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What BP medicine are you taking?

Some BP meds like not so effective in bringing down the BP?
 

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water is essential
Sodium is non essential

humans can survive without food for weeks, but cannot survive without water for few days.

not sure about potassium, as i don't jiak salmon, avocado, banana, milk etc.
will experiment potassium vs bp when free. :)
Erm....Sodium is an essential nutrient.
 

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Erm....Sodium is an essential nutrient.
sigh, what i mean was reduce sodium intake. is not like u can remove the sodium from the processed food.
every nutrient is important but not until cannot survive without it.
Just like no potassium, just hair loss etc.
The human body requires a small amount of sodium to conduct nerve impulses, contract and relax muscles, and maintain the proper balance of water and minerals. It is estimated that we need about 500 mg of sodium daily for these vital functions.

what potassium food u eating?
except salmon, bananas, milk, avocado
 
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Anybody currently on high blood pressure medication? Feel free to share here. My personal history

My height and weight is normal. 170 and 55kg

diagnosed with HBP about 6 months back. Been on medication since and about a month back additional medication was added as my bp hit 188/126 while I was working. Company doctor send me to A&E immediately after a couple of hours observation discharged from hospital.

I do not drink coffee at all since teenage days

Mind to share your age?

If your company provides ok medical cover, go for a med check that includes Ultrasound Carotid Scan (neck ultrasound to see whether any clot). This test market price is about SGD300.
 

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Mind to share your age?

If your company provides ok medical cover, go for a med check that includes Ultrasound Carotid Scan (neck ultrasound to see whether any clot). This test market price is about SGD300.

Early 30s
Can I request this with the specialist visit at NTFGH?

company cover first $2000 specialist visits for a year
 

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sigh, what i mean was reduce sodium intake. is not like u can remove the sodium from the processed food.
every nutrient is important but not until cannot survive without it.
Just like no potassium, just hair loss etc.


what potassium food u eating?
except salmon, bananas, milk, avocado
essential means cannot survive without wad....sodium IS an essential nutrient.
i think the point that many ppl are missing is how long does the increased BP last after a salty meal.

what i was trying to point out is that by drinking lots of water, your BP will increase dramatically over the next 30mins, before slowly coming down as your kidneys filter out the excess water in your blood to bring your BP back to baseline.

similarly your BP will also rise after a salty meal, and if it is too much salt, your kidneys will eject the excess salt along with the water you drank(coz eat salty make u thirsty) in order to bring your BP back to baseline.

the impt question here is, does your BP stay elevated after taking the salt or does it settle back to normal after your kidneys do it's job. cuz everytime we go hospital or doctor take BP, it is just a snapshot of that instant and is not accurate like a 24hr BP monitor.


i take alot of dairy products like cheese and cream, lesser milk cuz of the lactose.
 

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essential means cannot survive without wad....sodium IS an essential nutrient.
i think the point that many ppl are missing is how long does the increased BP last after a salty meal.

what i was trying to point out is that by drinking lots of water, your BP will increase dramatically over the next 30mins, before slowly coming down as your kidneys filter out the excess water in your blood to bring your BP back to baseline.

similarly your BP will also rise after a salty meal, and if it is too much salt, your kidneys will eject the excess salt along with the water you drank(coz eat salty make u thirsty) in order to bring your BP back to baseline.

the impt question here is, does your BP stay elevated after taking the salt or does it settle back to normal after your kidneys do it's job. cuz everytime we go hospital or doctor take BP, it is just a snapshot of that instant and is not accurate like a 24hr BP monitor.


i take alot of dairy products like cheese and cream, lesser milk cuz of the lactose.
without sodium, u won't die..... just malnutrition. and i said reduce in sodium intake, not don't take....
i already tell u morning take blood pressure with empty stomach....u still persist on after meal... water. etc
if u dun drink enough water daily, u will damage your organs.... this kind of thing cannot play play 1.

each body is diff, u can't assume everyone kidney can purge out all the excess salt.

why i so convinced with the sodium relationship because i never hit 120 b4. signing off. :)

There is also increasing evidence that a high salt intake may increase deterioration of kidney disease in people already suffering from kidney problems.
 

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Anybody currently on high blood pressure medication? Feel free to share here. My personal history

My height and weight is normal. 170 and 55kg

diagnosed with HBP about 6 months back. Been on medication since and about a month back additional medication was added as my bp hit 188/126 while I was working. Company doctor send me to A&E immediately after a couple of hours observation discharged from hospital.

