New 10Gbps/5Gbps/6Gbps/3Gbps XGS-PON based plans

[Henry Ng]

Recently, I got a X550-T2 from 10Gtek TB store for the 10G SH plan.

I updated the driver from 10Gtek (found in this thread) and it has been performing as expected; ~8000+ DL and ~7000+ UL respectively.

Doing some Speedtest over the weekend, I started to experienced inconsistency in DL. The DL could range from as low as 2000+ to 6000+, alternating every consecutive tests. The tests were done one after another. The performance is back to normal when I either restart the computer or start the Speedtest after few minutes, but the issue repeats again during the next consecutive tests. Windows 11 is up to date. But when I checked the X550 driver details in the Control Panel’s System tab, it indicated an outdated date, which I’m positive the the driver was installed correctly back then. The issue persisted despite I installed the new X550 driver from Intel and done a cable check by replacing and re-seating It.

When I repeat the test on my Mac with a 10G adapter, it doesn’t exhibit this. Hence, the issue is restricted to my Windows only. What is the possibly cause of It?

My OWG adaptor no issue at all. Driver issue with Windows.

 

[xiaofan]

Some info here for router bundle for 5Gbps/6Gbps/10Gbps plan. Users may need to be careful to check out the lower cost bundle plans.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-3gbps-5gbps-6gbps-10gbps-plan.7073159/page-5

Quick summary:
1) M1, MR and SIMBA are okay, not including cheaper bundle for 5Gbps/6Gbps/10Gbps plans.
2) Singtel users may be bundled with 1Gbps capable only wireless AP or mesh solution.
3) Starhub users may need to avoid getting TP-Link EX510 (S$96) which is only 1G capable, HB710 at S$192 is much better.
4) VQ may bundle lower end router for the 10Gbps plan, like Asus RT-BE58U, Asus ZenWiFi BD4 and Amazon eero Pro 6E.
5) WC may bundle Deco BE25 for the 10Gbps plan.

 

[The_King]

just checking, for 10 Gbps. what type/Brand of cable are you all using?

CAT 6A? or get the highest CAT 8? and what brand? ATZ? ugreen?


thanks

 

[froztheart]

just checking, for 10 Gbps. what type/Brand of cable are you all using?

CAT 6A? or get the highest CAT 8? and what brand? ATZ? ugreen?


thanks

CAT 6 works good enough/sufficient, no need to get any higher unless your needs are specific and able to leverage on CAT 7/8 cables.

 

[The_King]

CAT 6 works good enough/sufficient, no need to get any higher unless your needs are specific and able to leverage on CAT 7/8 cables.

Thanks, I see the price like not much different, so I though since I buying so wanted to check which is a better choice

What brand you buy?

 

[froztheart]

Thanks, I see the price like not much different, so I though since I buying so wanted to check which is a better choice

What brand you buy?

Not particular with brand, I got mine in SLT IIRC.

 

[froztheart]

Not particular with brand, I got mine in SLT IIRC.

And heads up that SLT not exactly cheap, so if you looking for cheap, go online as with most things.

 

[xiaofan]

VQ seems to come out with 3Gbps special offer from time to time. Previous it was on 12-12-2024. Now it is for Chinese New Year.

Pretty good VQ 3Gbps limited-time offer: effective price at (S$18.98 + S$40.98)/2 = S$29.98 per month.
With zero upfront fees (NLT charges and admin fees waived)
https://viewqwest.com/sg/residential/broadband/3gbps/

 

[HiHelloBye]

just checking, for 10 Gbps. what type/Brand of cable are you all using?

CAT 6A? or get the highest CAT 8? and what brand? ATZ? ugreen?


thanks

CAT-6 is already sufficient. need not to go beyond than CAT-6A.

i'm using Belden, bought custom length from LHS Electronics Enterprise at Sim Lim Tower...

 

[The_King]

CAT-6 is already sufficient. need not to go beyond than CAT-6A.

i'm using Belden, bought custom length from LHS Electronics Enterprise at Sim Lim Tower...

ok, thanks, i go there to buy custom length once my rack is ready so i can measure the lenght need for my super simple stack of network system

 

[Henry Ng]

VQ seems to come out with 3Gbps special offer from time to time. Previous it was on 12-12-2024. Now it is for Chinese New Year.

Pretty good VQ 3Gbps limited-time offer: effective price at (S$18.98 + S$40.98)/2 = S$29.98 per month.
With zero upfront fees (NLT charges and admin fees waived)
https://viewqwest.com/sg/residential/broadband/3gbps/

Like that SH is cheaper. 5Gbps at $29.55/mth.

 

[xiaofan]

Like that SH is cheaper. 5Gbps at $29.55/mth.

Some people may prefer VQ than SH. It is good to have more choices at the S$30 pricing point.

 

[Henry Ng]

Some people may prefer VQ than SH. It is good to have more choices at the S$30 pricing point.

Actually, SH has more services than VQ. SH is a bigger company.

 

[SNAG]

Some people may prefer VQ than SH. It is good to have more choices at the S$30 pricing point.

SH would still be very much preferred. VQ used to stand out for better customer support (you could email them for route optimisation etc) but network reliability has gone down the hill.

Also, VQ uses CGNAT, and you will need to pay extra for a static IP.

 

[xiaofan]

All in all, it is good to have more competitions with around S$30 (effective pricing) plans from the ISPs.

I will usually recommend Starhub and M1 if you read the first page of the Singapore ISP comparison thread. But I understand people may have good reasons to go with other plans.

1) Starhub 5Gbps offer at S$29.55 per month. Nokia XS-2426X-A ONR (AX6000 wireless) option with one extra free Nokia Beacon 2. Very good value for average users who do not want to pay anything extra on routers.

