jogging and motivation thread

[Jeremy1]

you need transport to any of these locations. if you are first time and do not have local guide, don't be too adventurous

I can take a train and walk there ?

If worse comes to worse, I will joined the local tour there.

 

[Tudo88]

14km easy yesterday. Appreciating the cushion on NB5 after back to back hard days(Intervals&Threshold).

 

[xllms]

I can take a train and walk there ?

If worse comes to worse, I will joined the local tour there.

Did a quick check on 百度地图, Badaling & Jiankou can take subway+bus. I have never tried that before, not sure if it is convenient.

 

[xllms]

14km easy yesterday. Appreciating the cushion on NB5 after back to back hard days(Intervals&Threshold).

envious HR for the pace

 

[Jeremy1]

Did a quick check on 百度地图, Badaling & Jiankou can take subway+bus. I have never tried that before, not sure if it is convenient.

Quite easy but I only afraid need to climb steep slope otw

Have you been to the Great Wall before ?

 

[WussRedXLi]

I am going all by myself.

I think I better buy insurance

most ppl go to 八达岭 but will be super packed with ppl, another option is 慕田峪, 2nd most popular. These 2 are popular cos they are nearest to BJ city. Another option is 箭扣, probably 3rd nearest.
金山岭 & 司马台 are way up northeast at the border or just outside BJ boundaries, car ride without traffic jam from 国贸 is slightly more than 2hrs.

How are you traveling? Dedicated local guide for small group or tour guide or Free & Easy?

List of Great Wall locations. Do note not all are within Beijing boundaries.
1) 八达岭长城‌ BaDaLing：位于北京延庆区，是明长城中保存最完好、开放最早的一段，被称为“天下九塞之一”，现为国家5A级景区，设施完善且文化内涵深厚。‌‌1‌‌

‌2) 慕田峪长城‌ MuTianYu：位于北京怀柔区，风景秀丽、敌楼密集，以修缮与自然融合的古朴氛围著称，游客相对较少。‌‌‌‌

‌3) 金山岭长城‌ JinShanLing：位于河北滦平县，由戚继光主持修建，敌楼密度极高且构造精美，是明代长城建筑的代表。‌‌‌‌

‌4) 箭扣长城‌ JianKou：位于北京怀柔区，因形似弯弓得名，地势险峻且保留原始风貌，适合专业户外探险。‌‌‌‌

‌5) 司马台长城‌ SiMaTai：位于北京密云区，唯一保留明代原貌的长城段，以夜游体验和星空观景为特色。‌‌‌‌

‌6) 嘉峪关长城‌ JiaYuGuan：位于甘肃嘉峪关市，为明长城最西端关隘，有“天下第一雄关”之称，是丝绸之路交通要塞。‌‌‌‌

‌7) 山海关长城‌ ShanHaiGuan：位于河北秦皇岛，明长城东部起点，以“老龙头”（长城入海处）和“天下第一关”城楼闻名。‌‌‌‌

‌8) 黄崖关长城‌ HuangYaGuan：位于天津蓟州区，戚继光修建，以石刻碑文和春季山花为亮点。‌‌‌‌

‌9) 九门口长城‌ JiuMenKou：位于辽宁绥中县，唯一横跨水门的长城段，城水相映形成独特景观。‌‌‌‌

‌10) 虎山长城‌ HuShan：位于辽宁丹东市，为明长城最东端起点，毗邻鸭绿江。‌‌

I think begineer level whole stretch of well maintained badaling for the running folks here is best. Unless if the fella is running power based faster shorter distance and does quick intervals (like our bro kuudere here). That is a 4km dist and total elevation gain of a good few hundred metres.

If not go for more advanced later get sore quads and glutes (possibly calves too) and cannot enjoy. No joke it is possible to be sore for the next 3 days.

If got do intermediate cycling / stair climbing / hiking then can try other stretches.

Or maybe if you are well and often trained in hill sprints hill repeats, then possibly ok.
Key point is muscular power. Not flat course low resistance low resistance based activity.

Aerobic endurance can be "adjusted" one, just pace well based on bpm do your usual Z1 Z2 can liao, no issue at all. Heat shd not be an issue for Oct as well.
Like your running, if chuan then just walk lah. So if climbing you chuan, then just slow to a crawl. Non issue.
But you cannot do that with muscular based "power" + endurance focused as well.

 

[Jeremy1]

I think begineer level whole stretch of badaling for the running folks here is best. Unless if the fella is power based.

If not go for more advanced later get sore quads and glutes and cannot enjoy. No joke it is possible to be sore for the next 3 days.

