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If u dun mind me askif. What size are u trading?

What's a comfy amount

im trading 0.04 lots max for a $120 account with 0.01lot worth of margin for tanking drawdown, specifically for audusd pair, since the margin for this pair is much lesser relative to spreads paid.

so for me I'm doing an acceptable amount of leverage but small dollar amount, the idea is ill invest 5% of actual account size inside forex for margin trading while keeping the 95% inside 1 year treasury bills backed by government or maybe 1month or 6 month kind and those kind of safe investment, coz i can't lose more than the amount i put inside the forex account.

so the treasury bill is sort of locked out of my reach, so even if i lose all my money in my forex account, i sort of have a time window to cool out and then revise again, and just put the interest from the treasury bill back into the forex account and start again while putting the original 95% back into treasury bill.

so for me because of my money management strategy, i will pyramid and buy more if my current trade shows quite good profits. so like I'm 20pips in profit, price pull back 5pips, and shows it might be going to restart the trend, ill buy additional 0.02 lot more, on top of my original 0.02 lot initial entry. so this sort of scales the reward and risk to make it easily 4-5 : 1 risk reward, because of the pyramiding.

e.g. the elliot wave theory, i bought 0.02lots at the bottom of the impulse wave leg 1, price corrects and the wave is leg 2, then when i see that there is a good chance leg 3 can form, i buy 0.02 lots more, though i kind of did a study if u pyramid too hard and too fast there will be too much risk, u can pyramid in this pattern, 1,2,1,1,1,1,1,... with the numbers as multipliers, like 1 unit for me is 0.02 lot, so i would buy 0.02 then as it retrace and i see another impulse wave forming, i buy additional 0.04, then it retrace, and looks like another impulse wave coming in, i buy 0.02, and this way i kind of can skew my average position size sort weighted below the average market price, so as the markets go up, my average price position as i add on will lag behind the markets which is what i want, so its a balance between size and average position price.

however, for me i can only afford 0.04lots max, so i do a variation either 1,1, which is 0.02 lot and if it retraces for me i add 0.02. if I'm not really sure, i do 0.01,0.02,0.01, which is 0.04 lots. so if u have more margin, u can do many variations of it. also the way to attack a trend can vary with ur money management too. like if u want to trade each swing individually, u can do 0.01 buy on the initial impulse wave, then u spot a retrace might be forming, u take profit, then u short 0.01 against the trend to scalp the retrace, so that even if u were wrong on the retrace, u are sort of picking the top, the original 0.01 trade with the impulse should more than pay for ur loss on the retrace and still have some left. then on the impulse restarting, u can enter 0.02, and step it up, since u have profits from today to help u soak some losses if the 0.02 lot turns out to be wrong. u may end the day flat, or end the day with small loss, or end the day with small profit, but if it goes ur way, u should be able to get a lot of profits, as compared to the original type of money management, coz say the original money management u are to risk 0.10 lots, but this one, u scale in so u split into 0.02,0.04,0.02,0.02, so u end up with initial risk of 0.02 lots rather than 0.1 lot. but it takes a lot of practise to get the scaling right, so it depends which one u are more comfortable with.

both the money management i use and the original money management got upside and down side, is just see what time frame u trading, how much time u can commit coz of other commitments to manage the trade, and ur risk level. if u are trend following, the original money management is better, because u want to ride it as long as possible. but if u are trading intra-day this method can afford u more flexibility to sort of minimise ur value at risk and ur profits as to what kind of day are u trading, like a range sort of day, or a strongly trending sort of day. a range sort of day i don't pyramid, i just do the 0.01 and scalp here and there, but if trend i pyramid on.
 
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im trading 0.04 lots max for a $120 account with 0.01lot worth of margin for tanking drawdown, specifically for audusd pair, since the margin for this pair is much lesser relative to spreads paid.

so for me I'm doing an acceptable amount of leverage but small dollar amount, the idea is ill invest 5% of actual account size inside forex for margin trading while keeping the 95% inside 1 year treasury bills backed by government or maybe 1month or 6 month kind and those kind of safe investment, coz i can't lose more than the amount i put inside the forex account.

so the treasury bill is sort of locked out of my reach, so even if i lose all my money in my forex account, i sort of have a time window to cool out and then revise again, and just put the interest from the treasury bill back into the forex account and start again while putting the original 95% back into treasury bill.

so for me because of my money management strategy, i will pyramid and buy more if my current trade shows quite good profits. so like I'm 20pips in profit, price pull back 5pips, and shows it might be going to restart the trend, ill buy additional 0.02 lot more, on top of my original 0.02 lot initial entry. so this sort of scales the reward and risk to make it easily 4-5 : 1 risk reward, because of the pyramiding.

