POCO F5 series

[caterham7]

At what price point is f5 a good deal?
Think I missed the f4 at 200+ boat liao.

Or any other alternative?
Buying for elderly mom but basic use.
So entry level is enough. Or lower mid tier.
Thanks

entry level, can consider samsung a15, $178 street price
https://redwhitemobile.com/phone/samsung-a15-4-128gb/
g99 cpu, similar specs to poco m5, which seems to have disappeared from poco shopee or poco lazada

 

[SecretAgent]

i got my F3 around $400 about 2 yrs back.

now volume - button abit shott shott liao...

waiting for the price of F5 or pro to come down to that $400 ish again

 

[tian_yibang]

At what price point is f5 a good deal?
Think I missed the f4 at 200+ boat liao.

Or any other alternative?
Buying for elderly mom but basic use.
So entry level is enough. Or lower mid tier.
Thanks

I read very scary reviews on the m3 thread.
X seems viable
But if 200+ can get f4, why pay the same for x?

hmm, maybe wait after F6 is launched, then hope F5 to reduce price to $200+

Wah

need to wait for "quite a while" for F5 to hit $200s mark wor

F4 iirc 6 mths after F5 series launched then reach $200 level

If chiu no urgent and can afford wait

then just wait it out lo

 

[rarenick]

Wah
need to wait for "quite a while" for F5 to hit $200s mark wor
F4 iirc 6 mths after F5 series launched then reach $200 level
If chiu no urgent and can afford wait
then just wait it out lo

Is it worth waiting? It becomes cheaper because the os and security support lifespan also depreciates.


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[xiaofan]

Is it worth waiting? It becomes cheaper because the os and security support lifespan also depreciates.

There are also other trade-offs like the storage option.

Last time, between S$270 Poco F4 6GB/128GB (SD870) and S$385 Poco X4 GT 8GB/256GB (Dimensity 8100), I chose to buy Poco X4 GT.

 

[xiaofan]

It seems to me Xiaomi is kind of raising the phone price slowly, even for the Redmi and Poco series.

To me around S$400 is a good option to go with and that is the budget I set for my purchase of mid-range Android phones (with 5G, NFC, >=8GB RAM, >=256GB Storage). I am not that paticular with the cameras, so Poco phones are a good choice now (previously I was more into Realme).

Then if it is okay to have some trade-offs, probably S$300 can still get a good mid-range phone.

Reference: discussions on mid-range phones.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/mid-range-android-mobile-phone-and-chipset.6817761/

 

[chaiscool]

It seems to me Xiaomi is kind of raising the phone price slowly, even for the Redmi and Poco series.

To me around S$400 is a good option to go with and that is the budget I set for my purchase of mid-range Android phones (with 5G, NFC, >=8GB RAM, >=256GB Storage). I am not that paticular with the cameras, so Poco phones are a good choice now (previously I was more into Realme).

Then if it is okay to have some trade-offs, probably S$300 can still get a good mid-range phone.

Reference: discussions on mid-range phones.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/mid-range-android-mobile-phone-and-chipset.6817761/

Would still prefer if mid range the likes of poco etc will focus at least 1 line of phone for camera. Don't need updated cpu to simply watch yt.

 

[rarenick]

It seems to me Xiaomi is kind of raising the phone price slowly, even for the Redmi and Poco series.
To me around S$400 is a good option to go with and that is the budget I set for my purchase of mid-range Android phones (with 5G, NFC, >=8GB RAM, >=256GB Storage). I am not that paticular with the cameras, so Poco phones are a good choice now (previously I was more into Realme).
Then if it is okay to have some trade-offs, probably S$300 can still get a good mid-range phone.
Reference: discussions on mid-range phones.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/mid-range-android-mobile-phone-and-chipset.6817761/

If they raise too much I will abandon ship liao and move to their present competitors.


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[xiaofan]

Would still prefer if mid range the likes of poco etc will focus at least 1 line of phone for camera. Don't need updated cpu to simply watch yt.

Right now mid-range Android phones with focus on the cameras will tend to have higher prices like S$600 and above, like Oppo Reno series, Vivo V series, etc.

Probably old version of Google Pixel phones (6a/7a) and Samsung Galaxy A54 (and up-coming A55) are better options if one want to have mid-range Android phones with better camera than Poco/Redmi.

