value to replace my aging mesh system at home. (3 nodes)
Currently on Singtel and thinking of changing to M1 3gbps plan w BE230. Most value for money option at the moment, all things considered based on usage and device hardware.

Wired backhaul using easymesh ethernet backhaul
ONT-->(2.5G WAN port) BE230 (2.5G LAN port)-->2.5G switch--> (2.5G LAN port) BE230 x 2 units

Main node located in central location in home
Satellite node placed in opposite end of the house. Visualise a triangle shape.

Would you have any other recommendations in terms of hardware etc? If be230 is low cost option, what would be a mid-cost option?

Thanks.

Archer BE230 is one of the lowest cost options out there and I will say it is a low end offering (dual band BE3600, dual 2.5G ports) just nice for 3Gbps plan.

Higher cost options depend on your budget, for example: from low end to mid-range.
TP-LinK Archer BE230 (low end) --> Archer BE400 (low end) --> Archer BE550 (mid-range) -> Archer BE550 Pro --> Archer BE805 (about S$300, dumped by M1 users, free with M1 6Gbps).
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/wifi-router/?filterby=6271

 

[xiaofan]

M1 offering me to recontract to 6 Gbps plan and can choose either TP-Link BE805 or Asus RT-BE92U. I'm upgrading for current 1 Gbps plan.

Currently I have a RT-AX55 as my main router and RT-AX3000P connected via AIMesh in another room. Because my masterbed room always poor wifi. Living in a small 4-room HDB. The AiMesh is connected using Lan Cable.

Which router should I choose?

Since you are using Asus AImesh with Ethernet Backhaul, then you can consider RT-BE92U, even though I like Archer BE805 better if the use case is a single router.

Archer BE805 beats RT-BE92U in terms of HW spec and wireless spec.

Still personally I will recommend to top-up for two ZenWiFi BT10 and retire the RT-AX55 and RT-AX3000P (super low end Asus WiFi 6 router).

 

[hellvolhardzelinsky]

Since you are using Asus AImesh with Ethernet Backhaul, then you can consider RT-BE92U, even though I like Archer BE805 better if the use case is a single router.

Archer BE805 beats RT-BE92U in terms of HW spec and wireless spec.

Still personally I will recommend to top-up for two ZenWiFi BT10 and retire the RT-AX55 and RT-AX3000P (super low end Asus WiFi 6 router).

hmm what if I retire both my asus router and get BE805 as a single router? Just that I'm not sure if it can cover until my bedroom. My house is only 93 sqm, so I don't know why I have trouble receiving wifi in my bedroom.

cause I'm thinking even if I get BT-RE92U, my bedroom wifi will still be coming from the older router. In the end there's not really any upgrade.

If BE805 can work by itself then great, if not I might consider topping up for BT10. Just not sure how much increase in speed and coverage I will get compared to BE805.

 

[eBuddy]

Tempted to replace my TP-Link BE230 from M1 with Huawei X1 Pro for better wireless coverage. Wonder is it compatible? Thanks

 

[Able]

I'm looking to upgrade my older notebooks with the Intel BE200 Wi-Fi 7 module, but I've run into a compatibility issue. The BE200 uses an E-key, while my notebooks have A-key M.2 slots.

Has anyone here tried a workaround or adapter solution to get around this? I’d love to hear your experience or suggestions.

 

[xiaofan]

Tempted to replace my TP-Link BE230 from M1 with Huawei X1 Pro for better wireless coverage. Wonder is it compatible? Thanks

It is compatible. M1 is using ONT (other than the new 10Gbps ONR plan) and it does not need any special VLAN settings. So you are free to use your own router (of course not those Singtel issued customized router with built-in Singtel VLAN which can not be disabled).

 

[xiaofan]

hmm what if I retire both my asus router and get BE805 as a single router? Just that I'm not sure if it can cover until my bedroom. My house is only 93 sqm, so I don't know why I have trouble receiving wifi in my bedroom.

cause I'm thinking even if I get BT-RE92U, my bedroom wifi will still be coming from the older router. In the end there's not really any upgrade.

If BE805 can work by itself then great, if not I might consider topping up for BT10. Just not sure how much increase in speed and coverage I will get compared to BE805.

You may have to post the floor plan, with details of the location of the ONT, LAN ports in the rooms if any, and the planned placement location of the Archer BE805 if you opt for single router.

It all depends on the floor plan and placement.

Some floor plans make it nearly impossible to cover the full flat with decent WiFi performance.

 

[Jun Jun]

Tplink be800 and be805 users do u know what flow controller rx and tx in lan and in internet does? Should i enable or disable it?

 

[Jun Jun]

I'm looking to upgrade my older notebooks with the Intel BE200 Wi-Fi 7 module, but I've run into a compatibility issue. The BE200 uses an E-key, while my notebooks have A-key M.2 slots.

Has anyone here tried a workaround or adapter solution to get around this? I’d love to hear your experience or suggestions.

Are u able to find a key be cards?