e.g. the elliot wave theory, i bought 0.02lots at the bottom of the impulse wave leg 1, price corrects and the wave is leg 2, then when i see that there is a good chance leg 3 can form, i buy 0.02 lots more, though i kind of did a study if u pyramid too hard and too fast there will be too much risk, u can pyramid in this pattern, 1,2,1,1,1,1,1,... with the numbers as multipliers, like 1 unit for me is 0.02 lot, so i would buy 0.02 then as it retrace and i see another impulse wave forming, i buy additional 0.04, then it retrace, and looks like another impulse wave coming in, i buy 0.02, and this way i kind of can skew my average position size sort weighted below the average market price, so as the markets go up, my average price position as i add on will lag behind the markets which is what i want, so its a balance between size and average position price.

however, for me i can only afford 0.04lots max, so i do a variation either 1,1, which is 0.02 lot and if it retraces for me i add 0.02. if I'm not really sure, i do 0.01,0.02,0.01, which is 0.04 lots. so if u have more margin, u can do many variations of it. also the way to attack a trend can vary with ur money management too. like if u want to trade each swing individually, u can do 0.01 buy on the initial impulse wave, then u spot a retrace might be forming, u take profit, then u short 0.01 against the trend to scalp the retrace, so that even if u were wrong on the retrace, u are sort of picking the top, the original 0.01 trade with the impulse should more than pay for ur loss on the retrace and still have some left. then on the impulse restarting, u can enter 0.02, and step it up, since u have profits from today to help u soak some losses if the 0.02 lot turns out to be wrong. u may end the day flat, or end the day with small loss, or end the day with small profit, but if it goes ur way, u should be able to get a lot of profits, as compared to the original type of money management, coz say the original money management u are to risk 0.10 lots, but this one, u scale in so u split into 0.02,0.04,0.02,0.02, so u end up with initial risk of 0.02 lots rather than 0.1 lot. but it takes a lot of practise to get the scaling right, so it depends which one u are more comfortable with.

both the money management i use and the original money management got upside and down side, is just see what time frame u trading, how much time u can commit coz of other commitments to manage the trade, and ur risk level. if u are trend following, the original money management is better, because u want to ride it as long as possible. but if u are trading intra-day this method can afford u more flexibility to sort of minimise ur value at risk and ur profits as to what kind of day are u trading, like a range sort of day, or a strongly trending sort of day. a range sort of day i don't pyramid, i just do the 0.01 and scalp here and there, but if trend i pyramid on.

Hi CookieMonsta88, just wondering what leverages are you trading upon? Because 0.01 lot seems abit huge if you have a huge SL in place for your current account size. Do take note of the position sizing :)
 

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Hi CookieMonsta88, just wondering what leverages are you trading upon? Because 0.01 lot seems abit huge if you have a huge SL in place for your current account size. Do take note of the position sizing :)

hi, feiyun, I'm doing 50:1 leverage. well, i don't have a fixed SL actually, coz how i set my stop loss is by how the trade manifest. for example if there is an impulse wave up, and the markets retrace, and then looks like its forming a 2nd impulse wave, i buy the after the end of the retrace and very near the turning point of the 2nd impulse wave, so that in most conditions allows me to have 5-6 pip mental stoploss. so for 0.01 lot, i lose about 60-70 cents.
so i kind of time my trades and fade these turning points to get very tight mental stop losses.

so the sizing is kind of customised to the volatility of the pair as well as how tight a mental stop loss i can make it, and by nature of how i trade, since I'm fading retraces, instead of buying breakouts, my stop loss is quite tight.
 

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I prefer higher leverage. 1:500 is fine and use $500 for every 0.01 like I mention before.
 

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hi, feiyun, I'm doing 50:1 leverage. well, i don't have a fixed SL actually, coz how i set my stop loss is by how the trade manifest. for example if there is an impulse wave up, and the markets retrace, and then looks like its forming a 2nd impulse wave, i buy the after the end of the retrace and very near the turning point of the 2nd impulse wave, so that in most conditions allows me to have 5-6 pip mental stoploss. so for 0.01 lot, i lose about 60-70 cents.
so i kind of time my trades and fade these turning points to get very tight mental stop losses.

so the sizing is kind of customised to the volatility of the pair as well as how tight a mental stop loss i can make it, and by nature of how i trade, since I'm fading retraces, instead of buying breakouts, my stop loss is quite tight.

A good guide is to know the SL level based on ur trade setup, then calculate the
Pips from EP to SL and then the contract size to enter so that when it hit ur SL, at most 2-3% of ur capital is lost.
Many traders use 1-3%
I used to follow 3% but I got greedy and increased.. Profits rose but eventually lost huge chunk.

3% is recommended by many...
 

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A good guide is to know the SL level based on ur trade setup, then calculate the
Pips from EP to SL and then the contract size to enter so that when it hit ur SL, at most 2-3% of ur capital is lost.
Many traders use 1-3%
I used to follow 3% but I got greedy and increased.. Profits rose but eventually lost huge chunk.

3% is recommended by many...