 

[xiaofan]

If they raise too much I will abandon ship liao and move to their present competitors.

If you talk about local versions with warranty, I think the general trend of mid-range phone price is going higher, at least for year 2023/2024.

That being said, I am not good at finding lobangs. If you can find good lobangs, then the above observation may not apply.

If you are willing to buy China version of Android phones, then the above observation may not apply as well. I only buy local versions myself.

 

[chaiscool]

Right now mid-range Android phones with focus on the cameras will tend to have higher prices like S$600 and above, like Oppo Reno series, Vivo V series, etc.

Probably old version of Google Pixel phones (6a/7a) and Samsung Galaxy A54 (and up-coming A55) are better options if one want to have mid-range Android phones with better camera than Poco/Redmi.

Don't understand why though, surely camera modules aren't worth $200+(iirc poco f5 still uses the same camera as F3 too). Or is it lack of demand, ppl prefer high end cpu than camera?

Imo most ppl will benefit more from better camera.

 

[xiaofan]

Don't understand why though, surely camera modules aren't worth $200+(iirc poco f5 still uses the same camera as F3 too). Or is it lack of demand, ppl prefer high end cpu than camera?

Imo most ppl will benefit more from better camera.

Xiaomi wants the users who want good camera to go with Xiaomi series and not Poco series.

That being said, different people have different perception of an acceptable camera. For me my Poco X4 GT is acceptable.

My main phones since 2015.
iPhone 6S --> Huawei P20 --> Realme X50 5G --> Poco X4 GT.

Poco F3 Camera -- 48MP Sony IMX 582 main camera sensor.

MAIN CAMERA Triple 48 MP, f/1.8, 26mm (wide), 1/2.0", 0.8µm, PDAF
8 MP, f/2.2, 119˚ (ultrawide)
5 MP, f/2.4, 50mm (macro), 1/5.0", 1.12µm, AF
Features LED flash, HDR, panorama
Video 4K@30fps, 1080p@30/60/120/240/960fps, gyro-EIS

SELFIE CAMERA Single 20 MP, f/2.5, (wide), 1/3.4", 0.8µm
Features HDR
Video 1080p@30/60fps, 720p@120fps

Poco F4 Camera -- 64MP OmniVision OV64B40 main camera sensor.

MAIN CAMERA Triple 64 MP, f/1.8, (wide) 1/2.0", 0.7µm, PDAF, OIS
8 MP, f/2.2, 119˚ (ultrawide), 1/4.0", 1.12µm
2 MP, f/2.4, (macro)
Features LED flash, HDR, panorama
Video 4K@30/60fps, 1080p@30/60fps

SELFIE CAMERA Single 20 MP, f/2.5, (wide), 1/3.06", 1.0µm
Video 1080p@30fps

Poco X4 GT camera -- 64MP Samsung ISOCELL GW1 main camera sensor.

MAIN CAMERA Triple 64 MP, f/1.9 (wide), 1/1.72", 0.8µm, PDAF
8 MP, f/2.2, 120˚, (ultrawide), 1/4.0", 1.12µm
2 MP, f/2.4, (macro)
Features LED flash, HDR, panorama
Video 4K@30fps, 1080p@30/60fps

SELFIE CAMERA Single 16 MP, f/2.5, (wide)
Video 1080p@30fps

Poco X5 Pro Camera, 108MP Samsung ISOCELL HM2 main camera sensor.

MAIN CAMERA Triple 108 MP, f/1.9, (wide), 1/1.52", 0.7µm, PDAF
8 MP, f/2.2, 120˚ (ultrawide), 1/4.0", 1.12µm
2 MP, f/2.4, (macro)
Features LED flash, HDR, panorama
Video 4K@30fps, 1080p@30/60/120fps, gyro-EIS

SELFIE CAMERA Single 16 MP, f/2.4, (wide), 1/3.06" 1.0µm
Features HDR, panorama
Video 1080p@30/60fps

Poco F5 Camera -- 64MP OmniVision OV64B40 main camera sensor.

