Opennet installion - share experience please

[silverstone]

When you talk about test reading loss, do note that there are a variety of factors that will affect the reading value. An absolute value comparison is meaningless.

What we are more interested to know is to see if this loss is too far off from the expected loss (hypothetical value).

A typical equation look like this.

Expected Loss = ( 0.3 db x no. of termination ) <coupler loss> + ( 0.05 db x no. of splice ) <Splicing loss> + ( 0.4 db/km x cable length ) <attenuation loss>

So for Silverstone, there isn't much to worry. All I can say is when you activate the service, the RSP guy will still do a check and make sure the signal is good.

alright, noted.

 

[Chys]

Redhill Area, just installed... cleaning up took an 2hrs $#^%&$&

1310nm: 0.66
1490nm: 0.54
1550nm: 0.45

 

[divinepotato]

It's my area's turn now and I've booked an appointment with OpenNet to wire up my home. But I have a major headache:

I'm on a landed property. My TV is in the living room on the ground floor and my PC is on the 2nd floor in the study room. I want both the TV and PC to be wired up. I do not have any ethernet wirings between the living room and the study room. Can they put 2 termination points in the house, one each on the ground floor and 2nd floor? Also, how would they put the trunking all the way to the 2nd floor? Seems like it would be a logistical mess?

Any ideas?

 

[elpibe10]

Any ideas?

My problem was similar to yours as my primary cluster of PCs are all on the 3rd storey (over 10 of them - refer to my website link in sig for details).

What I did was to lay 3 x Cat 6 cables (1 for redundancy) via the exterior of my house (from the 3rd storey living room to the 1st storey living room).

Both Fibre ONTs in the 1st storey living room, routers in the 3rd storey living room. LAN wires to every PC on that level.

No harm thinking 'out of the box'.

 

[divinepotato]

Thanks! How did you route the cables from the exterior wall into the living rooms? Drill through walls? If so, any water seepage issues from the external walls?

 

[elpibe10]

Thanks! How did you route the cables from the exterior wall into the living rooms? Drill through walls? If so, any water seepage issues from the external walls?

Mine happen to have covered balcony outside 3rd storey living room and patio outside 1st storey living room so no worries about water seepage.

If not, just make sure you drill at an angle (i.e. angled down towards outside) as water doesn't travel against gravity (into the interior of the house).

 

[ideatalk]

It's my area's turn now and I've booked an appointment with OpenNet to wire up my home. But I have a major headache:

I'm on a landed property. My TV is in the living room on the ground floor and my PC is on the 2nd floor in the study room. I want both the TV and PC to be wired up. I do not have any ethernet wirings between the living room and the study room. Can they put 2 termination points in the house, one each on the ground floor and 2nd floor? Also, how would they put the trunking all the way to the 2nd floor? Seems like it would be a logistical mess?

Any ideas?

tp, ont n router on 2nd floor then run cable for tv at 1st floor n pc on 3rd floor, possible?

 

[hawthorne]

tp, ont n router on 2nd floor then run cable for tv at 1st floor n pc on 3rd floor, possible?

y u dun want to run ethernet cable up? I think opennet will have to assess if they can make use of existing cable risers in your house, or else run the cables on the house exterior walls to the 2nd storey.

 

[ideatalk]

now is the time to find out if opennet has improved after all the action they take.......................the sign up at this week IT show will stretch their resources

 

[worcer]

My installation i just schedule in 2 weeks time. Didnt know it was coming to my area until i was checking for upgrades to fibre. So lucky loh.If after the time period will have to pay $220-$450! Tried to book the ISP also.But they say must wait for opennet to check and confirm after the installation then i can sign up for fibre. Is that true? I have to wait another few weeks for opennet to test then i can use fibre? WTF?! I tired of Singnet lousy service liao leh. Cant wait to get rid of the slow internet service!

 

[Mach3.2]

My installation i just schedule in 2 weeks time. Didnt know it was coming to my area until i was checking for upgrades to fibre. So lucky loh.If after the time period will have to pay $220-$450! Tried to book the ISP also.But they say must wait for opennet to check and confirm after the installation then i can sign up for fibre. Is that true? I have to wait another few weeks for opennet to test then i can use fibre? WTF?! I tired of Singnet lousy service liao leh. Cant wait to get rid of the slow internet service!

Is true, have to wait about a month after opennet finish installing *** in your area.

 

[ideatalk]

My installation i just schedule in 2 weeks time. Didnt know it was coming to my area until i was checking for upgrades to fibre. So lucky loh.If after the time period will have to pay $220-$450! Tried to book the ISP also.But they say must wait for opennet to check and confirm after the installation then i can sign up for fibre. Is that true? I have to wait another few weeks for opennet to test then i can use fibre? WTF?! I tired of Singnet lousy service liao leh. Cant wait to get rid of the slow internet service!

lucky u manage to get 2 week schedule............lets see hows the situation after this weeks IT show......