Normally I use 1%

Something like this Accurate Price action forex signals by Horlique2
 

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A good guide is to know the SL level based on ur trade setup, then calculate the
Pips from EP to SL and then the contract size to enter so that when it hit ur SL, at most 2-3% of ur capital is lost.
Many traders use 1-3%
I used to follow 3% but I got greedy and increased.. Profits rose but eventually lost huge chunk.

3% is recommended by many...

hmm, well i use the scaling method, so i divide my ammo of 0.04 into 0.01 per entry. so since thats the case i need to account for if i enter 0.01 extra lot and then it moves against me, then my exposure gets to 0.02, and the book enter losses faster. so thats why i cut my risk level to 1% or less, to the initial entry, then scale more into the trade as it shows more profits.

so in this case the conventional contract sizing method can't work for the scaling method and will overexpose the book if it is used, since the risk level may get exposed to maybe 6% instead of the original 3% for this scaling method.

well, money management is tied to the operating method used, so, kind of need to profile for the risk which the book is exposed to with respect to the method itself from the start of the trade till the end of the trade, including any additional corrective actions on the trade itself, like maybe if u don't like stoploss, but prefer puts or calls to ride through news.
 
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Up there bro! I can only wait patiently for candle to close before I make my move. Gotta stick close to my strategy.

Normally I dun really post my trade but this is how to take 60 pips on a slow Monday. The entry is not pin point accurate but the idea is there for day swing trade.

ry%3D480
 

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Normally I dun really post my trade but this is how to take 60 pips on a slow Monday. The entry is not pin point accurate but the idea is there for day swing trade.

ry%3D480

great sharing! thanks dude.

for the past week, i have been staring at 10s, 1m, 10m chart for scalping....
though it is not my usual style, ive been trying to improve my skills in recognising patterns and candlesticks.

hate it coz my golden time is burnt.. but love the fact that i am recognising the pattern faster than before..

Guess what they said is true-
Practise Practise Practise!
 

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great sharing! thanks dude.

for the past week, i have been staring at 10s, 1m, 10m chart for scalping....
though it is not my usual style, ive been trying to improve my skills in recognising patterns and candlesticks.

hate it coz my golden time is burnt.. but love the fact that i am recognising the pattern faster than before..

Guess what they said is true-
Practise Practise Practise!

You see my result very song leh but you forgot how much sweat I went through to achieve this. I paid tuition fees and I sayang the chart everyday so that Audjpy can talk to me.

But newbie please dun try the yen pairs. 60 pips against you on a Monday is no joke on a Friday. You get the direction wrong means you kena whip jialat jialat. Practise Practise Practise the majors till you are familar before venturing the more volatile (esp gbpjpy) yen pairs.
 

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Normally I dun really post my trade but this is how to take 60 pips on a slow Monday. The entry is not pin point accurate but the idea is there for day swing trade.

ry%3D480

So bro, from this trade you are doing counter trend trade? From what I see, AudJpy is currently climbing into downtrend.
 

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So bro, from this trade you are doing counter trend trade? From what I see, AudJpy is currently climbing into downtrend.

Like I said I do trend, counter trend as well as retracement. You do swing so you catch swing high and swing low right? If not what you swing? If you do just trend (if there is one) then you gonna wait for the perfect set-up?

Oh nobody sell Aussie. All wait to buy cause of the carry trade.

And who cares if you are on the right trend? As long as I make money who gives a damm if it is the wrong answer.

Your so call gbpjpy downtrend just swing up 50 pips you not catching? So what if you are right? You make money? That is the bottom line.
 
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Taking the swing low now to catch max profits? Hahahaha exciting life of a trader right? Every 6 months must go check up to see if heart is ok.
 

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Like I said I do trend, counter trend as well as retracement. You do swing so you catch swing high and swing low right? If not what you swing? If you do just trend (if there is one) then you gonna wait for the perfect set-up?

Oh nobody sell Aussie. All wait to buy cause of the carry trade.

And who cares if you are on the right trend? As long as I make money who gives a damm if it is the wrong answer.

Your so call gbpjpy downtrend just swing up 50 pips you not catching? So what if you are right? You make money? That is the bottom line.

Making money is definitely the most important part of trading. So you plot a channel to catch the swing low and swing high? Or u enter based on a reversal at a r/s zone? :)
 

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Taking the swing low now to catch max profits? Hahahaha exciting life of a trader right? Every 6 months must go check up to see if heart is ok.

I thought this is like a routine life of a trader, nothing exciting. Same old stuffs, wash and repeat lol.
 

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Making money is definitely the most important part of trading. So you plot a channel to catch the swing low and swing high? Or u enter based on a reversal at a r/s zone? :)

I base on a lot of things. Channels is good with other indicators. Price can move sideways from the top of the channel to the bottom of the channel and shoot up. You often see Kiwi doing that on a uptrend then how?

Bank only trade one way so this is the best tip I can give you. And London session there is a chance of reversal. The rest is up to you. I won't talk much about it now.
 
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