I do not drink coffee at all since teenage days
If with HB medication still doesn’t come under control, do check for cholesterol…

I was warded twice for uncontrolled HB and finally tested high cholesterol and taking medication to mitigate and all else is fine now…

You need to change your diets…

Mine was eating too much carbohydrates n didn’t eat meat nor fat but led to fatty liver etc

I have since cut down on yellow noodles n minimal rice to cut carbohydrates… taking more veggies n fruits especially salad




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without sodium, u won't die..... just malnutrition. and i said reduce in sodium intake, not don't take....
i already tell u morning take blood pressure with empty stomach....u still persist on after meal... water. etc
if u dun drink enough water daily, u will damage your organs.... this kind of thing cannot play play 1.

each body is diff, u can't assume everyone kidney can purge out all the excess salt.

why i so convinced with the sodium relationship because i never hit 120 b4. signing off. :)
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-dangers-of-sodium-restriction#:~:text=One study found that less,guidelines currently recommend ( 15 ).

linked before earlier....will link here again.
have a good read on the dangers of blindly over-restricting sodium without considering potassium.
 
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If with HB medication still doesn’t come under control, do check for cholesterol…

I was warded twice for uncontrolled HB and finally tested high cholesterol and taking medication to mitigate and all else is fine now…

You need to change your diets…

Mine was eating too much carbohydrates n didn’t eat meat nor fat but led to fatty liver etc

I have since cut down on yellow noodles n minimal rice to cut carbohydrates… taking more veggies n fruits especially salad




Hawker stall Cai png


Chey after all the extreme vegetables juicing and dieting, you are taking medicines after all.

I thought you are not taking medicines.

Let's put it this way.

1 group are taking cholesterol medicines + enjoying their loose dieting. See people like @DigDub

Another group is taking cholesterol medicines + extreme dieting.

Both groups are showing significant reduction in cholesterol and BP numbers because the medicines are proven effective.

Which one do you think is living a more fulfilling life ? I rather pick the former man.

For me, I am not on any medications yet as I can manage through lifestyle and diet.

If I cannot manage and need to resort to meds, I will yolo a little more on the diet.
 

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Early 30s
Can I request this with the specialist visit at NTFGH?

company cover first $2000 specialist visits for a year

Early 30s probably don't need for this Ultrasound Carotid yet (unless you also having high cholesterol) as this scan maybe more useful for those at least in their mid 40s. But if you have some 'excess' medical claim amount, you may discuss with your doc the necessity of it (to build a 'baseline' for the current health of your carotid artery for comparison years later).

I first came to know about this scan when a friend in her late 50s (with high cholesterol and high BP under med for a few years) went for her med check up and her doc advised her to get the scan (when she complained about some numbness in her left hand when she wakes up in the morning). The scan showed her carotid artery is mildly clotted (not serious yet) and adjusted some of her med dosage + advised her to be watchful.

Then recently my daughter's close friend, late 20s, with no medical condition of the 3 highs, experienced weakness in limbs and blur vision. Her family rushed her to A&E and straight away confirmed as a stroke patient. The Ultrasound Carotid scan showed her carotid artery was more than 50% clot. She was hospitalised for a few days and given blood thinning treatment before being discharged with a big bag of blood thinning medicine for 3 months and a review date. The friend (a high flyer) believes her case is due to work stress (since she high income, exercises regularly and eats healthily with no family history of stroke). This is a 'lucky' case as she was rushed to the hospital to treat the blood clot in time.



Source:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/carotid-ultrasound/about/pac-20393399#dialogId66567473
 

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https://www.synapxe.sg/healthtech/telehealth/ptec-home-blood-pressure-monitoring-programme

It cost me $6.30 per year for this plan. Too exp, I decided to stop after the 1st year.

Thanks for sharing!

Will pass to my BBFA brother to see whether he is keen or not (he is someone who is not so 'independent' and this maybe a useful way to 'nag' at him to measure his BP regularly instead of me nagging. He is currently on high BP and high cholesterol med at late 50s).
 

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similarly your BP will also rise after a salty meal, and if it is too much salt, your kidneys will eject the excess salt along with the water you drank(coz eat salty make u thirsty) in order to bring your BP back to baseline.


I think the point of contention here is excess salt may overwork the kidneys over the longer term and then 'damage' them sooner than necessary.

The same for alcohol. The liver can process alcohol but then when too much, the liver will fail to process it efficiently then may lead to fatty liver, liver hardening, liver cancer, etc.
 
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