If got do intermediate cycling / stair climbing / hiking then can try other stretches.

Thanks

 

[xllms]

I think begineer level badaling for the running folks here is best. Unless if the fella is power based.

If not go for more advanced later get sore quads and glutes and cannot enjoy. No joke it is possible to be sore for the next 3 days.

If got do intermediate cycling / stair climbing / hiking then can try other stretches.

agree in terms of sporting perspective. Simatai & JinShanLing 野长城 are too challenging. Even walking itself at some parts is challenging.

am more concerned about logistics for someone totally new to China system and moving around in BJ, especially if one meet any issues halfway.

 

[Mephist0pheLes]

switched to a proper jogging shoe yesterday instead of using the SAF one. 2.4km improved by 20s dunno is it placebo effect lol

 

[WussRedXLi]

OR put it this way, if cannot complete 4 rounds of Mount Faber and still feel decent (it's a tour after all, not training camp), better not try.

 

[WussRedXLi]

agree in terms of sporting perspective. Simatai & JinShanLing 野长城 are too challenging. Even walking itself at some parts is challenging.

am more concerned about logistics for someone totally new to China system and moving around in BJ, especially if one meet any issues halfway.

Yeah BDL best, just follow crowd or other overseas groups can liao. Well maintained, idiot proof, but definitely still can be a decent workout.

For normal people, i can 1000% for sure 3 days sore muscles one, absolutely no doubt about that. For older folks, it might be so painful that they can barely walk after that (DIY tour sure walk one what), shd they continue to push for the whole works and not DNF on BDL.

If schedule got time and feel good coz fit muscular zai , can try other parts as well on other days.

Oct 9 arrival i think if start the climb on a few days after arriaval shd be able to avoid the mad mad crowd.

 

[Ender]

switched to a proper jogging shoe yesterday instead of using the SAF one. 2.4km improved by 20s dunno is it placebo effect lol

It's money well spent.

 

[Ender]

Good question, I really don't know cause it's my first time.

Any suggestions ?

I am afraid it might be too dangerous to walk or jog.

1% out of 100%

It's holiday, enjoy yourself. Leave the training in Singapore where things are more predictable.

 

[WussRedXLi]

I remember some specific parts of BDL the gradient is already quite high. Might need to get low to "crawl" and use hands liao. Not advanced level of coz, a 60 yr old can do one lah.

Remember, it is not only climbing up. Coming down also a lot of hammering of the quads.......
Coming down like maciam trying to slowly lower yourself down for some of the steps.

 

[Ender]

14km easy yesterday. Appreciating the cushion on NB5 after back to back hard days(Intervals&Threshold).

This is my tempo or grey zones. Easy would be under 6:30min/km for me.

 

[WussRedXLi]

I dont know how the other 2 specific parts are IRL, but from the pics for Jiankou already......heh, even though i got "train".
Still, not specific to hiking, so i cannot say if i am strong or flexi/mobile enough. (aerobic capacity is ok of coz)

Again, can go up does not mean can come back down again. Or rather, just roll down lah.





Zhun boh

 

[WussRedXLi]

Havent started yet already passed VT / ventilatory threshold at MTY. (edit oh it is JSL)
Think (more like confirm) already majority Z2 power / HR.

 

[rarenick]

I like boa system coz very convenient to tighten or loosen the shoes. I found some DIY imitations that are very cheap on shopee. It is still using wires but the instructions given are to pass through the eyelets of the shoes. Is it reliable and will it damage my shoes? Or should I just get a new pair of shoes with boa instead?

 

[xllms]

@Jeremy1
if you want to "train" and sightsee at the same time, recommend you to do a run around 故宫 and take some nice pix of the place, esp at northeast tip and the main entrance
after the run, head north of 故宫 to 景山公园 and do a run up to the top of hill to catch the entire 故宫 from high ground.

XHS reference:
http://xhslink.com/a/4y9OToOxYnyfb
http://xhslink.com/a/jJxBls8sWoyfb

Another route is one round 故宫+around景山公园boundary and north entrance of 景山公园 head nirth towards 鼓楼 and head back.

XHS reference:
http://xhslink.com/a/YjF1a2NYHoyfb

you can use xhs and do simple search on BJ running routes 北京跑步路线

 

[sph777]

Finished my race. Got so lost in the swim, kayakers tapped me to say course is way over that way. Overall quite ok for first open water swim in 15 years. Felt my runs were good though I cramped up while sprinting last 50m. Got overall 11th