 

[chengsun]

I almost forgot to make appointment! Only logged in the website to book appointment 1 hour before the deadline, and latest available is 5th April. My reno can only start maybe late this week or early next week. My contractor said may not be able to finish necessary job for Opennet to do their jo. I a bit LL, if really cannot then I have to pay for a later date.

Now headache is where to place the FTP. I am going to LAN-networked the house, and will custom-make the false wall and TV console for the TV wall. I want the LAN to serve a cheap NAS for now, and maybe in the future I will build a home server for more purposes. So, I want to have something that can allow me to do more in future without much addon. Need some advices here.

1. This is the simplest, everything in living room on TV wall maybe. Then I will just ask contractor to hide them behind false wall, and keep them in 1 of the TV console drawer.
Cons:
i. it will be difficult for to reach the FTP, if necessary to troubleshoot.
ii. the intended drawer is much shallow than the rest because of a big pillar at one end of the wall. It should fit ONT, RG, a NAS, but definitely cannot fit a normal ITX casing should I want a home server in the future.

2. Also simple, no need to hide in storeroom, easy to access as well. But, I cannot put Wireless RT in storeroom, so the connection will be something like FTP-->ONT-->RT(in storeroom as main router)---------> GB swith(in living room) -->AP(living room). Is this connection achievable?

3. I am leaning towards this one, however not sure about the if this connection works or not. FTP(storeroom)-->ONT(storeroom)------>Wireless RT(living room)

For 2 & 3, I can just put in a GB switch in storeroom in future and keep my home server inside there.

Any advice? Did I miss out anything?

 

[chengsun]

any advice?

 

[Mach3.2]

I almost forgot to make appointment! Only logged in the website to book appointment 1 hour before the deadline, and latest available is 5th April. My reno can only start maybe late this week or early next week. My contractor said may not be able to finish necessary job for Opennet to do their jo. I a bit LL, if really cannot then I have to pay for a later date.

Now headache is where to place the FTP. I am going to LAN-networked the house, and will custom-make the false wall and TV console for the TV wall. I want the LAN to serve a cheap NAS for now, and maybe in the future I will build a home server for more purposes. So, I want to have something that can allow me to do more in future without much addon. Need some advices here.

1. This is the simplest, everything in living room on TV wall maybe. Then I will just ask contractor to hide them behind false wall, and keep them in 1 of the TV console drawer.
Cons:
i. it will be difficult for to reach the FTP, if necessary to troubleshoot.
ii. the intended drawer is much shallow than the rest because of a big pillar at one end of the wall. It should fit ONT, RG, a NAS, but definitely cannot fit a normal ITX casing should I want a home server in the future.

2. Also simple, no need to hide in storeroom, easy to access as well. But, I cannot put Wireless RT in storeroom, so the connection will be something like FTP-->ONT-->RT(in storeroom as main router)---------> GB swith(in living room) -->AP(living room). Is this connection achievable?

3. I am leaning towards this one, however not sure about the if this connection works or not. FTP(storeroom)-->ONT(storeroom)------>Wireless RT(living room)

For 2 & 3, I can just put in a GB switch in storeroom in future and keep my home server inside there.

Any advice? Did I miss out anything?

Is your so called "storeroom" a SCDF bomb shelter?
If so, can scrape your idea of installing TP in there.
It's against the law to drill holes into the bomb shelter, or drill holes on the bomb shelter wall.

Now to actual point:
In my opinion
Install patch panel and FTP in living room if the "storeroom" is a SCDF bomb shelter.

Install in "storeroom" to hide the equipments if the "storeroom" is NOT a SCDF bomb shelter.

 

[chengsun]

Is your so called "storeroom" a SCDF bomb shelter?
If so, can scrape your idea of installing TP in there.
It's against the law to drill holes into the bomb shelter, or drill holes on the bomb shelter wall.

Now to actual point:
In my opinion
Install patch panel and FTP in living room if the "storeroom" is a SCDF bomb shelter.

Install in "storeroom" to hide the equipments if the "storeroom" is NOT a SCDF bomb shelter.

On the official floorplan drawn from HDB, it is written as "STORE". I suppose it is storeroom, right?

 

[Redberries]

It's my area's turn now and I've booked an appointment with OpenNet to wire up my home. But I have a major headache:

I'm on a landed property. My TV is in the living room on the ground floor and my PC is on the 2nd floor in the study room. I want both the TV and PC to be wired up. I do not have any ethernet wirings between the living room and the study room. Can they put 2 termination points in the house, one each on the ground floor and 2nd floor? Also, how would they put the trunking all the way to the 2nd floor? Seems like it would be a logistical mess?