MAIN CAMERA Triple 64 MP, f/1.8, (wide), 1/2.0", 0.7µm, PDAF, OIS
8 MP, f/2.2, 120˚ (ultrawide), 1/4.0", 1.12µm
2 MP, f/2.4, (macro)
Features LED flash, HDR, panorama
Video 4K@30fps, 1080p@30/60/120fps, gyro-EIS

SELFIE CAMERA Single 16 MP, f/2.5, (wide)
Video 1080p@30/60fps

Poco X6 Pro Camera -- 64MP OmniVision OV64B main camera sensor.

MAIN CAMERA Triple 64 MP, f/1.7, 25mm (wide), 0.7µm, PDAF, OIS
8 MP, f/2.2, 120˚ (ultrawide)
2 MP, f/2.4, (macro)
Features LED flash, HDR, panorama
Video 4K@24/30fps, 1080p@30/60fps, gyro-EIS

SELFIE CAMERA Single 16 MP, f/2.4, (wide), 1/3.06", 1.0µm
Features HDR, panorama
Video 1080p@30/60fps

Redmi Note 13 Pro+ -- 200MP Samsung ISOCELL HP3 main camera sensor, this seems to have the higher spec main camera than the other three

MAIN CAMERA Triple 200 MP, f/1.7, 23mm (wide), 1/1.4", 0.56µm, multi-directional PDAF, OIS
8 MP, f/2.2, 120˚ (ultrawide)
2 MP, f/2.4, (macro)
Features Dual-LED dual-tone flash, HDR, panorama
Video 4K@24/30fps, 1080p@30/60/120fps, gyro-EIS

SELFIE CAMERA Single 16 MP, f/2.4, (wide)
Features HDR, panorama
Video 1080p@30/60fps

 

[chaiscool]

Xiaomi wants the users who want good camera to go with Xiaomi series and not Poco series.

That price gap though sheesh, at least make it competitive haha

 

[xiaofan]

That price gap though sheesh, at least make it competitive haha

Indeed.

For me since my budget for Android phone is only S$400, no need to look at Xiaomi series already. I prefer Poco than Redmi myself.

Realme used to offer a good alternative to Poco in Singapore but now they have only a few offerings after the closing of Poco Official Global Store. But then even Poco has less offerings in Singapore market now compared to previously.

 

[chaiscool]

Indeed.

For me since my budget for Android phone is only S$400, no need to look at Xiaomi series already. I prefer Poco than Redmi myself.

Realme used to offer a good alternative to Poco in Singapore but now they have only a few offerings after the closing of Poco Official Global Store. But then even Poco has less offerings in Singapore market now compared to previously.

Yeah moi don't understand why they keep pushing for better cpu (don't need much for YT) for that $400 price tier and keep reusing same camera for like 3 iterations. Surely camera modules cannot be that expensive right?

 

[rarenick]

Yeah moi don't understand why they keep pushing for better cpu (don't need much for YT) for that $400 price tier and keep reusing same camera for like 3 iterations. Surely camera modules cannot be that expensive right?

But coming from Samsung camp, I am very impressed by sd7+ gen2 with 5000mah. I am ok to forego the mediocre camera to stay with low selling price.


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[chaiscool]

But coming from Samsung camp, I am very impressed by sd7+ gen2 with 5000mah. I am ok to forego the mediocre camera to stay with low selling price.


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Idk both sd7+ gen2 and older chip like sd870 perform the same when watching YT. Prefer better camera.

 

[human_shieldz]

Idk both sd7+ gen2 and older chip like sd870 perform the same when watching YT. Prefer better camera.

Better camera also need better SoC for better processing and i think newer SoC has better technology for that but i think Poco also cripple some of the function cos the SD7+ Gen 2 can take 4k60fps video but they disable it.

 

[PES1989]

Idk both sd7+ gen2 and older chip like sd870 perform the same when watching YT. Prefer better camera.

There's no way they gonna put flagship or better camera and sell it cheaply. If not no one is gonna buy their flagship models every year. It's all about profit.

 

[chaiscool]

There's no way they gonna put flagship or better camera and sell it cheaply. If not no one is gonna buy their flagship models every year. It's all about profit.

Not asking for flagship lah but just better than 3 iteration of the same camera which imo is not asking for much.

The gap between better than 3 year old camera and flagship is very big, surely got middle ground.