2) Starhub 5Gbps offer at S$29.55, ONT option without router. Very good value for those who do not want to use ONR but their own router.

3) M1 6Gbps offer with two-pack of ZenWiFi BT10 at S$59.90 per month. If you value the two-pack of BT10 at about S$720 or more, then the effective price is at S$29.90 for 6Gbps no-frills plan. Some users are able to sell the two units at about S$800 to lower the effective price at S$26.57 per month.

4) Singtel 3Gbps plan at S$29.90 per month for selected new customers only (Singtel mobile customers who want to switch to Singtel for Fibre Internet)

5) SIMBA 10Gbps plan at S$29.99 per 30 days.

6) WC 2.5Gbps plan at S$24 per month (very good for recontract users). New users need to pay NLT charge of S$61.04 and installation charge of S$54.50 and the effective price of S$28.81 per month.

7) WC 10Gbps plan at S$28.99 per month (very good for recontract users). New users need to pay installation charge of S$54.50 and the effective price of S$31.26 per month.

8) VQ limited time promotion of 3Gbps plan at S$29.98 per month (no frills plan).

Then we have legacy M1 500Mbps and Starhub 500Mbps plan at about S$30.45 per month for those users who stick to the two plans (no need to recontract to continue the same pricing).

 

[waddahell]

guys, can anyone guide me how to enter asus router web gui

I tried https://www.asusrouter.com:8443 and it doesnt work

 

[froztheart]

guys, can anyone guide me how to enter asus router web gui

I tried https://www.asusrouter.com:8443 and it doesnt work

It should direct you to your router unless you changed the port..
If it doesn't, try resetting if its a new setup.

 

[xiaofan]

All in all, it is good to have more competitions with around S$30 (effective pricing) plans from the ISPs.

I will usually recommend Starhub and M1 if you read the first page of the Singapore ISP comparison thread. But I understand people may have good reasons to go with other plans.

1) Starhub 5Gbps offer at S$29.55 per month. Nokia XS-2426X-A ONR (AX6000 wireless) option with one extra free Nokia Beacon 2. Very good value for average users who do not want to pay anything extra on routers.

2) Starhub 5Gbps offer at S$29.55, ONT option without router. Very good value for those who do not want to use ONR but their own router.

3) M1 6Gbps offer with two-pack of ZenWiFi BT10 at S$59.90 per month. If you value the two-pack of BT10 at about S$720 or more, then the effective price is at S$29.90 for 6Gbps no-frills plan. Some users are able to sell the two units at about S$800 to lower the effective price at S$26.57 per month.

4) Singtel 3Gbps plan at S$29.90 per month for selected new customers only (Singtel mobile customers who want to switch to Singtel for Fibre Internet)

5) SIMBA 10Gbps plan at S$29.99 per 30 days.

6) WC 2.5Gbps plan at S$24 per month (very good for recontract users). New users need to pay NLT charge of S$61.04 and installation charge of S$54.50 and the effective price of S$28.81 per month.

7) WC 10Gbps plan at S$28.99 per month (very good for recontract users). New users need to pay installation charge of S$54.50 and the effective price of S$31.26 per month.

8) VQ limited time promotion of 3Gbps plan at S$29.98 per month (no frills plan).

Then we have legacy M1 500Mbps and Starhub 500Mbps plan at about S$30.45 per month for those users who stick to the two plans (no need to recontract to continue the same pricing).

Update on 22 Jan 2025.

1) Starhub 5Gbps special offers

S$29.55 per month with ONT got no router.
S$30.37 per month with ONT got free TP-Link EX510.

S$29.55 per month with ONR got the ONR plus one Nokia Beacon 2.
S$30.37 per month with ONR got the ONR plus two Nokia Beacon 2.

S$29.55 per month offer is technically for new users. Existing users need to sign up as new user and cancel the old plan upon installation of the new 5Gbps plan.
S$30.37 per month offer seems to be for recontract (may need to negotiate with Starhub to get this offer).

2) Superb M1 6Gbps recontract offer --> S$15 OFF for M1 6Gbps (probably limited time offer)

S$32.90 per month with free TP-Link Archer BE805 (roughly S$360 BNIB at Carousell)
S$44.90 per month with free Asus ZenWiFi BT10 twin-pack (roughly S$800 BNIB at Carousell)

Effective pricing is lower than the above Starhub 5Gbps offer, even if you sell the bundled router cheaper than the market prevailing price to have a quick deal, say S$300 for Archer BE805 or S$720 for BT10 twin-pack.

Effective price to sell Archer BE805 at S$300 --> S$20.40 per month for 6Gbps no-frills plan
Effective price to sell ZenWiFi BT10 twin-pack at S$720 --> S$14.90 per month for 6Gbps no-frills plan.

 

[newsera]

hi xiaofan@
how to get the offer - M1 6Gbps recontract offer --> S$15 OFF for M1 6Gbps as i am eligible for recontract? I noticed this message - "Note: If you plan to move your address by June 2025, we recommend signing up for our 1Gbps or 2.5Gbps plans." Since both addresses (I verified the coverage) support the higher speeds, would there be any challenges? I am thinking if I should recontract now if I get the S$15 OFF or wait till May, relocate and recontract from the new address.

 

[xiaofan]

hi xiaofan@
how to get the offer - M1 6Gbps recontract offer --> S$15 OFF for M1 6Gbps as i am eligible for recontract? I noticed this message - "Note: If you plan to move your address by June 2025, we recommend signing up for our 1Gbps or 2.5Gbps plans." Since both addresses (I verified the coverage) support the higher speeds, would there be any challenges? I am thinking if I should recontract now if I get the S$15 OFF or wait till May, relocate and recontract from the new address.

I am not an M1 user so please check in the M1 thread. Thanks.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/m1-fibre-broadband-discussion-part-2.5658375/page-705