Any ideas?

don't even mention landed, me HDB got problem also. Point is installed at living room. Computer in room. At the point of installation is impossible to ask them to install in room..imagine the trunking..so ugly. Impossible!!
zzz

guess the only way is go wireless..

 

[hawthorne]

Is your so called "storeroom" a SCDF bomb shelter?
If so, can scrape your idea of installing TP in there.
It's against the law to drill holes into the bomb shelter, or drill holes on the bomb shelter wall.

Now to actual point:
In my opinion
Install patch panel and FTP in living room if the "storeroom" is a SCDF bomb shelter.

Install in "storeroom" to hide the equipments if the "storeroom" is NOT a SCDF bomb shelter.

Actually you can drill into the walls of the bomb shelter, however, the screws cannot exceed 50mm deep and must be able to remove 48hrs upon activation SCDF. Read Singapore Civil Defence Force - Permitted Works for Household Shelters for more info

Hence, patch panel might be possible to install in bomb shelter, but probably not the FTP, as it is not designed to be removable.

With such, first thing I thought was that you could install a patch panel in your bomb shelter. your FTP could be installed elsewhere with a RJ45 jack. As such, you would put your ONT and RG at this location and use a patch cord to connect your RG to this RJ45 jack. Hence, with a switch connected to your patch panel in your bomb shelter, you have effectively enabled internet connection to all other RJ45 jacks in the house

Alternatively, if you don't mind spending more, prelay and terminate another fibre from your proposed FTP location and pull it into the bomb shelter and terminate there. In this way, you can then patch the FTP all the way into the bomb shelter. Then you can put your ONT and RG in your bomb shelter. But one word of caution: The ONT and RG can run quite hot, hence, be sure to allow adaquent ventination.

However, the problem now is that can your electrician pull cat6 cables into your bomb shelter? Not sure if he can use the existing concealed trunkings or is he allowed to pull it via one of the 2 ventilation holes.

 

[chengsun]

Actually you can drill into the walls of the bomb shelter, however, the screws cannot exceed 50mm deep and must be able to remove 48hrs upon activation SCDF. Read Singapore Civil Defence Force - Permitted Works for Household Shelters for more info

Hence, patch panel might be possible to install in bomb shelter, but probably not the FTP, as it is not designed to be removable.

With such, first thing I thought was that you could install a patch panel in your bomb shelter. your FTP could be installed elsewhere with a RJ45 jack. As such, you would put your ONT and RG at this location and use a patch cord to connect your RG to this RJ45 jack. Hence, with a switch connected to your patch panel in your bomb shelter, you have effectively enabled internet connection to all other RJ45 jacks in the house

Alternatively, if you don't mind spending more, prelay and terminate another fibre from your proposed FTP location and pull it into the bomb shelter and terminate there. In this way, you can then patch the FTP all the way into the bomb shelter. Then you can put your ONT and RG in your bomb shelter. But one word of caution: The ONT and RG can run quite hot, hence, be sure to allow adaquent ventination.

However, the problem now is that can your electrician pull cat6 cables into your bomb shelter? Not sure if he can use the existing concealed trunkings or is he allowed to pull it via one of the 2 ventilation holes.

on the floorplan, it writes "STORE", so is it storeroom or bomb shelter?
I prefer to have FTP in storeroom for easier access if necessary, because if it is in living room, it will be covered by false wall and TV console.

 

[Mach3.2]

Actually you can drill into the walls of the bomb shelter, however, the screws cannot exceed 50mm deep and must be able to remove 48hrs upon activation SCDF. Read Singapore Civil Defence Force - Permitted Works for Household Shelters for more info

Hence, patch panel might be possible to install in bomb shelter, but probably not the FTP, as it is not designed to be removable.

With such, first thing I thought was that you could install a patch panel in your bomb shelter. your FTP could be installed elsewhere with a RJ45 jack. As such, you would put your ONT and RG at this location and use a patch cord to connect your RG to this RJ45 jack. Hence, with a switch connected to your patch panel in your bomb shelter, you have effectively enabled internet connection to all other RJ45 jacks in the house

Alternatively, if you don't mind spending more, prelay and terminate another fibre from your proposed FTP location and pull it into the bomb shelter and terminate there. In this way, you can then patch the FTP all the way into the bomb shelter. Then you can put your ONT and RG in your bomb shelter. But one word of caution: The ONT and RG can run quite hot, hence, be sure to allow adaquent ventination.

However, the problem now is that can your electrician pull cat6 cables into your bomb shelter? Not sure if he can use the existing concealed trunkings or is he allowed to pull it via one of the 2 ventilation holes.

I see, i see..

But installing both FTP and patch panel at different places makes no sense.